Star Wars Next Gen

[EvanAdams]

But it sure is cool!

YouTube

 

[biff 24 2000]

looks really cool.

 

[shortylickens]

This is gonna show my ignorance but was that Jedi Knight 3 or what?

 

[EvanAdams]

No not real. It is lucasarts pulling a sony / Killzone 2 lame prerendered stunt.

The point of the post is: 1) to show a cool movie, and 2) to express my anoyance with companies thinking they are doing their job by releasing lies (if not lies then at least missleadings) to us the consumer.

 

[cKGunslinger]

The thing is, though, is that games have been putting out pre-rendered teasers for a long, long time now - but technology is now at the point where the pre-rendered and in-game graphics are so close, that we're often not sure which is which, unlike before when we all knew as soon as we saw them.

But for some reason, now it bothers us.

 

[Unkno]

if only lucusarts actually put a fair bit of money into creating a VERY good engine (must include physics).....just imagine how great the game could be with the usable force powers. Hell, there would be nearly no point in using lightsabers if they can just use physics and have force powers moving objects to slam against people

 

[EvanAdams]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

But for some reason, now it bothers us.

Yes it bothers me. Because now it is deceptive in nature.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
The thing is, though, is that games have been putting out pre-rendered teasers for a long, long time now - but technology is now at the point where the pre-rendered and in-game graphics are so close, that we're often not sure which is which, unlike before when we all knew as soon as we saw them.

But for some reason, now it bothers us.

that begs the question then, why don't they just use in-engine work to make a "movie" - use machinima?

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: Unkno
if only lucusarts actually put a fair bit of money into creating a VERY good engine (must include physics).....just imagine how great the game could be with the usable force powers. Hell, there would be nearly no point in using lightsabers if they can just use physics and have force powers moving objects to slam against people

I have to disagree sir.
The last time they used their own engine it sucked ass, (Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight).
However when they used a known quality engine (ID's Quake 3) not only did they put out games quicker but they were much better, (Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy, KOTOR 1, KOTOR 2).

I have long wished they would just licence the Doom3 or Source engine and make another good Star Wars game.

So, getting back on topic:
What game was I just watching and was a cinematic rendering engine or an actual modern game engine?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
The thing is, though, is that games have been putting out pre-rendered teasers for a long, long time now - but technology is now at the point where the pre-rendered and in-game graphics are so close, that we're often not sure which is which, unlike before when we all knew as soon as we saw them.

But for some reason, now it bothers us.

that begs the question then, why don't they just use in-engine work to make a "movie" - use machinima?

True, many games do this. But I'd imagine the required amout of scripting and details may call for pre-rendering, rather than incorporating those kinds of things in the game and have them only used for a pre-rendered sequence.

I mean, a few digital/AV guys are probably 10x cheaper than experienced AI and scripting programmers

 

[Ichigo]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
The thing is, though, is that games have been putting out pre-rendered teasers for a long, long time now - but technology is now at the point where the pre-rendered and in-game graphics are so close, that we're often not sure which is which, unlike before when we all knew as soon as we saw them.

But for some reason, now it bothers us.

that begs the question then, why don't they just use in-engine work to make a "movie" - use machinima?

They do, sometimes.

But about the video, GOD that was cool. "Ahhh... AHHHH. NO PLEASE!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"

Fun stuff.

 

[flashbacck]

doesn't the first half of the vid look like it could be in game? The second half is clearly prerendered, imho.

 

[Megatomic]

OT but if that is a coming game then I'm preordering it. I love Jedi games. :thumbsup:

 

[neutralizer]

I love the Jedi series. Dual lightsabers ftw. I'm hoping that there's a Star Wars game coming to Wii that'll take advantage of the controller and allow us to use the controller like a lightsaber.

 

[flashbacck]

Originally posted by: shortylickensSo, getting back on topic:
What game was I just watching and was a cinematic rendering engine or an actual modern game engine?

So anyone have an answer to what game/movie this clip is suppose to belong to?

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: flashbacck

Originally posted by: shortylickensSo, getting back on topic:
What game was I just watching and was a cinematic rendering engine or an actual modern game engine?

So anyone have an answer to what game/movie this clip is suppose to belong to?

It doesn't belong to any particular game or movie. It is a tech/target demo.

 

[mezrah]

"This video has been removed at the request of copyright owner Lucasfilm because its content was used without permission"

 

[potato28]

Originally posted by: mezrah
"This video has been removed at the request of copyright owner Lucasfilm because its content was used without permission"

I never got to see it

 

[Dacalo]

Oh fvck that! I want a new X-Wing and TIE Fighter.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Dacalo
Oh fvck that! I want a new X-Wing and TIE Fighter.

QFT. tie fighter was the best of them by far... i still have tie fighter, might have to play it again. playing the imperials was so sweet. die rebel scum!

 

[MrBond]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
The last time they used their own engine it sucked ass, (Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight).
However when they used a known quality engine (ID's Quake 3) not only did they put out games quicker but they were much better, (Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy, KOTOR 1, KOTOR 2).

Jedi Knight was at the time regarded as one of the best FPS'es available. Sure the lightsaber combat was clunky, but the game itself was amazing. Good puzzles, neat level design (falling ship!), and massive levels.

If they could take the graphics engine and lightsaber combat from Jedi Outcast/Academy and put in the Jedi Knight story and levels, it'd be an awesome game.

 

[flashbacck]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Dacalo
Oh fvck that! I want a new X-Wing and TIE Fighter.

QFT. tie fighter was the best of them by far... i still have tie fighter, might have to play it again. playing the imperials was so sweet. die rebel scum!

never tried either one of these, but these interest you...

remake of Tie Fighter for X-Wing Alliance - http://www.tftc.gaylenol.com/index.html

X-Wing Aliiance Upgrade project - http://www.xwaupgrade.com/

 

[EvanAdams]

Originally posted by: flashbacck

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Dacalo
Oh fvck that! I want a new X-Wing and TIE Fighter.

QFT. tie fighter was the best of them by far... i still have tie fighter, might have to play it again. playing the imperials was so sweet. die rebel scum!

never tried either one of these, but these interest you...

remake of Tie Fighter for X-Wing Alliance - http://www.tftc.gaylenol.com/index.html

X-Wing Aliiance Upgrade project - http://www.xwaupgrade.com/

Wow I will have to look into that. It is far and away my favorite games of all time.

Double full shields to front.... I'm going in.

 

[Elderly Newt]

video removed because of copyright infringment

 

[KillyKillall]

lame. can we see this anywhere else?