Star Craft II graphics, and do they matter?

[bunnyfubbles]

lol perfectly fine?

ya cause 640x480 is totally chill...

maybe you have to be a huge RTS whore, but I'm never distracted by the old graphics whenever I go back and play SC

 

[blurredvision]

so basically,

everyone playing competitively should be doing 16:9 to maximize how much they see. 4:3 seems like a recipe for death

That's what I got out of it.

I watched that 1080p video, and I think it looks pretty good for what it is. Having not seen SC1 in action in quite a few years, SC2 doesn't look much different than what's in my head for SC1, but I realize the graphical upgrades that are present. The 3D portraits look pretty amazing on their own.

 

[evident]

whine more about sc2, but its gonna be the best game ever

 

[Maximilian]

whine more about sc2, but its gonna be the best game ever

You said it kikoman

 

[Pr0d1gy]

RTS graphics don't matter at all. You have to play them at such an elavated view it really doesn't mean much if your space marine is showing true blacks, pixelated, etc. Sure it should look better than the old SC, and hopefully it will be on par with Dawn of War's graphics at least.

 

[soccerballtux]

so basically,

everyone playing competitively should be doing 16:9 to maximize how much they see. 4:3 seems like a recipe for death

That's what I got out of it.

I watched that 1080p video, and I think it looks pretty good for what it is. Having not seen SC1 in action in quite a few years, SC2 doesn't look much different than what's in my head for SC1, but I realize the graphical upgrades that are present. The 3D portraits look pretty amazing on their own.

16:10 is what you want, you'll have more vertical view. 1200 pixels. The 16:9 guys will only have 1080 pixels.

 

[JJChicken]

Graphics somewhat matter...anyone know if they implement the hero unit feature from Warcraft 3? Also customizeable...lol SC2 Dota!

SC2 Dota would be awesome. BTW Icefrog is working with Valve to release a stand-alone DotA game. You should check out www.playdota.com/forums

 

[Fenixgoon]

SC2 Dota would be awesome. BTW Icefrog is working with Valve to release a stand-alone DotA game. You should check out www.playdota.com/forums

LoL? league of legends i mean

 

[JJChicken]

LoL? league of legends i mean

LoL is not bad from what I hear (at least its not a full copy like HoN). Its made by Guinsoo (the DotA map creator before Icefrog). However, Icefrog is so so much better than Guinsoo. He's now leading a team at Valve, hopefully they can create an awesome DotA game which has a strong competitive scene.

 

[Pia]

aspect ratio scaling

What the hell? Why are they optimizing for 16:9 when this is a PC game and 16:10 screens are overwhelmingly more common (not to mention superior resolution and quality)? As a top-down game there isn't even any real point to widescreen.

(http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ - 1920x1200 + 1680x1050 screens together are about 25% whereas 1920x1080 is a measly 8%)

 

[Qbah]

I find it unacceptable to release a game in 2010+ with bad graphics. If Blizzard wants to show they are true masters at making PC games, those games should not only have a great story but also have amazing graphics. And yes, we know blizzard CGI cutscenes are amazing. They already proved that in their games.

I'm sure SC2 will have an epic story and great cutscenes. It just needs to follow with interesting gameplay and amazing graphics.

As for the aspect ratio... If I would play the game, it would be on my 16:9 HDTV anyway So I don't mind

 

[Maximilian]

What the hell? Why are they optimizing for 16:9 when this is a PC game and 16:10 screens are overwhelmingly more common (not to mention superior resolution and quality)? As a top-down game there isn't even any real point to widescreen.

(http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ - 1920x1200 + 1680x1050 screens together are about 25% whereas 1920x1080 is a measly 8%)

Because 16:10 screens arent more common, not anymore, get with the times its all about 16:9 now

 

[Anubis]

get with the times its all about 16:9 now

for stupid people maybe

 

[crisium]

Actually, I'm annoyed at 16:9 being the optimal resolution as well. It really should be 16:10, and I don't even have that aspect monitor. Making it 16:9 makes 4:3 suffer even more compared to the optimal, and 5:4 will be outright terrible for this game (as it often is for FPS, but this is RTS). If 16:10 were optimal, then 16:9 would only be slightly worse (a bit less vertical viewing space), and 4:3 while still very inferior would be better off than as it is currently in SC2.

I still use a CRT, and 16:9 on it is fine for FPS (1080 looks great, and is a reasonable size). But for RTS, 16:9 on this is simply too small. I've been running replays on the SC2 beta at 1680x1050 because for my CRT which must letterbox; 16:9 is too small. So yeah, I'm only gonna take a little hit in horizontal viewing space; I'll live. But for those who play in 4:3 or, god forbid, 5:4 they will utterly suffer.

And er, that's why I think 16:10 should be the ideal for this game. That way, the worst resolutions (5:4 and 4:3) are less worse relative to 16:9 being optimal.

But we need to remember that video game companies don't really pay attention to aspect ratio a lot. Even Bioshock 2 launched with 4:3 being ideal, despite the same thing happening in August 2007 with the original and then being patched. Blizzard must simply think "widescreen will be ideal for this game" without thinking about which widescreen hurts less users overall (that would be 16:10, again it hurts 4:3 and 5:4 users much less).

 

[Bulldog13]

I'm annoyed its SC1 with a tit job. Jesus I might as well fire up Dune 2 for my genesis for all of the innovation its going to bring to the table.

 

[Pia]

Because 16:10 screens arent more common, not anymore, get with the times its all about 16:9 now

Your claim is kind of a non sequitur after I specifically explained 16:10 is about three times more common as 16:9, as of Jan 2010, according to the Steam HW survey. What's your source?

 

[Maximilian]

Your claim is kind of a non sequitur after I specifically explained 16:10 is about three times more common as 16:9, as of Jan 2010, according to the Steam HW survey. What's your source?

I dont need a source, i know that the current trend is leaning towards 16:9 screens, like it or not thats the way it is im afraid :/

 

[soccerballtux]

I dont need a source, i know that the current trend is leaning towards 16:9 screens, like it or not thats the way it is im afraid :/

it's a manufacturing trend that's all
so we have to buy it.

 

[borisvodofsky]

I'm playing it right now... And crying because it's not as good as I was hoping for. :OIWHFIO:WHgio;awerg

 

[evident]

I'm annoyed its SC1 with a tit job. Jesus I might as well fire up Dune 2 for my genesis for all of the innovation its going to bring to the table.

did you feel the same way about CS 1.6 -> CS Source?

While i didn't like CS at all i thought that it made sense to port it to better graphics due to its huge following.

SC2 will definitely be more than just a CS Source.

What else do you want from a RTS? This game is not going to fail. Before SC came out, everyone bitched because it was delayed two years. Before D2 came out, everyone bitched. Before War3 came out, everyone bitched. Are they still bitching now???? With blizzard's track record, they deserve all the (reasonable) time they need.

 

[IEC]

For everyone complaining that SC2 is just a rehash of SC1 - have you even tried playing? The strategies and tactics are so different. Sure at a noob level the mass T1 unit rush still works, but there is an effective counter to everything.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I'm playing it right now... And crying because it's not as good as I was hoping for. :OIWHFIO:WHgio;awerg

you're playing a multiplayer only BETA. the single player is a huge part of starcraft.

 

[IEC]

you're playing a multiplayer only BETA. the single player is a huge part of starcraft.

Agreed. Unless Fenix rises from the ashes (again) I look forward to avenging his death.