SSDs - reliability?

bob4432

Lifer
Sep 6, 2003
11,727
46
91
now that ssds are much more mainstream, how is their reliability in a daily used computer/workstation?

i have an old ocz vertex 30GB that is in my htpc, only has win7 on it w/ vlc, but it rarely gets used - maybe 3-5x/wk. works fine for that role but was wondering for mainstream role.

also, are the stutters gone on the newer models?
 

Zap

Elite Member
Oct 13, 1999
22,377
7
81
Stutters have pretty much been gone since Windows 7 and drives that support Trim. Basically the only drives that stuttered bad were ones based on the Jmicron JMF602 controller. Everything since then have been okay as far as the really bad stuttering is concerned.

For reliability, can't go wrong with Intel.
 

Elixer

Lifer
May 7, 2002
10,371
762
126
Stutters have pretty much been gone since Windows 7 and drives that support Trim. Basically the only drives that stuttered bad were ones based on the Jmicron JMF602 controller. Everything since then have been okay as far as the really bad stuttering is concerned.

For reliability, can't go wrong with Intel.
For reliability, all companies have failures, and I suppose Intel may be at the top of the heap with the fewest amount, but we really don't have any data to back that claim up. The last survey I saw wasn't very scientific.

Bottom line is, whatever you purchase, you should always make backups, if the data is important.
 

bob4432

Lifer
Sep 6, 2003
11,727
46
91
i always back up, was just wondering if there was enough data yet for any studies to compare to mechanical drives.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

Diamond Member
Mar 26, 2011
4,310
8
81
Intel is the first company to go to for max reliability, but they're lacking a bit in terms of speed. I think Crucial/Micron is a good compromise between both, as they've proved to be reliable and extremely fast. I'd also recommend Corsair and Samsung.

Steer away from OCZ at all costs. Too bad you bought from them, though it's the first time I hear about stuttering problems. What I will tell you, though, is that OCZ has horrible customer service and bad reliability in comparison to other vendors, so don't buy from them again.
 

phillyman36

Golden Member
Jun 28, 2004
1,791
201
106
Intel is the first company to go to for max reliability, but they're lacking a bit in terms of speed. I think Crucial/Micron is a good compromise between both, as they've proved to be reliable and extremely fast. I'd also recommend Corsair and Samsung.

Steer away from OCZ at all costs. Too bad you bought from them, though it's the first time I hear about stuttering problems. What I will tell you, though, is that OCZ has horrible customer service and bad reliability in comparison to other vendors, so don't buy from them again.

When you say lacking in terms of speed is it something that would be noticeable in everyday usage if i don't run benchmarks? I don't play games much mostly video encoding/transcoding, copying movie files to my server. I'm trying to decide between the Intel 520 and Crucial M4(250 g versions)
 

FishAk

Senior member
Jun 13, 2010
987
0
0
There are people on this forum, who say they have run many different brands and models of SSDs. They report that there is little to no perceivable difference in actual use.
 

corkyg

Elite Member | Peripherals
Super Moderator
Mar 4, 2000
27,370
240
106
Reliability is somewhat expressed in the SSD's warranty.
 

skipsneeky2

Diamond Member
May 21, 2011
5,035
1
71
Hard to really say how reliable a ssd is maybe in 10 years we can see how many of the models from this time frame are still around .
 

phillyman36

Golden Member
Jun 28, 2004
1,791
201
106
I have a Corsair Performance 3. Everything was fine until after a couple of months the drive kept freezing. I did a secure erase and did a fresh install and everything is back to normal. I haven't heard people say anything about Intel drives (510) as far as freezing or stuttering. The M4 is cheaper but i don't want to have to reinstall my os over and over again. Just can't decide on which lol
 

imaheadcase

Diamond Member
May 9, 2005
3,850
7
76
Reliability is not a huge deal, just like speed with SSD drives. Speed wise you won't notice a difference between all the drives out currently. Reliability wise, chances are you are backing up it a lot because most get 120gig models as top sellers and they fill up fast. So in say 3+ years you would prob be upgrading anyways to something else.

