Star Trek, Terminator Salvation, or Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

[sao123]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I'm unwilling to spend any money on the shit that is Transformers. After the awful first movie I am no longer interested. They had their chance and blew it, I don't care if they've "fixed it." Should have got it right in the first movie. How hard is it to screw up giant battling robots?

I bolded the part where the transformers creators screwed up.

 

[smitbret]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I'm unwilling to spend any money on the shit that is Transformers. After the awful first movie I am no longer interested. They had their chance and blew it, I don't care if they've "fixed it." Should have got it right in the first movie. How hard is it to screw up giant battling robots?

I bolded the part where the transformers creators screwed up.

Yes, because that is far less probable than Klingons, Starships, anything X-men, self-aware computers and robots, time travel, Warp 6, etc., etc.

 

[smitbret]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I'm unwilling to spend any money on the shit that is Transformers. After the awful first movie I am no longer interested. They had their chance and blew it, I don't care if they've "fixed it." Should have got it right in the first movie. H?

You gave Star Trek a chance after eight of the first nine and four bad television series blew it, didnt you.

 

[Aikouka]

I'm not stoked in fanboy-ism about any of the three movies that you mentioned. I will most likely be seeing all of them anyway, but I've never been a huge Star Trek fan, although the movie looks interesting. I do like Terminator, but I'm not sure exactly where the series is going now and for all I know, it will just be another action flick. Transformers... well, I'm a nerd that used to wake up at 6 AM as a kid just to watch the TV show, which means I most likely hated the first movie ( humans played a very small role in the TV show, but played a very large role in the movie 😕 ). I enjoy getting out and seeing movies though, so I'll probably see all including Wolverine among others this summer.

I'm also surprised you didn't include Harry Potter as I believe that comes out the month after Transformers?

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I don't care if I see either. I do want to see Terminator though; do you think I need to see T3 first?

KT

I would probably recommend watching it as I believe the movie does continue off the ending of the third one but a couple years in the future.

Originally posted by: GundamW
90210 in Space (aka Star Trek: The Teenage Year)

Someone with the name Gundam W (assuming Gundam Wing) doesn't like the premise of emo teenagers in space... interesting 😉.

Originally posted by: meltdown75
I've never seen any Star Trek movie or episode, so I can't say I like it.

My dad was somewhat a fan of Star Trek, but I have never seen a complete Star Trek movie or episode in my entire life. My mom also has this obsession with Tribbles from Star Trek 😛.

Originally posted by: Queasy
Same. My wife and son are stoked for it as well. It sounds like they are fixing most of the problems with the first movie with Revenge of the Fallen (ie not enough screen time for the robots in general and the decepticons in general, less humans, etc).

I still want to see Star Trek and Terminator: Salvation but we will only go to so many movies now because of how ridiculous prices for theaters have gotten.

No Dinobots = we have a problem.

Also, I'm fairly certain that Wheelie wasn't a Decepticon, but actually an Autobot, but don't quote me on that 😛.

 

[meltdown75]

n/m

 

[TheNinja]

Transformers, simply b/c I've loved them ever since I was a kid. It was this movie that made me buy my new HD TV. Watching it on a little TV pissed me off and I could hardly read the words...went out the next day and bought a new TV 🙂

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Queasy
Same. My wife and son are stoked for it as well. It sounds like they are fixing most of the problems with the first movie with Revenge of the Fallen (ie not enough screen time for the robots in general and the decepticons in general, less humans, etc).

I still want to see Star Trek and Terminator: Salvation but we will only go to so many movies now because of how ridiculous prices for theaters have gotten.

No Dinobots = we have a problem.

Also, I'm fairly certain that Wheelie wasn't a Decepticon, but actually an Autobot, but don't quote me on that 😛.

Yes, but they have the Constructicons/Devestator and Jetfire as a SR71-Blackbird. I'm not going to comment on Wheelie because it will give out spoilers.

However, I'm very happy that Frank Welker gets to voice Soundwave.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: smitbret

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I'm unwilling to spend any money on the shit that is Transformers. After the awful first movie I am no longer interested. They had their chance and blew it, I don't care if they've "fixed it." Should have got it right in the first movie. How hard is it to screw up giant battling robots?

I bolded the part where the transformers creators screwed up.

Yes, because that is far less probable than Klingons, Starships, anything X-men, self-aware computers and robots, time travel, Warp 6, etc., etc.

These aren't supposed to be realistic movies. Transformers is about two races of sentient machines from a distant machine world who have decided for some reason to come to the planet earth and battle each other here. Why? Who knows? Who cares? It's fun. Unfortunately the first movie sucked and because of that I don't trust this one to not suck.

