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Star Wars Conceptual Failure?

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acheron

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Rebels didn't destroy the Death Star. You really think a single X-Wing could have taken it out? It was a controlled demolition.
 

UberNeuman

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They blew-up an entire fucking planet. That doesn't fall in the "good" column.

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They had it coming.
 

Nik

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Yes yes yes about blowing up Alderaan, but the Death Stars were in production to fight off the Vong that the Emperor knew were coming. The Rebels were stupid flies buzzing around getting in the Emperor's way of actually saving the galaxy. The Jedi were too short-sighted to see it coming. The Emperor was actually a thousand years old and the Sith (yes, a hidden planet full of PEACEFUL Sith) helped orchestrate the Emperor's rise to power for the sole purpose of fighting of the Vong.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Well if we consider the new trilogy, the first 3 episodes, we see how Palpatine starts fucking wars that end the lives of millions/billions/who knows to take power...Imagine if Hitler was older and started WW1 to take power in Germany, and then had actually won WWII and took over the entire world.

Basically, you could either join the empire, or be taken with force, and if you weren't of the ideal race, then you probably got the raw end of the deal.

Granted, the OP is right about the rosier side of the story. Luke was actually planning to join an Imperial academy to become a pilot before he learned about the rebel cause.

The lead-in title sequence said they were evil, and they had the "bad-ass" music.

That's all I need.

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They blew-up an entire fucking planet. That doesn't fall in the "good" column.

its funny it took this long for that fact to be brought up :awe:
 

bunnyfubbles

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Yes yes yes about blowing up Alderaan, but the Death Stars were in production to fight off the Vong that the Emperor knew were coming. The Rebels were stupid flies buzzing around getting in the Emperor's way of actually saving the galaxy. The Jedi were too short-sighted to see it coming. The Emperor was actually a thousand years old and the Sith (yes, a hidden planet full of PEACEFUL Sith) helped orchestrate the Emperor's rise to power for the sole purpose of fighting of the Vong.

yeah if only the Vong story line wasn't so hokey with the biological technology BS... anyways, a warrior race from a different galaxy vs. a fully battle ready empire would have made for an epic story.
 

Elias824

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Rebels didn't destroy the Death Star. You really think a single X-Wing could have taken it out? It was a controlled demolition.

simply hilarious. The emperor simply wanted the insurance money. Maybe the empire is short on iron (since they build so many giant ships) so they just use the rebel cause as an excuse to blow up planets so they can mine out the planet core.
 

zinfamous

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For the average Russian their life was easier under communism.

...until you were deported to Siberia in the middle of the night, because someone snitched on you for simply having your national flag stashed away in your closet.

I agree with Firsttime and GasX--it seems like things were mildly tolerable, albeit a bit boring until you crossed the status quo. Probably secret police all over the place poised to send you off to some mine somewhere.
 

zinfamous

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Thats no moon, its your mother! sorry I couldnt resist.
Yeah they kind of went around blowing up planets, probably not the best regime to live under. They murder their generals regularly in the movies, also they make those guy work next to the big deathstar cannon with no railing in the first movie, id hardly consider that a safe working environment.

haha win!

...wonder what his Rad level is after a day's work?

:hmm:
 

TehMac

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Aug 18, 2006
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Life in Germany in 1939 was pretty awesome if you were blond and blue eyed...

*sigh* why do people keep perpetrating this myth? No one supported Hitler except in the South, he got into power through a coalition vote and assumed power because his brown/black shirts beat the shit out of anyone who opposed him.

Be less ignorant, read a book not Zeitgeist.


Yes yes yes about blowing up Alderaan, but the Death Stars were in production to fight off the Vong that the Emperor knew were coming. The Rebels were stupid flies buzzing around getting in the Emperor's way of actually saving the galaxy. The Jedi were too short-sighted to see it coming. The Emperor was actually a thousand years old and the Sith (yes, a hidden planet full of PEACEFUL Sith) helped orchestrate the Emperor's rise to power for the sole purpose of fighting of the Vong.

That's quite a lot of fan fiction you got going there...
 

Nik

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That's quite a lot of fan fiction you got going there...

Yep, there's, like, 90127067q9837459817234098710923847627360 fan-written novels but all of that post you quoted is in the extended universe, accepted by Lucas.
 

TehMac

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Yep, there's, like, 90127067q9837459817234098710923847627360 fan-written novels but all of that post you quoted is in the extended universe, accepted by Lucas.

fair enough. I remember when I was a kid I read a fan fiction book, but it was about these weird extra-galactic aliens that invaded and their shit was pretty much invincible to what the Jedi/Republic could throw at them.

Also, it seems a bit "convenient" to say that Sidious could have foreseen such an invasion and that was his intent of the death star when it was fairly obvious both death stars in the actual films were for planetary coercion.
 

Nik

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Jun 5, 2006
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Yeah well, Eps 1-3 also has his stamp of approval and they sucked donkey balls.

In your opinion.

Also, it seems a bit "convenient" to say that Sidious could have foreseen such an invasion and that was his intent of the death star when it was fairly obvious both death stars in the actual films were for planetary coercion.

From a narrow point of view, yes. If you didn't know the Vong were coming and didn't know how strong they were, this point of view would be correct. ;)

I know what you're trying to say and I agree, to a point. You don't have to read the EU novels and you certainly can reject that part of the story if you wish. I like it (and several other story lines like Thrawn and Rogue Squadron and books like I, Jedi).