Star Trek: Why no seatbelts...or grab handles? :-)

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BillGates

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Originally posted by: XCLAN
prolly cuzz we are a bunch of wusssies...and they are real men? Gag i hate startrek{zips up flame proof suit}.

Bling, bling, give this man a prize!
 

SagaLore

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1. The entire ship is encompassed by an interial dampener - without it, everyone would end like a splatted bug on a windshield when they went to warp, or even impulse

2. Without the dampener, subtle ship-wide movements would be lethal, so a seatbelt would just serve to slice you in half

3. People that get flung away from their station are flung not be intertial force, but rather some type of explosion or gas/energy discharge - if they were strapped it, instead of going with the force, they would be stationary and endure it... lethal

4. During times of attack, you would not want to be strapped in when an enemy beamed in... you'd be a sitting duck with bad response time

5. Most auxillary or tactical stations don't even have seats

6. Most starships are made for diplomatic or research missions, therefore the aesthetic look is prefered

7. Somebody made a comment about their clothes... the fabric is of course a space-age material designed to keep the body at a balanced temperature, while allowing breathing and proper sweat evaporation - it is probably extremely comfortable
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
1. The entire ship is encompassed by an interial dampener - without it, everyone would end like a splatted bug on a windshield when they went to warp, or even impulse

2. Without the dampener, subtle ship-wide movements would be lethal, so a seatbelt would just serve to slice you in half

3. People that get flung away from their station are flung not be intertial force, but rather some type of explosion or gas/energy discharge - if they were strapped it, instead of going with the force, they would be stationary and endure it... lethal

4. During times of attack, you would not want to be strapped in when an enemy beamed in... you'd be a sitting duck with bad response time

5. Most auxillary or tactical stations don't even have seats

6. Most starships are made for diplomatic or research missions, therefore the aesthetic look is prefered

7. Somebody made a comment about their clothes... the fabric is of course a space-age material designed to keep the body at a balanced temperature, while allowing breathing and proper sweat evaporation - it is probably extremely comfortable


Now this man is a real Trekkie~ :D

how dare you ask this quesiton NFS4! ;)
 

michaelh20

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What I love is the fact that whenever a ship is hit *anywhere*, something always blows up on the bridge and someone is either killed or flies around, and there's always a little smoke or steam or something (usually some stupid panel blows up which isn't attached to anything anyway) and all they have to do is hit a button or something or they grab a fire extinguisher and *all fixed*

 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: michaelh20
What I love is the fact that whenever a ship is hit *anywhere*, something always blows up on the bridge and someone is either killed or flies around, and there's always a little smoke or steam or something (usually some stupid panel blows up which isn't attached to anything anyway) and all they have to do is hit a button or something or they grab a fire extinguisher and *all fixed*

LOL, the engine nacelles are hit by a photon torpedo, and explosions go off on the bridge. It cracks me up every time :D
 

Kadarin

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"Inertial dampeners at 30%.."
"Shields at 25%"
"Structural integrity at 20%"
"Hull breach in progress.."
"Divert power to inertial dampeners.."

Incoming photon torpedo hit, obligatory shower of sparks from random console on bridge. Doctor scans crew member with handheld thingie and revives person with some injection.

Uniforms do not have pockets..
Handheld phasers always lose power and don't work when you need them the most. Whatever happened to equally effective slug-throwers?

"We no longer have money; the challenge is to make yourself better.." (Picard from some TNG episode, I think where they revived someone from the past.)
"That will be twelve bars of gold-pressed latinum.." Quark, in his casino.. And what the hell is gold-pressed latinum, anyway?

Star Trek has some good qualities, but realism isn't one of them. Babylon 5 was much, much better in that regard. (Better starships, too..)
 

AU Tiger

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Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
What you really want to know NFS4 is why 21st century Audis have better interiors than 24th century starships ;)

The Enterprise must be a GM product
 

vegetation

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It's gold (which isn't worth a lot) with latinum, some sort of liquid that cannot be replicated, encased inside.

As for Picard, he was probably talking specifically about Starfleet. No money needed (for him) at all to fly in starships or visit other worlds, for example. You would just work hard all your life for the goal of being in command of something, a department, ship, starbase, something of that sort. Just imagine being in his position, no amount of money would come near that level of satisfaction. That's what I think he was getting at.

"We no longer have money; the challenge is to make yourself better.." (Picard from some TNG episode, I think where they revived someone from the past.)
"That will be twelve bars of gold-pressed latinum.." Quark, in his casino.. And what the hell is gold-pressed latinum, anyway?

Star Trek has some good qualities, but realism isn't one of them. Babylon 5 was much, much better in that regard. (Better starships, too..)

 

JC

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
"Inertial dampeners at 30%.."
"Shields at 25%"
"Structural integrity at 20%"
"Hull breach in progress.."
"Divert power to inertial dampeners.."

Incoming photon torpedo hit, obligatory shower of sparks from random console on bridge. Doctor scans crew member with handheld thingie and revives person with some injection.

Uniforms do not have pockets..
Handheld phasers always lose power and don't work when you need them the most. Whatever happened to equally effective slug-throwers?

"We no longer have money; the challenge is to make yourself better.." (Picard from some TNG episode, I think where they revived someone from the past.)
"That will be twelve bars of gold-pressed latinum.." Quark, in his casino.. And what the hell is gold-pressed latinum, anyway?

Star Trek has some good qualities, but realism isn't one of them. Babylon 5 was much, much better in that regard. (Better starships, too..)


Yeah, those fiber optic cables are prone to explosion, don'tcha know!

