Star Trek (2009) - OFFICIAL REVIEW THREAD

[Agentbolt]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
I really enjoyed this movie.

Though some things really did annoy me. Where did Spock get the wood for the fire? Why couldn't the enterprise shoot the mining laser itself? Why did the missiles hit the enterprise but afterwards Sulu still mentions that the shield is still at 30%.

Overall, I thought the ride was incredible and hope they make a sequel soon.

Preferably with more space battles. I thought the space battles were too few, I was expecting a really epic battle, but they just warped into a graveyard without the pretty explosions.

Shields never make sense. In Star Trek OR Star Wars. Sometimes they're portrayed as this big protective bubble around the ship, other times they fit like a skin. Sometimes they can stop physical contact with other things, sometimes they only stop energy weapons. I had really hoped Abrahams was going to fix all of that and make the space battles actually interesting, but no dice. They were still lame in this one.

In fact the best space battle scene probably belongs to Nemesis, which says a lot more about how bad they usually are than how good the one in Nemesis was.

 

[Kaido]

Originally posted by: Finalnight

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: FlashG
I want more of the green chick. Who/what was Scotties side kick?

I think that's what an Ewok looks like with the hood off :shocked:

I thought he was a Jem'Hadar, lol. And i think you meant a Jawa.

Er yup, edited! Was thinking Jawa, wrote Ewok haha.

 

[child of wonder]

I've been a Star Trek fan ever since my dad showed me some episodes 20+ years ago. This movie gets 8.5/10 from me. Good film, good action, good character development. What prevented it from getting a 9 or better was how it felt like a teenager's wet dream.

As others have said, all the cadets on the new flagship? Pike making Kirk first officer behind Spock? A 25 year old Kirk being handed the keys to the flagship at the end? WTF?? A supernova that could destroy the galaxy? What?

A fun ride, but plot holes up the ass.

 

[UpgradeFailure]

Originally posted by: child of wonder
I've been a Star Trek fan ever since my dad showed me some episodes 20+ years ago. This movie gets 8.5/10 from me. Good film, good action, good character development. What prevented it from getting a 9 or better was how it felt like a teenager's wet dream.

As others have said, all the cadets on the new flagship? Pike making Kirk first officer behind Spock? A 25 year old Kirk being handed the keys to the flagship at the end? WTF?? A supernova that could destroy the galaxy? What?

A fun ride, but plot holes up the ass.

If you can accept time travel and alternate realities then you should be able to accept all that other stuff too. That's how I look at it. It's like when I watch Lost. If I can accept the Smoke Monster, I shouldn't be bugged by any of the other plot holes and annoyances

 

[stag3]

awesome flick, gonna watch it again,
but sylar getting it on with uhura, did not see that one coming rofl

 

[amddude]

The time travel is the biggest hole of all. Why didn't Spock simply go to work making design plans (or flat out building) his super ship, keep romulus from being destroyed, and the plot line would instantly be corrected, instead of Spock being mac daddy of the new vulcan colony.

 

[conehead433]

Saw this in the theater today and thought it was a good, but not great movie. I thought the actors playing the various original ST characters sort of looked similar to who they were supposed to be except for Chekov, who in no way resembled the original except for the attempted Russian accent. The movie gave us a brief glimpse of Kirk and Spock growing up, as well as their conflict at the Academy. I never really felt any empathy for the Nero character as the movie revealed at a late stage why he was bent on destroying Vulcan and the Federation. With the lack of character development with Nero's character he seemed to me to be only slightly better than the villian in Nemesis, one of the worst of the ST movies ever. The music for the film at times didn't seem to fit at all. Sylar was perfect as a young Spock.
This was my first theater movie experience since The Return Of The King, in large part because I have my own home theater with a 129" diagonal screen and prefer to watch movies at home. I look forward to seeing it again when it comes out on Blu-ray. This movie may rate somewhat higher with those who aren't so familiar with the Original Series characters, although I think it still may be one of the top five ST movies made.

 

[tfcmasta97]

Never been a Star Trek fan, [never gave it a chance, just never been into the whole sci-fi genre], havent seen any other Star Trek movie,

Saw the movie today, loved it, thought it was great, 8.5 or 9/10 is most def a fair rating [and Im a pretty hard grader], and now I may have to give the series/other movies a chance because of how much I enjoyed this one.

 

[amddude]

Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
Never been a Star Trek fan, [never gave it a chance, just never been into the whole sci-fi genre], havent seen any other Star Trek movie,

Saw the movie today, loved it, thought it was great, 8.5 or 9/10 is most def a fair rating [and Im a pretty hard grader], and now I may have to give the series/other movies a chance because of how much I enjoyed this one.

I think people who have seen little to no star trek will find this movie to be great because they haven't invested time in the decades of lore involved in the series. This movie, while a "good" movie and I'm sure a commercial success, I think largely cheapens the trek franchise as a whole.

 

[conehead433]

I forgot to mention that I was a taken back a little by the introduction of several new apparent alien species. I kept expecting to see some ewoks and maybe some aliens playing muzak in a space lounge, WTF was up with that?

 

[Jesusthewererabbit]

It was excellent. A complete reboot like this was the only way to handle it after the abortion that was Enterprise. The Wrath of Khan and First Contact are still by far the best of the movies, but I would say this one ties with Undiscovered Country for third.

