Ssd samsung 840 evo or intel 530

[payback123]

hello i want to buy ssd for my desktop pc i am between
SSD SAMSUNG 840 EVO 120gb and INTEL 530 120gb my motherboard supports sata2
if anybody can help me
sorry for my english

 

[Ranulf]

I would avoid the Samsung EVO drives for now. They are having a problem with slowing down after a few months with some data. If those are your two options, the intel is better.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8550/...40-evo-read-performance-bug-fix-is-on-the-way

 

[*NixUser]

Definitely avoid Samsung 840 (Evo) until there is a fix for the issue mentioned above.

The Intel SSD is probably fine.

 

[hojnikb]

Neither. Just get MX100/M500/M550 whatever you can get or is the cheapest. Alternativly adata sp920 is also a solid choice.

 

[Charlie98]

The Intel is a very good drive, I put one in one of my builds and I'm very happy with it. I would choose it over the EVO in any event.

 

[hojnikb]

The Intel is a very good drive, I put one in one of my builds and I'm very happy with it. I would choose it over the EVO in any event.

Intel 530 is an outdated drive with crappy sandforce controller. So unless its on massive sale, its really not worth buying.

 

[SPBHM]

MX100 is the only SSD I would buy today, great performance/price and no slow old files, TLC

the 840 / Evo is a very poor choice at the moment, maybe if they fix the problem with just a new firmware it can become a good option again,

 

[fire400]

850 pro; ten year warranty. the drive pays for itself.

 

[Phynaz]

Intel 530 is an outdated drive with crappy sandforce controller. So unless its on massive sale, its really not worth buying.

Some of us prefer proven reliability over the latest thing.

 

[Coup27]

Some of us prefer proven reliability over the latest thing.

The EVO was released over a year ago so it's hardly the latest thing. It has also proven to be reliable. The read bug which has taken this long to surface does not affect it's reliability, just it's performance of old files. Which, whilst annoying, is not even close to matching the SSD bugs from other manufacturers.

 

[hojnikb]

Some of us prefer proven reliability over the latest thing.

Yeah, because sandforce just screams reliability... :awe::awe::awe:
/s

 

[hojnikb]

The EVO was released over a year ago so it's hardly the latest thing. It has also proven to be reliable. The read bug which has taken this long to surface does not affect it's reliability, just it's performance of old files. Which, whilst annoying, is not even close to matching the SSD bugs from other manufacturers.

Yeah like random bsods (which would then f*ck up your work or something) or just dying like its nothing...

 

[Phynaz]

Yeah, because sandforce just screams reliability... :awe::awe::awe:
/s

You're new here, so I assume you haven't seen this;

http://techreport.com/review/26269/behind-the-scenes-with-intel-ssd-division

Or this;

http://techreport.com/review/26523/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-casualties-on-the-way-to-a-petabyte

 

[Z15CAM]

The Samsung 840 Pro 256GB - GREAT in opinion - No issues after 2 years other then Samsung Crappy Magician Software refuses to support Intel IRST Sata Raid Mode.This doesn't mean that Samsung SSD's will not do Intel Raid - It's just that the Samsung Software does not support it.

The Samsung 840 Pro seems to respond correctly using MS Diskpart n- That is in preparing the SSD.

With Samsung SSD's you"re stuck with Intel AHIC Mode under Windows - PERIOD - Unless you use the Russian Software like TRIM Tool when designating the Intel MB Chipset in Sata RAID Mode and to ensure TRIM is working - Raid Member or Not - WTF - Money and more Money stolen from the consumer.

 

[hojnikb]

You're new here, so I assume you haven't seen this;

http://techreport.com/review/26269/behind-the-scenes-with-intel-ssd-division

Or this;

http://techreport.com/review/26523/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-casualties-on-the-way-to-a-petabyte

Yeah, if something has intel badge on it, it doesnt make it good. Yeah their drives with inhouse controllers are great, but their consumer line (33x and 520/530) is just as "bad" as drives from 50 other sandforce OEMs.
Its still the same controller and firmware. Intel just has the ability to put better quality nand to them and thats about it. Stock firmware (yeah the thing about their custom firmware -- complete lie) and completly unmodified controller.

I've got couple of those sandforce based ones and they exhibit the same issues as other sandforce drive -- random bsods (yeah, you can still get those on sandforce), crappy write performance (over time atleast)...

About those links..
1st is pure PR bullcrap (intel is not the only one doing extensive QA)
2nd has nothing to do with actual reliability. Nand endurance is not the only thing, that makes an ssd reliable.

 

[Phynaz]

Yeah, if something has intel badge on it, it doesnt make it good. Yeah their drives with inhouse controllers are great, but their consumer line (33x and 520/530) is just as "bad" as drives from 50 other sandforce OEMs.
Its still the same controller and firmware.

