Stargate:Universe 1x11 "Space" Friday 9pm

[Wag]

Nah. They just made shit up. There was no "hidden code" for Destiny in the Atlantis show. The same way Daniel Jackson was essentially written out of SG-1 until the fans got all pissy and they brought him back.

 

[OUCaptain]

it seems like they occurred in a similar time frame..

Atlantis was just an ancient outpost in the pegasus galaxy.

this is like saying... check the air force base in the West Indies. I'm sure it has the nuclear launch codes.

You made the argument that Atlantis is a base on the outskirts. Yet we know the Pegasus galaxy is like the next neighborhood to ancients. If we as you admitted don't know the timeline, why is it so impossible that Atlantis has information about Destiny?

 

[guyver01]

You made the argument that Atlantis is a base on the outskirts. ...Why is it so impossible that Atlantis has information about Destiny?

I didn't say that Atlantis is a base on the outskirts... unless you want to state that the West Indies is on the oustkirts?

Atlantis was just another outpost.

When it was on earth.. it was in the Artic.

When the Orii began their "war" against the ancients... a group of ancients commondered Atlantis and jumped it to Pegasus.

Atlantis wasn't "special" ... it wasn't the White House of the Ancients. It was just another base... and Destiny is just another 'seed ship'

 

[OUCaptain]

I didn't say that Atlantis is a base on the outskirts... unless you want to state that the West Indies is on the oustkirts?

Atlantis was just another outpost.

When it was on earth.. it was in the Artic.

When the Orii began their "war" against the ancients... a group of ancients commondered Atlantis and jumped it to Pegasus.

Atlantis wasn't "special" ... it wasn't the White House of the Ancients. It was just another base... and Destiny is just another 'seed ship'

So again I ask. Why is it so impossible for the Atlantian databases to not have information on the Destiny? You've stated that we don't know the true time line. They could have easily transfered information between their seed ships and their outposts. Even if it takes 200 years, that's still well within your "it seems like they occurred in a similar time frame".

 

[silverpig]

Did you even watch the new episode?

Did you even check the timestamp on my post?

 

[silverpig]

I just watch for the soldier with the huge yabbos (don't say you don't). I wonder how she made it through basic with her plastic surgeon in tow?

Pretty sure they're natural...

 

[guyver01]

So again I ask. Why is it so impossible for the Atlantian databases to not have information on the Destiny?

It's not impossible.... just improbable.

Yes, granted Destiny and Atlantis were built by Aliens, and their protocols are no way like ours.

But... in the modern US Military... i assume that every base does not have specifications for every ship in service.

It is highly unlikely that i can go down to Buckley AFB, and get detailed schematics, specs, and classified information about the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) from their computer systems.

 

[OUCaptain]

It's not impossible.... just improbable.

Yes, granted Destiny and Atlantis were built by Aliens, and their protocols are no way like ours.

But... in the modern US Military... i assume that every base does not have specifications for every ship in service.

It is highly unlikely that i can go down to Buckley AFB, and get detailed schematics, specs, and classified information about the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) from their computer systems.

It's a story bro. Just go with the canon. "modern US Military" doesn't apply to Ancient anything. Go ahead and admit that you made contradictory arguments.

 

[Wag]

Pretty sure they're natural...

Yeah, those are natural.

 

[ussfletcher]

It's not impossible.... just improbable.

Yes, granted Destiny and Atlantis were built by Aliens, and their protocols are no way like ours.

But... in the modern US Military... i assume that every base does not have specifications for every ship in service.

It is highly unlikely that i can go down to Buckley AFB, and get detailed schematics, specs, and classified information about the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) from their computer systems.

No, but you could probably access the internet and find useful enough information for almost any purpose.

 

[silverpig]

It's not impossible.... just improbable.

Yes, granted Destiny and Atlantis were built by Aliens, and their protocols are no way like ours.

But... in the modern US Military... i assume that every base does not have specifications for every ship in service.

It is highly unlikely that i can go down to Buckley AFB, and get detailed schematics, specs, and classified information about the USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) from their computer systems.

You could probably go into any Ford dealership and find the manual for an F-250 though.

 

[silverpig]

Yeah, those are natural.

Just cause they're big doesn't mean they're fake.

http://www.juliabensononline.com/2009_10_01_archive.html

I play 2nd Lt. Vanessa James and for all the talk about my natural (and believe me they are 100%) assets I promise you that there is much more to my character. Who knew that a tank top could cause such a stir. LOL!!

Also, you can google for her pictures... she was topless in a scene in some other show.

 

[OUCaptain]

Did you even check the timestamp on my post?

What what is it you deem useful? They were forced into contact with an unintended alien. How exactly do you purpose they do something useful when they were unable to control who they contact?

 

[Wag]

Yeah, just like every other actress in La-La Land she's 100% natural (thanks to her plastic surgeon).