Would anyone else like to see how Kirk and Spock handle the Borg? Now is our chance!

 

[ProfJohn]

The only reason the Federations runs into the Borg is due to Q sending them half way across the galaxy. Without Q showing up the borg are probably 100+ years away from Fed space.

 

[lupi]

the star trek skit during SNL news update tonight was pretty hilarious.

 

[Jadow]

Originally posted by: Imp

Originally posted by: Finalnight

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: FlashG
I want more of the green chick. Who/what was Scotties side kick?

I think that's what an Ewok looks like with the hood off :shocked:

I thought he was a Jem'Hadar, lol. And i think you meant a Jawa.

He looked more like the guys from the beginning of Nemesis where they find the second/prototype Data.

I thought he looked like a really short version of the dude Kirk kicked in the knees (balls) in VI

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
But there is one bright spot. Khan is now alive and well on Ceti Alpha VI and they can now remake the Wrath of Khan with all the new and shinny special effects

Incorrect sir, Kahn is still floating frozen on the SS Botany Bay!

 

[Jadow]

Originally posted by: amddude
The time travel is the biggest hole of all. Why didn't Spock simply go to work making design plans (or flat out building) his super ship, keep romulus from being destroyed, and the plot line would instantly be corrected, instead of Spock being mac daddy of the new vulcan colony.

LOL, I'm pumped that he is though, it leaves it wide open for him to return in the next movie.

 

[Jadow]

Do you think the Spock will use his knowledge of 24th century technology to rapidly advance the 23rd century 100 years?

Also, the Nokia ringtone was funny, but totally lame.

 

[imported_Imp]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The only reason the Federations runs into the Borg is due to Q sending them half way across the galaxy. Without Q showing up the borg are probably 100+ years away from Fed space.

You forget that they might use the First Contact story combined with "Enterprise"'s (TV series) development where they send a subspace signal to the delta quadrant. If that magically gets there now, the Borg will just have to transwarp their way over, or take one of their sunspace/transwarp hubs. Maybe they'll send more than one cube this time around; they sent at least 5 to assimilate a single planet in Voyager.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: Jadow
Do you think the Spock will use his knowledge of 24th century technology to rapidly advance the 23rd century 100 years?

Also, the Nokia ringtone was funny, but totally lame.

He already did.... he gave scotty the formula for Warp Drive Beaming...


woah! my first time warp

 

[Finalnight]

Originally posted by: Imp

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The only reason the Federations runs into the Borg is due to Q sending them half way across the galaxy. Without Q showing up the borg are probably 100+ years away from Fed space.

You forget that they might use the First Contact story combined with "Enterprise"'s (TV series) development where they send a subspace signal to the delta quadrant. If that magically gets there now, the Borg will just have to transwarp their way over, or take one of their sunspace/transwarp hubs. Maybe they'll send more than one cube this time around; they sent at least 5 to assimilate a single planet in Voyager.

First Contact also created the Mirror Universe as it caused a more militant approach to space due to the premature encounter with a hostile species (the borg).

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

So you really think JJA threw away the entire Star Trek timeline as we knew it?

Its. Called. An. Alternate. Universe.

Link to help you understand.

 

[alrocky]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
But I am NOT willing to believe that:
That a super nova could threaten the galaxy or even destroy a planet in an adjacent system. That Spock could watch the destruction of Vulcan for a near by planet, even one in the same system as Vulcan. If Mars blew up today the only thing I would notice is one less red dot in the sky tonight.

I think all these little illogical events add up till your mind says 'whatever'

A Federation Outpost on a planet close enough for Spock to witness the demise of Vulcan? A bit hard to swallow.

We have 2 Federation planets under attack but no mention of any ships guarding said planets.

Didn't think a planet with a black hole would collapse like that.

Klingon version of Wolf 359 and Uhura doesn't pass it along and or Starfleet doesn't care?

One question for ya'll though - why was the Nimoy Spock sitting in a cave waiting for young Kirk to show up instead of going to the Federation Outpost and trying to stop the destruction of Vulcan? I must be off on my timeline of the movie or something but I thought he was "stranded" there so he could witness the destruction of his planet? So couldn't he jog over to the outpost, hop a shuttle, and try to do something?

He may not know or remember that the Outpost was there. This timeline was altered 25 years ago.

Enjoyed the new Enterprise crew but didn't care for whacking Sylar's mum and the whole bloody planet. The mind meld voice over back story sounded un-Spock-like. At least it wasn't to long.

 

[ProfJohn]

^ I believe it was Spock who told Kirk about the outpost in the movie, although he heard about it from the escape pod too.

Let's face it, there were a TON of plot holes that distract from what was otherwise a very good movie.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Jadow
Do you think the Spock will use his knowledge of 24th century technology to rapidly advance the 23rd century 100 years?

Also, the Nokia ringtone was funny, but totally lame.

He already did.... he gave scotty the formula for Warp Drive Beaming...


woah! my first time warp

And apparently the technology to beam through shields.

 

[zerocool84]

Some of you guys are giving an 8/10 or 9/10 but siting plot holes galore. Doesn't compute.

 

[hofan41]

way way WAY worse than the reviews suggested. this movie definitely did not deserve the 90+% on rottentomatoes. it all started going downhill when old spock was able to wave off mega-giant snow monster with a freaking torch. COME ON NOW!