Star Wars: The Old Republic E3 2010 Trailer

[StinkyPinky]

AFter looking at the screenshots I can safely say that Crysis can rest easy :sneaky:

Welcome to 2004.

But hey, the gameplay is what matters.

 

[zerocool84]

AFter looking at the screenshots I can safely say that Crysis can rest easy :sneaky:

Welcome to 2004.

But hey, the gameplay is what matters.

Well duh it's a MMO cus MMO's aren't known to be graphic powerhouse games cus they need to be able to cater to tons of lower end machines to get the most money.

 

[AMDZen]

Total epic-ness. Can't believe I'm going to have to conform and probably play my first MMO now once this is released.

DOH!!!

 

[pennylane]

I like the part where she went hadoken.

 

[smackababy]

Total epic-ness. Can't believe I'm going to have to conform and probably play my first MMO now once this is released.

DOH!!!

I don't understand why they released such a trailer, and now non-MMO players are going to be "interested" until they actually play the game and realize it isn't anything like the trailer. In fact, I can't even think of a game that IS like the trailers.


This game will be a WoW clone, and it will be good from an MMO player's perspective. It won't be a game the MMO haters will love. The only other appealing quality it will have over over players not interested in MMOs will be that it is Star Wars. I happen to like MMOs, so I am willing to try it; but the fact that it is Star Wars makes for certain that I am buying it on release day. I've done the same for every Star Wars game I can remember.

 

[coloumb]

WoW clone it will not be. You won't see orcs and elves nor dwarfs nor blood elfs or undead.

It will of course use similar mechanics that most MMO's use - tank, healer, dps, ranged, etc as the e3 videos have shown. And the usual "go do something to be rewarded or prove yourself" quests... lets just hope it's not "go get me 10 baby rancor teeth and I'll give you this neat useless knife". 🙂

I am glad to hear they will have PVP specific zones - that should keep the ADHD pvp kiddies happy. That's one thing SWG desperately needed [they were in the game - but didn't work].

And just remember - WoW was cloned from an MMO before it... they just "borrowed" the good ideas and made it simpler for just about anyone to pick up and play. 🙂

 

[smackababy]

WoW clone it will not be. You won't see orcs and elves nor dwarfs nor blood elfs or undead.

It will of course use similar mechanics that most MMO's use - tank, healer, dps, ranged, etc as the e3 videos have shown. And the usual "go do something to be rewarded or prove yourself" quests... lets just hope it's not "go get me 10 baby rancor teeth and I'll give you this neat useless knife". 🙂

I am glad to hear they will have PVP specific zones - that should keep the ADHD pvp kiddies happy. That's one thing SWG desperately needed [they were in the game - but didn't work].

And just remember - WoW was cloned from an MMO before it... they just "borrowed" the good ideas and made it simpler for just about anyone to pick up and play. 🙂

The UI looks strikingly similar to WoWs, and what MMOs were out before WoW? Everquest and UO are the only two that I can think of that had any considerable population, and I'll tell you from years of experience, they didn't copy from UO. If they had, WoW wouldn't be nearly as carebear. I never played Everquest because I grew up on UO and couldn't take the fact that PvP was only allowed under strict conditions. I guess I'm one of those "ADHD pvp kiddies" because I like a little risk vs reward.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

The UI looks strikingly similar to WoWs, and what MMOs were out before WoW? Everquest and UO are the only two that I can think of that had any considerable population, and I'll tell you from years of experience, they didn't copy from UO. If they had, WoW wouldn't be nearly as carebear. I never played Everquest because I grew up on UO and couldn't take the fact that PvP was only allowed under strict conditions. I guess I'm one of those "ADHD pvp kiddies" because I like a little risk vs reward.

Don't forget, WoW changed what is considered a "large" population. Prior to WoW, 200K to 300K was considered large. I think EQ was around 500K, SWG peaked at 300K, and I am not sure what UO's pop was.

There are a few heavily PvP-focused games out now. AoC is one, and Darkfall is another. I like PvP, but personally, I hate getting ganked when trying to do quests. So I support PvP regions.

 

[smackababy]

Don't forget, WoW changed what is considered a "large" population. Prior to WoW, 200K to 300K was considered large. I think EQ was around 500K, SWG peaked at 300K, and I am not sure what UO's pop was.

There are a few heavily PvP-focused games out now. AoC is one, and Darkfall is another. I like PvP, but personally, I hate getting ganked when trying to do quests. So I support PvP regions.

At its peak UO had 300k subscribers. That is what I was talking about when I said large. The popularity of MMOs at the time (before 2004) was very low compared to now. This is probably due in part to not many people having broadband. Dial up was brutal for MMOs, even when 56k was considered acceptable speeds.

But like I was saying, unless this game is a WoW clone, it isn't going to do well and have the staying power.




Another gripe I have about this game, and most new MMOs in general, is only two factions. Why can't there be at least 4? The Star Wars universe is full of other factions who could be neutral or even at war with one or both sides. Mandalorians should have been included to give them at least 3.

 

[AMDZen]

I don't understand why they released such a trailer, and now non-MMO players are going to be "interested" until they actually play the game and realize it isn't anything like the trailer. In fact, I can't even think of a game that IS like the trailers.


This game will be a WoW clone, and it will be good from an MMO player's perspective. It won't be a game the MMO haters will love. The only other appealing quality it will have over over players not interested in MMOs will be that it is Star Wars. I happen to like MMOs, so I am willing to try it; but the fact that it is Star Wars makes for certain that I am buying it on release day. I've done the same for every Star Wars game I can remember.

