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Mermaidman

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Hmm--The UPS looks tempting. Haven't seen a deal for one of those in a while, and I need one.
 

Tsunami982

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Hmm--The UPS looks tempting. Haven't seen a deal for one of those in a while, and I need one.

it does look tempting, ive always wanted a ups... and the electrical wiring in my house is shot so its probably a decent investment.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Hmm--The UPS looks tempting. Haven't seen a deal for one of those in a while, and I need one.

It's only a 350VA, you might not want to bother. That would be ok as a secondary UPS to power computer accessories like an inkjet printer, cablemodem, router, etc., but not for a decently-powered primary PC these days. Go for something at least 450-500VA. Either that, or connect nothing but the PC to it (no monitor, no accessories), and make sure to shut your computer down as soon as you lose power for more than a few seconds, because I doubt that UPS would hold up for more than 1-2 mins at most.
 

Buz2b

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Hmm--The UPS looks tempting. Haven't seen a deal for one of those in a while, and I need one.

It's only a 350VA, you might not want to bother. That would be ok as a secondary UPS to power computer accessories like an inkjet printer, cablemodem, router, etc., but not for a decently-powered primary PC these days. Go for something at least 450-500VA. Either that, or connect nothing but the PC to it (no monitor, no accessories), and make sure to shut your computer down as soon as you lose power for more than a few seconds, because I doubt that UPS would hold up for more than 1-2 mins at most.

Actually, I have a 350 VA model (similar model) and I just plug my 19" CRT and tower into it. If the power goes out I have it set to automatically shut things down after one minute. The rest of my equipment (printer, router, cable modem, etc) are all plugged into a separate surge protector. I've had probably three power loss situations and each time it has worked just fine. No, you can't expect it to run things for 10 minutes and if that's what you want, look elsewhere. But as long as you have the software installed that shuts things down fairly quick, it works like a champ.
 

batmanuel

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Hmm--The UPS looks tempting. Haven't seen a deal for one of those in a while, and I need one.

It's only a 350VA, you might not want to bother. That would be ok as a secondary UPS to power computer accessories like an inkjet printer, cablemodem, router, etc., but not for a decently-powered primary PC these days. Go for something at least 450-500VA. Either that, or connect nothing but the PC to it (no monitor, no accessories), and make sure to shut your computer down as soon as you lose power for more than a few seconds, because I doubt that UPS would hold up for more than 1-2 mins at most.

I'm looking at it as an option to keep my cable modem and router up and running for a while during a power failure so I can access the web via laptop if necessary. Assuming that the power failure doesn't knock out my cable company's local hub, that is.
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: Buz2b
Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Hmm--The UPS looks tempting. Haven't seen a deal for one of those in a while, and I need one.

It's only a 350VA, you might not want to bother. That would be ok as a secondary UPS to power computer accessories like an inkjet printer, cablemodem, router, etc., but not for a decently-powered primary PC these days. Go for something at least 450-500VA. Either that, or connect nothing but the PC to it (no monitor, no accessories), and make sure to shut your computer down as soon as you lose power for more than a few seconds, because I doubt that UPS would hold up for more than 1-2 mins at most.

Actually, I have a 350 VA model (similar model) and I just plug my 19" CRT and tower into it. If the power goes out I have it set to automatically shut things down after one minute. The rest of my equipment (printer, router, cable modem, etc) are all plugged into a separate surge protector. I've had probably three power loss situations and each time it has worked just fine. No, you can't expect it to run things for 10 minutes and if that's what you want, look elsewhere. But as long as you have the software installed that shuts things down fairly quick, it works like a champ.

Hmm, really. I'm a bit honestly surprised that it will handle that load, but if it works for you, then great. :)

I'm not a UPS expert, but my understanding is that the actual power that it can supply to a load (your PC), in terms of Wattage, is somewhat significantly lower than the VA rating, because of "power factor" issues. (I'm not an EE, so I can't describe it in any more detail than that.)

I've used a "280 VA" APC unit, and it would get overloaded, just running my basic system (tower + monitor), so I was guessing a 350VA might not be that much better. I'm currently running a 450VA Tripp-Lite unit. (Which was later re-rated at 500VA by the company for reasons I don't fully understand. Their "Internet Office 450" model became the "Internet Office 500". Maybe it had a change in components or was initially slightly over-spec'ed.)

As a general rule of thumb, I figure that you need a 500VA unit for a 350-400W computer load. (Any EE's out there, please correct me if I'm off.)

By that rule of thumb, I personally reserve "lesser" UPS for secondary power back-up duty, for smaller "junk" PCs, and various external devices connected to my PCs and network.

I get about 4-5 minutes of runtime, but one time I made the mistake of shutting off the monitor while I was running on battery power, and then turned it back on again. My 15" Compaq CRT does a de-gauss on power-on, and the surge current from that overloaded the inverter on my UPS and shut it down cold, killing power to my PC in the process. Bad idea. :|

Whatever anyone does, don't connect a laser printer to a UPS. It usually says that on the box, but it's a very good thing to remember.
 

Demon-Xanth

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Check the wattage on the UPS. I bought a 450VA Energizer UPS that's rated at 200W, it can't hold up my PC and even just my 19" monitor. I sent in the $20 rebate but it appears to have disappeared. It's now a UPS for my TV and PS2/GC. They've become VERY liberal with thier VA ratings lately. The batteries are also very small, only 3.2AH@12V. The physical size is about 1.5"x2.5"x3". I estimate that if it COULD hold my PC up, it'd only keep it up for about 2 minutes max. Cheap UPSes aren't worth anything.
 

BlueWeasel

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Originally posted by: ScrapSilicon
Originally posted by: frankqfrank
any idea who makes sony DVD+R or DVD-R?

not sure on the -R but the + R ones I've been getting have been RicohJPNR01 .:D

I picked up a pack of the Sony DVD+R discs today, and they are Ricoh JPNR01 according to DVD Identifier. I just finished burning a disc at 8x using Nero with no problems.

The bottom of the spindle is light grey.
 

chadomaly

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Originally posted by: Tsunami982
it does look tempting, ive always wanted a ups... and the electrical wiring in my house is shot so its probably a decent investment.

heh might want to pick up a fire extinguisher while you're at it if your wiring is so bad you'd need to run on battery ;)
 

codeyf

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Originally posted by: spikemasta
Anyone know what speed the sony dvd+r/-r disks run at?

The +R's are good at 8x. I have some -R's too, but they only do 4x on my 812s.