Just get the best one you can afford with space as main factor.
 

Arcanedeath

Platinum Member
Jan 29, 2000
2,822
1
76
The M4 and the Intel 510/520 use the same Marvell controler and the same IMFT 25nm flash the only difference is the firmware and warrenty. Take your pick.
 

Athadeus

Senior member
Feb 29, 2004
587
0
76
There's also the argument that Intel is only not as fast on paper/synthetics, but performs as well as any in real world use which some benches show.
 

GlacierFreeze

Golden Member
May 23, 2005
1,125
1
0
There's also the argument that Intel is only not as fast on paper/synthetics, but performs as well as any in real world use which some benches show.

Exactly why I don't pay any attention to synthetic benchmarks, especially when I'm shopping for a new gaming build. Synthetic benchmarks are good in theory, but occasionally can be pretty misleading, therefore not very credible in some circumstances.
 

n7

Elite Member
Jan 4, 2004
21,281
4
81
So far, pretty good, as i've only have one die on me (of my eight - six of those are Intel).

It was my OCZ Agility 60 GB, but i did buy it used, & OCZ replaced it with a brand new one that's so far been fine.
 

Quiksilver

Diamond Member
Jul 3, 2005
4,725
0
71
I have a Corsair Performance 3. Everything was fine until after a couple of months the drive kept freezing. I did a secure erase and did a fresh install and everything is back to normal. I haven't heard people say anything about Intel drives (510) as far as freezing or stuttering. The M4 is cheaper but i don't want to have to reinstall my os over and over again. Just can't decide on which lol


I also have a Corsair Performance 3 SSD (128GB) and after worked fantastic for just barely over 3 months (were talking days here) until I encountered this freezing issue.

It would essentially hardlock the PC yet doing things like press numlock would respond yet the PC would be hardlocked (solid HDD indicator) and I would have to restart to fix it. Eventually thought it would just hardlock within 5 minutes of booting it back up. I tried messing around with some of the voltages in the BIOS to fix this issue but alas to no avail.

Then I tried the secure erase, which didn't work either. The drive would freeze midway into formatting.

So my drive will be off for RMA on monday.

Now looking at corsair forums most of the threads over there are issues with the force series drives, but there is a solid number of thread on there about this issue and many of those users are going onto their third drive for this issue.(affecting all sizes offered)

Corsair insists there isn't any problems with these drives but you know I would disagree with that but without knowing there sales figures and return rates for these drives it's hard to claim that as a fact, so it's just my opinion.
 

nickb64

Member
May 8, 2011
90
0
61
It's hard to test reliability, since you would need a good number of drives running for a decent length of time to really get a good picture of reliability, and by the time we really know, it'll be largely irrelevant because people will have moved on to newer and better things.
 

Shmee

Memory & Storage, Graphics Cards Mod Elite Member
Super Moderator
Sep 13, 2008
8,223
3,131
146
I have been quite happy and have had on problems with my agility 2.
 

badnewcastle

Golden Member
Jun 30, 2004
1,016
0
0
I'm very happy with my Vertex 3. I had 2 BSOD's but that was because I didn't change the power setting to never shut off the hard drive. It's fixed now and been rock solid, snappy as hell.

Glad I shelled out the $200.
 

imaheadcase

Diamond Member
May 9, 2005
3,850
7
76
I can't believe somebody on this forum would say this.

Well its not. Not many SSD drives fail compared to standard hard drives. Just because you see it in forums every now and then, or a couple hundred "reviews" that is still a small % based on how many they sell.
 

aceO07

Diamond Member
Nov 6, 2000
4,491
0
76
Well its not. Not many SSD drives fail compared to standard hard drives. Just because you see it in forums every now and then, or a couple hundred "reviews" that is still a small % based on how many they sell.

Probably also because they're expensive. Someone might not post about their HDD failing, but they will if their SSD does.