State Department submits Arizona immigration law to UN for a human rights review.

[xj0hnx]

What's "it", you retard? Most people prefer not to live near recent immigrants, whether they are illegals or not. I was responding Hendrix who asked why this whole issue became a big issue when Obama was in office. I explained it's because of the downturn in the economy. Any questions?

Who is "most", dummy? You speaking for America? Don't you sound pathetic. It, in case you aren't bright enough to follow issues, is Illegal immigration, not immigration.

 

[classy]

LOL

This ia requirement of every nation in the UN to comply with human rights. We are front runners in this area and in order to keep that leverage we also have to show we are not engaged in the violation of human rights. No matter what president is in office we would be releasing the same report. The arizona fiasco was global news and we came under fire because of it. So mentioning how we adjusted things concerning this law, shows we actually do uphold human rights. This is not about illegals persay, but more or less a way to show we are a just nation. All these ridiculous posts are complete nonsense.

 

[Infohawk]

Who is "most", dummy? You speaking for America? Don't you sound pathetic. It, in case you aren't bright enough to follow issues, is Illegal immigration, not immigration.

You are obstinate in your stupidity, aren't you? Are you saying people can't talk about general immigration in P&N right now?

 

[Infohawk]

Immigrants != illegal immigrants.

Didn't say they were.

 

[xj0hnx]

You are obstinate in your stupidity, aren't you? Are you saying people can't talk about general immigration in P&N right now?

No dipshit, I said YOU don't speak for everyone, don't be so dense.

illegal immigrant =/= immigrant.

You sound just like MSNBC and their blurring between immigration, and illegal immigration.

 

[Trell]

LOL

This ia requirement of every nation in the UN to comply with human rights. We are front runners in this area and in order to keep that leverage we also have to show we are not engaged in the violation of human rights. No matter what president is in office we would be releasing the same report. The arizona fiasco was global news and we came under fire because of it. So mentioning how we adjusted things concerning this law, shows we actually do uphold human rights. This is not about illegals persay, but more or less a way to show we are a just nation. All these ridiculous posts are complete nonsense.

You are 100% correct.

 

[Infohawk]

No dipshit, I said YOU don't speak for everyone, don't be so dense.

illegal immigrant =/= immigrant.

You sound just like MSNBC and their blurring between immigration, and illegal immigration.

The problem is you are so dumb I'm not even sure you be shown what your mistake is.

I didn't say I speak for everyone and I'm not trying to blur the line between anything. I was responding to a certain post by Hendrix and that specific statement didn't require the distinction. Not everything is black and white, but keep bleating about the evil MSNBC. Makes you look smart.

 

[OutHouse]

LOL

This ia requirement of every nation in the UN to comply with human rights. We are front runners in this area and in order to keep that leverage we also have to show we are not engaged in the violation of human rights. No matter what president is in office we would be releasing the same report. The arizona fiasco was global news and we came under fire because of it. So mentioning how we adjusted things concerning this law, shows we actually do uphold human rights. This is not about illegals persay, but more or less a way to show we are a just nation. All these ridiculous posts are complete nonsense.

your post is nonsense. there are MANY nations in the UN who violate human rights on levels that are unspeakable. We dont have to prove shit to the UN the whole world knows we as a nation do not violate human rights and the law in AZ isnt even close in doing so.

 

[EagleKeeper]

LOL

This ia requirement of every nation in the UN to comply with human rights. We are front runners in this area and in order to keep that leverage we also have to show we are not engaged in the violation of human rights. No matter what president is in office we would be releasing the same report. The arizona fiasco was global news and we came under fire because of it. So mentioning how we adjusted things concerning this law, shows we actually do uphold human rights. This is not about illegals persay, but more or less a way to show we are a just nation. All these ridiculous posts are complete nonsense.

Prove such a requirement

Show how AZ violates human rights

 

[blackangst1]

What's "it", you retard? Most people prefer not to live near recent immigrants, whether they are illegals or not. I was responding Hendrix who asked why this whole issue became a big issue when Obama was in office. I explained it's because of the downturn in the economy. Any questions?

Yeah I have a question...where did you get this bullshit? Pull it out of your ass? MOST people prefer not live to next to legal immigrants? Really?

 

[Patranus]

(The funny thing is if you go to any other country and don't carry your documents you are fucked)

 

[xj0hnx]

Yeah I have a question...where did you get this bullshit? Pull it out of your ass? MOST people prefer not live to next to legal immigrants? Really?

Ignore 'em the dudes obviously a moron.

 

[waggy]

wow Obama is wrong on this. In no way shape or form should the UN be interfering with or have a say on the how we handle the US's boarder.

This is a silly move on there part. in a attempt to shame/harrase/intimidate AZ and perhaps other states looking to invoke similar laws they are going to turn off many but the hardcore supporters.

 

[nobodyknows]

Obama is a Mohammedan Liberation Theologist Stealth Bomber Plague sent to destroy paranoid imbecilic six fingered Southern God fearing pure American culture and other psychopaths who vote Republican and for our Wealth Overlords who hold us in thrall.

Well, no wonder Michelle Obama s finally proud of the USA!!

 

[nobodyknows]

The admin is trying to show that they are actively identifying supporting their view of human rights.

The state of AZ goes against their view and as such they are challenging it. documenting it in the UN paper makes them look good as a result

Good to who? The multitude of countries that trample all over their citizen's human rights all the time??

LOL, we're just trying to control our borders. I guess we can't have that, it might look bad to the despots of the world.

 

[Harvey]

wow Obama is wrong on this. In no way shape or form should the UN be interfering with or have a say on the how we handle the US's boarder.

Those who are ranting that the Obama administration is seeking, let alone expects, any kind of action by the U.N. are blowing smoke. The adminstration knows the U.N. has no jurisdiction over U.S. immigration law.