Originally posted by: smitbret
You gave Star Trek a chance after eight of the first nine and four bad television series blew it, didnt you.

I'd like to know which four of the five TV series you'd say "blew it." In reality, three of the five were successful enough to have full 7-season runs, and the Original Series, despite being canceled, was still good enough to lead to six movies and four subsequent spin-off TV series, one of which had four movies of its own. Looking beyond commercial success, it's my own personal opinion that the first three of the five (original series, next generation, and DS9) were the best, and the last two (Voyager and Enterprise) were not so good. Obviously everyone's opinion will vary but you can't claim that any of them blew it except Enterprise.

As for the movies, you may have only liked 2, but most people would agree that at least 6 and 8 were also worth watching. Admittedly, there have been some pretty bad Star Trek movies. I'll admit I enjoy Star Trek enough to enjoy even the mediocre movies. But at least three of them were pretty good.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Yes, but they have the Constructicons/Devestator and Jetfire as a SR71-Blackbird. I'm not going to comment on Wheelie because it will give out spoilers.

However, I'm very happy that Frank Welker gets to voice Soundwave.

Well, it is nice to finally having a combination set of Transformers and isn't Jetfire the other name for Skyfire... the one that was in the one Transformers (animated) movie? Not the one with the volcano and crazy native girl with the funny accent.

They need to let Welker voice Megatron like he should have from the start.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Queasy
Yes, but they have the Constructicons/Devestator and Jetfire as a SR71-Blackbird. I'm not going to comment on Wheelie because it will give out spoilers.

However, I'm very happy that Frank Welker gets to voice Soundwave.

Well, it is nice to finally having a combination set of Transformers and isn't Jetfire the other name for Skyfire... the one that was in the one Transformers (animated) movie? Not the one with the volcano and crazy native girl with the funny accent.

Yeah, he was called Skyfire in the cartoon but Jetfire in the comics.

I still have the original Jetfire/Skyfire toy. 🙂 Well, I should say that my son has him now.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Queasy
Yes, but they have the Constructicons/Devestator and Jetfire as a SR71-Blackbird. I'm not going to comment on Wheelie because it will give out spoilers.

However, I'm very happy that Frank Welker gets to voice Soundwave.

Well, it is nice to finally having a combination set of Transformers and isn't Jetfire the other name for Skyfire... the one that was in the one Transformers (animated) movie? Not the one with the volcano and crazy native girl with the funny accent.

Yeah, he was called Skyfire in the cartoon but Jetfire in the comics.

I still have the original Jetfire/Skyfire toy. 🙂 Well, I should say that my son has him now.

You shouldn't have given them to your son yet, as it could be worth quite a bit of change one day. I cringe when I think about my old GI Joes, and Star War figures I once had.

 

[zinfamous]

Are you joking?

this should be no contest.

I'd expect:

2:1 Terminator over Star Trek

0 votes for transformers (though I know I'm wrong on that one).

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Mikey
Terminator, of course! Transformers looks preposterously awful!

fixed

 

[thegimp03]

Terminator and Transformers...Couldn't care less about Star Trek, was never into it.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I don't care if I see either. I do want to see Terminator though; do you think I need to see T3 first?

KT

I think T3 has been excised from the canon of Terminator..."lore." I don't hate it like most, it's guilty pleasure, but it's certainly inferior to everything else to come from the story.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: zerocool84

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Saga

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I don't care if I see either. I do want to see Terminator though; do you think I need to see T3 first?

KT

I just rolled laughing at this question.

Only do this if you want to be amazed at how far we've come. T3 was an absolute train wreck and I'm sure everyone involved in the production has been ashamed of it ever since.

Ok, I assumed it would kind of suck, but are there any story points I need to get from it?

KT

No there's really no story you're going to miss. you can see it if you want. It's a decent action movie with some cool scenes but not a good movie as a whole. I would watch it just to watch it though. Last movie he starred in before coming the Governator.

Cool, thanks. :beer:

KT

Kristana Lokken = millionX hotter than Megan Fox.
it's worth it just for that.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I don't care if I see either. I do want to see Terminator though; do you think I need to see T3 first?

KT

I think T3 has been excised from the canon of Terminator..."lore." I don't hate it like most, it's guilty pleasure, but it's certainly inferior to everything else to come from the story.

So much conflicting information. Aikouka said it continues form the story, but others say it does not! Guess I should just rent it and see for myself.