Well I guess I can't say for sure but I've been watching this from the get go. I am a star wars fan, a huge fan of KoTOR and I just have a feeling I'm going to want to play this game.

And I loathe the thought

 

[smackababy]

Well I guess I can't say for sure but I've been watching this from the get go. I am a star wars fan, a huge fan of KoTOR and I just have a feeling I'm going to want to play this game.

And I loathe the thought

That comment before wasn't directed towards you, just towards most people who don't play or like MMOs. I know a lot of people will jump into this because it is BioWare, Star Wars, and now because the trailers are extremely exaggerating what the gameplay is capable of.

 

[zinfamous]

did anyone catch the long spiel they did on G4 the other night? I was browsing through and noticed they were doing an E3 special so I stopped and checked it out.

about 15+ minutes of TOR with project leader, playing through a quest, and then some with a sith apprentice and showing various moves, techniques, animations, combat, etc. talking about ship design and character design and what-not.

To me, WoW is very cartoony, too childish for me. While the colors in TOH are over-saturated, I wouldn't call it cartoony. maybe the interface is similar, but it looks more like Guild Wars to me. I noticed 8 skills available on your panel at a time. not some massive skill bar 2 rows deep that takes up vast screen real estate; and not what I would call cartoony.

 

[ctark]

This is true, but the order was a lot different during the Old Republic. It has been destroyed and rebuilt numerous times, as has the Sith Empire. None of the Sith in this game are even true Sith, they are simply Dark Jedi. I think once Jedi started falling in mass to the dark side, rules were enacted to combat emotional stress that could contribute, as well as limiting what powers were studied. Also, I believe all Sith artifacts and holocrons were destroyed to prevent Jedi being corrupted studying them.

You are wrong. The rule of two had not been implemented by Darth Bane yet. There use to be Sith armies and they were just as common if not more common than Jedi. The reason Darth Bane instituted the rule of two is because the Sith kept knocking each other off, they also have inner wars at times.

 

[Kev]

I think the lightsabers look pretty bad in the previews I saw. Almost like they are children's toys.

 

[Kev]

That comment before wasn't directed towards you, just towards most people who don't play or like MMOs. I know a lot of people will jump into this because it is BioWare, Star Wars, and now because the trailers are extremely exaggerating what the gameplay is capable of.

what kind of complete moron would someone have to be to think a fully rendered trailer represented actual gameplay?

 

[AMDZen]

Does anyone know how much the monthly fee will be for this game?

 

[smackababy]

You are wrong. The rule of two had not been implemented by Darth Bane yet. There use to be Sith armies and they were just as common if not more common than Jedi. The reason Darth Bane instituted the rule of two is because the Sith kept knocking each other off, they also have inner wars at times.

Yes, but not during the time of the the game was in place. Darth Revan's Sith were not true sith. They were Jedi turned evil.

 

[Fayd]

Hm why did the rebels give up their positional advantage on the ridge to run into the trees where melee expert Sith were, no wonder they lost to the empire. And the main rebel guy can't keep a gun in his hands for 20 seconds before he throws it to the ground to charge someone 🙂


Cool video though 🙂

the girl who is barely able to hold back the sith's lightsaber strike with both hands, magically is able to do it with 1 hand while she brings down a tree?

:/


this is why i liked jedi knight 2 / jedi academy. things made more sense. max force choke, throw people off ledges.

 

[rivan]

Does anyone know how much the monthly fee will be for this game?

Know? Probably not, and if they have any really informed idea, they'll probably not speak up here.

I'd guess, however, they'll follow the WoW model.

 

[Mide]

throw people off ledges.

+1 to this...oh great memories.

 

[NoQuarter]

the girl who is barely able to hold back the sith's lightsaber strike with both hands, magically is able to do it with 1 hand while she brings down a tree?

:/


this is why i liked jedi knight 2 / jedi academy. things made more sense. max force choke, throw people off ledges.

Heh.. did you see the new Force Unleashed 2 trailer? Made even less sense.. where did he get those 2 lightsabers from while he was chained up. Then why did the 50 stormtroopers in the hangar keep rushing at him to their deaths when they're armed only with blasters, then make a circle around him where they would shoot each other if they miss him and all walk in to melee range with no intention to melee him?

 

[AndroidVageta]

I bet it was hard for them to come up with the name of this game...

1. Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic
2. Remove "Knights of"
3. ????
4. Profit!

 

[s44]

Yes, but not during the time of the the game was in place. Darth Revan's Sith were not true sith. They were Jedi turned evil.

You keep saying this like it's correct.

In fact, according to current lore, they were converted by the true Sith Emperor.

 

[smackababy]

this is why i liked jedi knight 2 / jedi academy. things made more sense. max force choke, throw people off ledges.

max force push, break choke, roll, stab, win

 

[midnight growler]

Actually these ARE the TRUE Sith that Revan had premonitions of and went off the into the deep end of the dark side to fight against.

He became just a dark Jedi sometime around finding the first Star Forge map. While trying to complete the maps, he found the True Sith led by their Emperor. Realizing that this was the true threat all along, he tried to fight fire with fire but Malak betrayed him and this is when KOTOR 1 happened. After being redeemed to the light, Revan still had the True Sith to worry about and went off along to stop them. Then KOTOR 2 takes place and loose ends are tied up.

Apparently Revan failed because now the True Sith arrive and tear the Jedi a new one. This is when TOR takes place.