The reference in the report was to DOJ's actions as one example of what our government is doing to uphold human rights within its jurisdiction and under our laws. That is a fact. The DOJ is pursuing legal action UNDER THE U.S. JUDICIAL SYSTEM to overturn Arizona's law. That's all there is to it.

 

[nobodyknows]

^ yeah, this is just Obama's way of saying "God Damn America!!".

 

[WelshBloke]

(The funny thing is if you go to any other country and don't carry your documents you are fucked)

 

[classy]

your post is nonsense. there are MANY nations in the UN who violate human rights on levels that are unspeakable. We dont have to prove shit to the UN the whole world knows we as a nation do not violate human rights and the law in AZ isnt even close in doing so.

I swear if some of you guys had two pennies rattling inside your heads you still wouldn't have any sense.

Every nation submits some kind of report every 4 years.

http://www.ohchr.org/en/hrbodies/upr/pages/uprmain.aspx

Universal Periodic Review
The Universal Periodic Review "has great potential to promote and protect human rights in the darkest corners of the world.” – Ban Ki-moon, UN Secretary-General

The Universal Periodic Review (UPR) is a unique process which involves a review of the human rights records of all 192 UN Member States once every four years. The UPR is a State-driven process, under the auspices of the Human Rights Council, which provides the opportunity for each State to declare what actions they have taken to improve the human rights situations in their countries and to fulfil their human rights obligations. As one of the main features of the Council, the UPR is designed to ensure equal treatment for every country when their human rights situations are assessed.

When those idiots in Arizona drafted that nonsense it was a black eye to the US as a whole. It got blown all out of proportion and regardless of the true facts, it made the US appear to be hostile towards immigrants. Now we all know that was not the truth but it is still something that as nation we took some world PR hits on. So including this in the report doesn't do anything but show we are still operating humanely as a nation. If that dumb governor would stop trying to make everything political and just stfu she might find more people willing to help her address the problem but in a more respectable manner.

Every 5 minutes you see her dried up face on tv whining. She is a bleeping governor and her boss, the damn federal government wants her to do something in a different way. So just shut the hell up and quit whining.

And make no mistake about it, whoever was president would have had to address this probably in the report. We are apart of UN and no we don't answer to them but we still need to remain in that position on being a leader on humane issues. And unfortunately this was one of those times we had to give some kind of answer. This is not a big deal at all.

 

[Harvey]

^ yeah, this is just Obama's way of saying "God Damn America!!".

No, it's just your way of saying nobodyknows knows NOTHING.

 

[EagleKeeper]

The AZ was not hostile to immigrants. That was the left trying to paint it as such.
It was hostile to ILLEGAL immigrants.

A big difference that people chose to ignore when coming up with sterotyping scenarios. Those that did so, were ignoring the real world and how it operates w/ respect to AZ and the Federal laws

 

[classy]

The AZ was not hostile to immigrants. That was the left trying to paint it as such.
It was hostile to ILLEGAL immigrants.

A big difference that people chose to ignore when coming up with sterotyping scenarios. Those that did so, were ignoring the real world and how it operates w/ respect to AZ and the Federal laws

Its irrelevant who painted the picture and the true facts. It was still news that spread around the globe that hurt our image. So clearly in this report to the UN they tried to address it. Thats all, nothing more or less.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Its irrelevant who painted the picture and the true facts. It was still news that spread around the globe that hurt our image. So clearly in this report to the UN they tried to address it. Thats all, nothing more or less.

It spread around the world because the liberals in the media, Barack Obama, and other members of government tried to paint the picture. If they would not have tried to use it for political gain this 'hurt' to our image would never have occurred. At least you are admitting that Obama and crew are causing damage to America.

 

[Harvey]

The AZ was not hostile to immigrants. That was the left trying to paint it as such.
It was hostile to ILLEGAL immigrants.

That's a load. It mandates law officers to check anyone requires police to ask for papers from anyone they "suspect" is in the country illegally. The counterpoint to that is, NO law requires ANY American citizen to keep proof of their citizenship on them while exercising their right to traveling freely within the U.S.

Exactly WHO do you think police are most likely to suspect? What Constitutionally legal action should or could they take against an American citizen of Hispanic discent who happens not have proof of citizenship or legal residency on them when asked?

Then, there's the issue that is actually at the heart of the DOJ's suit, whether Arizona's law illegally preempts Federal authority over immigration rights and status. Until that question is answered, not much else matters.

 

[Patranus]

That's a load. It mandates law officers to check anyone requires police to ask for papers from anyone they "suspect" is in the country illegally. The counterpoint to that is, NO law requires ANY American citizen to keep proof of their citizenship on them while exercising their right to traveling freely within the U.S.

Exactly WHO do you think police are most likely to suspect? What Constitutionally legal action should or could they take against an American citizen of Hispanic discent who happens not have proof of citizenship or legal residency on them when asked?

Then, there's the issue that is actually at the heart of the DOJ's suit, whether Arizona's law illegally preempts Federal authority over immigration rights and status. Until that question is answered, not much else matters.

Um. If I am speeding and forgot my drivers license at home what do you think happens when I am pulled over...............

(Hint: You are detained until your identity can be confirmed)

So you end up with 4 scenarios under this law.

1) Produce valid government issued ID.
2) Produce foreign ID and immigration documents (that you are required to carry)
3) Produce foreign ID and no documents. Pretty logical their identity should be further verified.
4) Produce no ID. Detained until ID confirmed.

So you really only end up with a problem in 3/4 and the problem works its self out.

How do you suggest the police confirm your identity if you have no ID?

Hell, police right now check you for warrants even when there is no probable cause that you have a warrant for your arrest. How about that "human rights violation".