 

[silverpig]

What what is it you deem useful? They were forced into contact with an unintended alien. How exactly do you purpose they do something useful when they were unable to control who they contact?

My post was made the day before the episode aired. Up until that point all they had used the stones for was to go back to Earth for personal reasons and to set up some stupid love triangle.

So at that point, no, I hadn't seen the new episode.

:roll;

 

[silverpig]

Yeah, just like every other actress in La-La Land she's 100% natural (thanks to her plastic surgeon).

You're fake.

 

[OUCaptain]

My post was made the day before the episode aired. Up until that point all they had used the stones for was to go back to Earth for personal reasons and to set up some stupid love triangle.

So at that point, no, I hadn't seen the new episode.

:roll;

yup, missed the day. I agree with you though, those puppies just might be natural. They are in my head anyway. They do seem to be nippin a lot though.

 

[techs]

Just to clear up the whole "check on Atlantis" for the codes debate.

The Ancients are originally from Earth. This fact is not in doubt. The Ancients refer to humans as the "second iteration of our form on Earth".

The Ancients had, at one point, at least some outposts in our Galaxy, not on Earth. For example Taonas Proclarush where SG1 found a ZPM.

It is unclear how humans came to be in the Pegasus Galaxy on Stargate Atlantis. If they evolved naturally, they would be the third iteration of human forms.

What is known about the Ancients and Pegasus, is that a plague on Earth forced the Ancients to leave Earth in Atlantis to go to the Pegasus Galaxy.

No other cities were mentioned leaving our Galaxy, or even existing. Atlantis is the only city of the Ancients known to exist, at least insofar as we have been told. We do know the Ancients also built outposts in Pegasus, but the series has never said anything but that Atlantis was the home and the main base and city of the Ancients.

So, yeah, they should look for the records of the Destiny expedition and its codes in the Atlantis database.

Though I don't think they will find the codes there.

If you remember, on Atlantis in Janus's lab and on Ancients device on Dakaraa, the "code" to both was based on figuring out puzzles which required knowledge of the Ancients language and history. When you think about, that's a pretty good code.

If you saw the seasons previews you saw Daniel Jackson. He would be the one to call to try and solve a code based on the Ancients language and history.

 

[guyver01]

It is unclear how humans came to be in the Pegasus Galaxy on Stargate Atlantis. If they evolved naturally, they would be the third iteration of human forms.

Nerd Fail.

At one point in the series (Episode - The Gift), they stated that the Ancients aboard Atlantis began seeding Humans in the Pegasus Galaxy. They accidentally seeded a planet inhabited by the Iratus bug, and it began feeding on the humans.

It was the Iratus/Human hybrid which became known as the Wraith.

 

[techs]

It is unclear how humans came to be in the Pegasus Galaxy on Stargate Atlantis. If they evolved naturally, they would be the third iteration of human forms.

Nerd Fail.

At one point in the series (Episode - The Gift), they stated that the Ancients aboard Atlantis began seeding Humans in the Pegasus Galaxy. They accidentally seeded a planet inhabited by the Iratus bug, and it began feeding on the humans.

It was the Iratus/Human hybrid which became known as the Wraith.

They never said where the humans came from originally in Pegasus. Were they taken from the Milky Way galaxy, specifically Earth? Were they found already in Pegaus? We don't know for sure how humans came to be in Pegasus, only that the Ancients spread them around.

 

[guyver01]

They never said where the humans came from originally in Pegasus. Were they taken from the Milky Way galaxy, specifically Earth? Were the found already in Pegaus. We don't know for sure how humans came to be in Pegasus, only that the Ancients spread them around.

Yes they did. Go Watch the episode, The Gift.

The Ancients seeded life in the pegasus galaxy.

 

[techs]

Yes they did. Go Watch the episode, The Gift.

The Ancients seeded life in the pegasus galaxy.

Yes, but its unclear whether they created the life, or brought it from another galaxy.

 

[guyver01]

Yes, but its unclear whether they created the life, or brought it from another galaxy.

It is implied they created the life... as the revalation was in an Ancient "lab"

Either way... the ancients introduced life to the pegasus galaxy.

 

[techs]

It is implied they created the life... as the revalation was in an Ancient "lab"

Either way... the ancients introduced life to the pegasus galaxy.

Regardless, the point of my post is that Atlantis was implied to be the principle home of the Ancients and should therefore have the records of the Destiny mission.

 

[guyver01]

Regardless, the point of my post is that Atlantis was implied to be the principle home of the Ancients and should therefore have the records of the Destiny mission.

Atlantis was the Capital of the Ancients in the Pegasus Galaxy. It's disposition on Earth, and in the Milky Way, was never given.

One could argue, since Atlantis was located in the Antartic, that it was not the main city.

Atlantis could have been the New York of the Ancient Civilization ... or the Miami. We don't know.