Seems to me like the 'inertial dampers' are the first thing to go 'off line' when the ship is hit
rolleye.gif


And yes, B5 was a great show too. But 'Crusade' sux ballz. :|

JC
 

Deeko

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Another thing...why is when they are getting hit and all, they will remark that shields are at say 60%....ok....so this big protective shield is still up and protecting the ship. Why is the ship getting tossed around, and why are other components getting damanged? Answer THAT one trekkies :)
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: JC
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
"Inertial dampeners at 30%.."
"Shields at 25%"
"Structural integrity at 20%"
"Hull breach in progress.."
"Divert power to inertial dampeners.."

Incoming photon torpedo hit, obligatory shower of sparks from random console on bridge. Doctor scans crew member with handheld thingie and revives person with some injection.

Uniforms do not have pockets..
Handheld phasers always lose power and don't work when you need them the most. Whatever happened to equally effective slug-throwers?

"We no longer have money; the challenge is to make yourself better.." (Picard from some TNG episode, I think where they revived someone from the past.)
"That will be twelve bars of gold-pressed latinum.." Quark, in his casino.. And what the hell is gold-pressed latinum, anyway?

Star Trek has some good qualities, but realism isn't one of them. Babylon 5 was much, much better in that regard. (Better starships, too..)


Yeah, those fiber optic cables are prone to explosion, don'tcha know!

Seems to me like the 'inertial dampers' are the first thing to go 'off line' when the ship is hit
rolleye.gif


And yes, B5 was a great show too. But 'Crusade' sux ballz. :|

JC

Heh.. in B5, a Centauri warship fires its main gun on the station, and part of the front of the station actually breaks off! Imagine that! And.. in the next episode, you see crews out there fixing it! In Star Trek, ships are either completely destroyed, or they're disabled w/o power. Crews beaming inside will see all sorts of internal damage, but no visible exterior damage. When the Enterprise (or Voyager) is hit, the Engineering officer invents some technobabble and "reroutes power" to fix the problem in the nick of time.. In B5, disabled fighter ships w/o power will actually run out of air..

Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into a pro B5 anti ST thing, but the comparison is worthy of note. And yes, Crusade does blow chunks. (What's with the uniforms? They're Earthforce, so why are their uniforms different from everyone else's, and why do they change from episode to episode?)
 

WinkOsmosis

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They don't have money on earth.... who needs money when technology is so advanced that no one even has to work?
 

BillGates

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
1. The entire ship is encompassed by an interial dampener - without it, everyone would end like a splatted bug on a windshield when they went to warp, or even impulse

2. Without the dampener, subtle ship-wide movements would be lethal, so a seatbelt would just serve to slice you in half

3. People that get flung away from their station are flung not be intertial force, but rather some type of explosion or gas/energy discharge - if they were strapped it, instead of going with the force, they would be stationary and endure it... lethal

4. During times of attack, you would not want to be strapped in when an enemy beamed in... you'd be a sitting duck with bad response time

5. Most auxillary or tactical stations don't even have seats

6. Most starships are made for diplomatic or research missions, therefore the aesthetic look is prefered

7. Somebody made a comment about their clothes... the fabric is of course a space-age material designed to keep the body at a balanced temperature, while allowing breathing and proper sweat evaporation - it is probably extremely comfortable

You KNOW that guy thinks this crap is real and that those guys are out there flying around, saving the universe. Scary.

Nice Teddy
 

alkemyst

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Where do all the expendable crew members come from?

maybe the seatbelts are invisible or the seats have some sort of suction / anal retentive device.

 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: alkemyst
.. or the seats have some sort of suction / anal retentive device.

Hmm.. I guess I should take a closer look at the bridge to see if the seats are equipped with the patented Sybian(TM) inertial stabilization system. I can just see Lt. Uhura: "Hhhhaaaiiillliiinnngg ffrreeeqquennciieeess ooppppennnn, cccaaappptttaaaiiinn...."
 

Jeff7

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Originally posted by: XCLAN
prolly cuzz we are a bunch of wusssies...and they are real men? Gag i hate startrek{zips up flame proof suit}.

Get something that'll defend against phasers. ;)


Or why does every bridge officer go off on while goose chases, sending the captain into the most dangerous of situations?
TV show needs regular characters; wouldn't be easy to remember new names for each episode when the Ensigns keep getting killed as would always happen in TOS.

maybe the seatbelts are invisible or the seats have some sort of suction / anal retentive device.
Transparent aluminum restraints? :)
 

AdamK47

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Originally posted by: AU Tiger
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
What you really want to know NFS4 is why 21st century Audis have better interiors than 24th century starships ;)

The Enterprise must be a GM product

The Enterprise is made by GM. GM is the first manufacturer of warp capable vehicles. GM came into vehicle producing dominance when they crushed virtually every other manufacturer in the year 2093. The only Audis after that came in the form of hover tricycles.
 

guyver01

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Originally posted by: Deeko
so this big protective shield is still up and protecting the ship. Why is the ship getting tossed around, and why are other components getting damanged? Answer THAT one trekkies :)

because the shields absorb the "energy component" of the weapon... but there is still a physical portion to it.

those photon casings hit really hard.



 

styrafoam

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The simple answer is this: there are no space cops, so no threat of getting pulled over and getting written a space ticket for not wearing a restraint. They were intentionally left out because nobody would wear them anyways.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: guyver01
Originally posted by: Deeko
so this big protective shield is still up and protecting the ship. Why is the ship getting tossed around, and why are other components getting damanged? Answer THAT one trekkies :)

because the shields absorb the "energy component" of the weapon... but there is still a physical portion to it.

those photon casings hit really hard.

uh huh...what about the physical component of phasers??????