KT

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Koing
I'm a big transformers fan so I can't wait for it 😀

Koing

My wife and son are stoked for it as well. It sounds like they are fixing most of the problems with the first movie

Negative.

Michael Bay is still involved, and that is easily the number 1 problem by a MILE.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: smitbret

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
I'm unwilling to spend any money on the shit that is Transformers. After the awful first movie I am no longer interested. They had their chance and blew it, I don't care if they've "fixed it." Should have got it right in the first movie. How hard is it to screw up giant battling robots?

I bolded the part where the transformers creators screwed up.

Yes, because that is far less probable than Klingons, Starships, anything X-men, self-aware computers and robots, time travel, Warp 6, etc., etc.

has nothing to do with believeablity. it has EVERYTHING to do with terrible, vomit-inducing presentation that inspired many to blind themselves such that they would never fall victim to such a horrible assault on their decent taste again. probably one of the worst assaults on our current cultural output over the previous decade.

Transformers was fucking AWFUL. that's the issue.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I don't care if I see either. I do want to see Terminator though; do you think I need to see T3 first?

KT

I think T3 has been excised from the canon of Terminator..."lore." I don't hate it like most, it's guilty pleasure, but it's certainly inferior to everything else to come from the story.

So much conflicting information. Aikouka said it continues form the story, but others say it does not! Guess I should just rent it and see for myself.

KT

iirc, the story will continue more from the current TV series. early on in season 1 (which started a few years before T3), they time-traveled to ~7 years in the future (current day), and therefore skipped the events of T3.

However, some of the elements in the T3 story were retained in the series (Sarah Conner's fate, especially--which she managed to "skip" by time traveling in the series).

If anything, I imagine they'll try to operate on a line of parallel realities? lame and cliche but whatever...

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I don't care if I see either. I do want to see Terminator though; do you think I need to see T3 first?

KT

I think T3 has been excised from the canon of Terminator..."lore." I don't hate it like most, it's guilty pleasure, but it's certainly inferior to everything else to come from the story.

So much conflicting information. Aikouka said it continues form the story, but others say it does not! Guess I should just rent it and see for myself.

KT

iirc, the story will continue more from the current TV series. early on in season 1 (which started a few years before T3), they time-traveled to ~7 years in the future (current day), and therefore skipped the events of T3.

However, some of the elements in the T3 story were retained in the series (Sarah Conner's fate, especially--which she managed to "skip" by time traveling in the series).

If anything, I imagine they'll try to operate on a line of parallel realities? lame and cliche but whatever...

Thanks zin, I'm even more confused now! :laugh:

Have yet to see the TV show, but I'll pick up T3 and go with that for now.

:beer:

KT

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I don't care if I see either. I do want to see Terminator though; do you think I need to see T3 first?

KT

I think T3 has been excised from the canon of Terminator..."lore." I don't hate it like most, it's guilty pleasure, but it's certainly inferior to everything else to come from the story.

So much conflicting information. Aikouka said it continues form the story, but others say it does not! Guess I should just rent it and see for myself.

KT

iirc, the story will continue more from the current TV series. early on in season 1 (which started a few years before T3), they time-traveled to ~7 years in the future (current day), and therefore skipped the events of T3.

However, some of the elements in the T3 story were retained in the series (Sarah Conner's fate, especially--which she managed to "skip" by time traveling in the series).

If anything, I imagine they'll try to operate on a line of parallel realities? lame and cliche but whatever...

Thanks zin, I'm even more confused now! :laugh:

Have yet to see the TV show, but I'll pick up T3 and go with that for now.

:beer:

KT

I have it on HD DVD...it was like 5 bucks!

I'd Netflix the first season of SCC too if I were you. or hulu it. there are several issues in both seasons that I expect to be somewhat relevant to the new flick....though I honestly don't know if the SCC and screenwriters collaborated some 3-4 years ago when Salvation was initially being conceived; which I'm guessing would have been well before many of the story elements in the series were finalized.

so who knows, maybe the fact that the screenplay for Salvation was produced before the TV series is a bit more crucial.

 

[lokiju]

Originally posted by: newb111
Terminator
Star Trek








V
V
V

Transformers

Exactly like this for me.


I'll see Transformers at some point, but might not be in the theater.

I liked the first one but it was by no means a great movie that made me eager to see the next.

 

[lupi]

probably ST as #1, the transformer looking things in terminator kinda worries me.

 

[Agentbolt]

Transformers by a huge margin. I'm sure I'll also love Terminator Salvation AND the new Star Trek movie as well though. It's a good summer to be a nerd about giant machines and outer space shit.