State Dept Official Caught on Tape: **** the EU

[zinfamous]

I never said that and you're putting words into my mouth. Read my post again.

:hmm:

here is what you are talking about wrg to "sovereignty."

How many of the citizens themselves supported them? It's a violation of sovereignty.

So, are you going to tell me that more than half of the citizens of each member state were not fans of the EU, as well as those that are currently lobbying to join?

What about the Ukranians? Are they currently violating their own sovereignty by rebelling against their Soviet puppet of a president to try and force a move towards the EU?

 

[Incorruptible]

:hmm:

here is what you are talking about wrg to "sovereignty."



So, are you going to tell me that more than half of the citizens of each member state were not fans of the EU, as well as those that are currently lobbying to join?

What about the Ukranians? Are they currently violating their own sovereignty by rebelling against their Soviet puppet of a president to try and force a move towards the EU?

There are many who are against the EU and the sovereignty of the countries are being violated.

 

[zinfamous]

There are many who are against the EU and the sovereignty of the countries are being violated.

Oh?

show me. You are supposed to show me that half of all EU citizens are against the EU. you are also required to provide a more lucid description of what you believe sovereignty to mean.

Until then, your cup runneth over with horseshit.

 

[Incorruptible]

Oh?

show me. You are supposed to show me that half of all EU citizens are against the EU. you are also required to provide a more lucid description of what you believe sovereignty to mean.

Until then, your cup runneth over with horseshit.

NO. When did I ever say half of them are against the EU?

 

[Victorian Gray]

LOL Works for me. It would no longer be news at least. And let's not forget these are the nations most of our ancestors risked their lives to leave.

Like the 'Pilgrim Fathers' who 'escaped' from social and religious freedom in the Netherlands?

Or the criminals, debtors, slaves and indentured servants who had no choice?

There are things to celebrate about the founding of America but a history that has become more than a little propagandized isn't one of them.

 

[blankslate]

While the Left would be screaming "hang the fucker!" Right?

Party hypocrisy is reaching an all-time high, it's becoming nauseating.

The proper reaction for this regardless of which party is in the White House is...

 

[MagickMan]

The proper reaction for this regardless of which party is in the White House is...

I didn't specify a party, because both are guilty of an escalating level of hypocritical BS.

 

[rudeguy]

Oh?

show me. You are supposed to show me that half of all EU citizens are against the EU. you are also required to provide a more lucid description of what you believe sovereignty to mean.

Until then, your cup runneth over with horseshit.

Do you have a stuffed animal? Maybe a pickle? A used dryer sheet?

Any of those things will give you more intelligent debate than that guy.

 

[Pens1566]

Why should I bother wasting time on you after I kicked your ass.

Happened nowhere, ever.

 

[rudeguy]

I didn't specify a party, because both are guilty of an escalating level of hypocritical BS.

It's so stupid and I'm sorry that I was once part of it.

 

[Incorruptible]

Happened nowhere, ever.

Whatever makes you feel better.

 

[werepossum]

is "leave" a euphemism for escaping debtors prison and criminal prosecution?



and as for the pilgrims....they didn't leave. They simply weren't wanted. by anyone. EVEN THE DUTCH HATED THEM, FFS!

??? Of course they left. They had to pay money for transport to the New World, often even placing themselves into indentured servitude to pay for passage.

Like the 'Pilgrim Fathers' who 'escaped' from social and religious freedom in the Netherlands?

Or the criminals, debtors, slaves and indentured servants who had no choice?

There are things to celebrate about the founding of America but a history that has become more than a little propagandized isn't one of them.

Well, it looks a bit different to those of you in the Great North. You guys were the ones who found the King's boot on your neck to be cozy and comforting.