zerocool84
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I enjoyed the movie as well but there was too much wrong to give it that good of a score. I tell people it was a fun movie to watch but be prepared to get confused many times during the movie.
I never really watched any star trek and I don't watch movies looking for plot holes, so I found the movie to be very much enjoyable.
I always considered myself to be a Star Wars guy and thought Star Trek was for geeks, but this movie was great.
I always considered myself to be a Star Wars guy and thought Star Trek was for geeks, but this movie was great.
Which has what to do with the creators of Enterprise saying it was not part of regular Star Trek continuity?
Might be mentioned on Wikipedia page, will search later when not on my phone. It was on the main ST site, in magazine and newspaper articles discussing the show before it came out, et cetera. Will post what I find in this thread later.
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Synomenon
Lifer
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lupi
Lifer
- Apr 8, 2001
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Haven't seen it yet, but how does the events/plot of the movie effect possible (yeah right given opening weekend sales) sequels. Are we now stuck in this other reality?
As for the shield discussion, a somewhat common aspect on shields is that they are primarily an anti energy defense. They'll stop some or dispense the effect on kinetic type weapons, but the take a much larger hit when doing so which is a reason most combat ship designs contain weapons of both types.
As for the shield discussion, a somewhat common aspect on shields is that they are primarily an anti energy defense. They'll stop some or dispense the effect on kinetic type weapons, but the take a much larger hit when doing so which is a reason most combat ship designs contain weapons of both types.
lupi
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So I just read that interview with the writers. They said they didn't want to effect anything with the history of the franchise.....so they went this route?
I guess it's ok if you're 16, never viewed any of the tv series, and only caught a glimpse or two of the old movies on a tv re-run.
But I don't exactly get how you are protecting the property by totally ignoring it and writing anew. The amounts to tossing all the old scripts into the river and saying they're safe there. Oh well, guess we can't really tell how this will work out till another movie or so.
I guess it's ok if you're 16, never viewed any of the tv series, and only caught a glimpse or two of the old movies on a tv re-run.
But I don't exactly get how you are protecting the property by totally ignoring it and writing anew. The amounts to tossing all the old scripts into the river and saying they're safe there. Oh well, guess we can't really tell how this will work out till another movie or so.
polarmystery
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- Aug 21, 2005
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I thought that when they were escaping the black hole's gravity at the end and they said, "Why aren't we going into warp? We are" was a very clever line from a quantum mechanics point of view.
I really thought it was good. The kind of complaints I would be pulling out reminded me of that article in The Onion. In a way it was more 'action packed' or 'entertaining' than I would expect Trek to be. I grew up on TNG, and that's just the style I'm used to. Comparatively the new movie seems pretty fast paced. Not necessarily a bad thing at all, just not what I expect when I hear "Star Trek." That said, I thought it was an enjoyable movie, seemed like it would make sense to non-fans and had some little treats in there for the fans too. Those complaining about the time line, what can you do? Inevitably not everyone is going to be happy. I think this was a good work around for having to deal with canon issues. I particularly liked the line towards the end that was something like- "whatever your lives would have been, the future is different now"...the actual line is escaping me at the moment. I think it made good reference to what once was (TOS) and what could be (the future of Trek)...
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I saw the movie a second time with friends. The movie's plot holes actually aren't that bad now - the only big one being the complete lack of ships around Vulcan to shoot down the mining laser.
dr150
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LOL on Kirk becoming Captain so quickly.
YES HE CAN! YES HE CAN! :laugh:
I had to turn my brain off on that one. Pike didn't announce to anybody who was #1 and #2. No officer even questioned Kirk as #2 after all the shenanigans he pulled--he wasn't even an official crew member.
There's no way a cadet can become captain like that. Maybe if the whole command structure died, but not in the way the movie portrayed.
Still a fun movie.
I think they did a great job. I am a huuuuge Star Trek Nerd and was dreading this movie and how it would piss in the face of established Trek. But I was thuroughly impressed. The did time travel, BUT there were vast and huge consiquences from it.
As far as the chemistry, I think there was, and there shouldn't be an instant chemistry between most of them because they are just meeting. I think Bones and Kirk hit it off well together, Kirk and Young Spock, didn't hit it off together because they are supposed to grow the friendship after old Spock tells Kirk about them. I thought the Chemistry between Nimoy and Pine was great and showed that the friendship spanned time and realities.
Best line in the movie though is (paraphrased):
Cadet:Maybe you can't count, but there's 4 of us and 1 of you.
Kirk: Maybe you should go get some more friends to make this a fair fight.
It didn't nullify anything. It is an alternate reality. If you are a true Sci-fi geek you would understand this and be ok with it, if you're not a geek and were not a star Trek fan to begin with then what's the big deal, it's all new to you.
Well there can still be a Search for Spock ANd a Voyage home, the events will just play out differently. They can still meet Khan on the Botany Bay and exhile him to a planet, but in order to pull off the Wrath of Khan, the cast is going to have to wait 14 years or so. I think this is a good way to explore the Kirk, Spock, McCoy relationship and give us more stories, I just hope we get the following movies with a little more depth to the story. I loved that trek finally had big space battles, but I really want to see stories with personal internal conflicts and moral dilemas. Not oh noes it's a bad guy what do we do.
PlasmaBomb
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- Nov 19, 2004
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Man, I loved the hell out of it. Very fun! It's intense, and emotional. Thought the casting was superb.
PlasmaBomb
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Google is failing me right now, due to there being thousands of hits screaming about "Enterprise" and "continuity" due to the new movie. I will see if I can dig it up in the official site archives.
PlasmaBomb
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The Pike slugs weren't dropped. He is in a wheelchair at the end of the film. Presumably because the slugs paralysed him (at least that's what I like to think).
Poor guy can't catch a break
I suppose at least he doesn't have to beep in this time line...
PlasmaBomb
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