Actually it's not, Intel writes their own firmware. It's why Intel has one of the, if not the single, most reliable drives on the market.
I see you don't have nay Intel drives, and are extrapolating from some crappy drives that used the same component and assume the Intel drives are crappy. Look through the threads here and see if anyone is getting BSOD's with Intel drives.

Do you have any links to what other manufactures are doing an equivalent amount of validation? One that isn't "PR" as you say the Intel article is?

Study up a little, read prior threads here, and let's cool down with the FUD, okay?

 

[JasonBourne]

I would recommend Crucial M550 as it costs less and gives quite near performance as Samsung ones. And about the Samsung 850 Pro, its never advisable to go with a new technology in SSDs unless you know you won't get lost. Its to avoid firmware glitches. Also the 10 year warranty is not to great help cuz if something happens after say 7 years from now, will one go and fix that SSD and put it in again ?? AT that time something much more unimaginably faster should be in the market. Would you prefer your 7 year old SSD over that tech ??

Best thing is to see the AT's "Best SSD for the month" article where you can get an idea what to get at what sizes.

Hope that helps.

 

[Charlie98]

Yeah, because sandforce just screams reliability... :awe::awe::awe:
/s

Well... it has for me. My original 64GB OCZ D: Agility3 is still working perfectly for almost 3 years now... whereas my 840Pro went belly up in less than a year.

The Samsung is a decent drive and a reasonable bargain, so is the Intel if you can get it at the same price point. Personally, I paid $10 more for the Intel 530 over the newer Samsung EVO because of my experience with the 1) dead 840Pro, and 2) their awful RMA process. Given the OP's two choices, I would take the Intel. If I was shopping the marketplace, I would probably get an MX100, even over the EVO at this point.

I have not only the 840Pro, but it's replacement, a Plextor M5Pro. In hindsight I was foolish to pay the extra money for both of those 'Pro' drives (although at the time the price difference between the 'Pro' drives vs straight consumer-level drives like the 840 and the M5S was minimal) so, unless you are using an SSD in a heavy write application, I don't see any reason to spend the money on a Pro drive, warranty not withstanding.

 

[hojnikb]

Well... it has for me. My original 64GB OCZ D: Agility3 is still working perfectly for almost 3 years now... whereas my 840Pro went belly up in less than a year.

The Samsung is a decent drive and a reasonable bargain, so is the Intel if you can get it at the same price point. Personally, I paid $10 more for the Intel 530 over the newer Samsung EVO because of my experience with the 1) dead 840Pro, and 2) their awful RMA process. Given the OP's two choices, I would take the Intel. If I was shopping the marketplace, I would probably get an MX100, even over the EVO at this point.

I have not only the 840Pro, but it's replacement, a Plextor M5Pro. In hindsight I was foolish to pay the extra money for both of those 'Pro' drives (although at the time the price difference between the 'Pro' drives vs straight consumer-level drives like the 840 and the M5S was minimal) so, unless you are using an SSD in a heavy write application, I don't see any reason to spend the money on a Pro drive, warranty not withstanding.

Well i still got my vertex2 (34nm version) and it works fine aswell. But other sandforce drives had caused me nothing but trouble (including intels).

 

[hojnikb]

Actually it's not, Intel writes their own firmware. It's why Intel has one of the, if not the single, most reliable drives on the market.
I see you don't have nay Intel drives, and are extrapolating from some crappy drives that used the same component and assume the Intel drives are crappy. Look through the threads here and see if anyone is getting BSOD's with Intel drives.

Do you have any links to what other manufactures are doing an equivalent amount of validation? One that isn't "PR" as you say the Intel article is?

Study up a little, read prior threads here, and let's cool down with the FUD, okay?

I've actually own Intel 330 and it caused my quite a headache. Yeah, i got bsods just as regularly as with other sandforce drives (also have adata, ocz). And thats on different platforms, so its not just limited to one PC.

And no, Intel does not write its own firmware for their sandforce line. Its written by sandforce and customsized for Intel. Look it up..

 

[Phynaz]

Anecdotal evidence with a sample size of one. I have two Intel 330's that haven't given me a problem, therefore you are wrong :awe:. See, my data is no more valid than yours.

Anyway, the op has never been back.

 

[hojnikb]

There are lots of reports of sandforce bsods, so i'm not the only one.

 

[Phynaz]

You should look up false equivalency.

 

[VirtualLarry]

While Intel's SandForce 2nd-gen controller-based drives are probably the best of the bunch, and the most well-validated, they're still SandForce, and that controller seems to have intrinsic bugs.

I would rather get a Marvell controller-based driver over SandForce any day.

Sandisk Ultra Plus is Marvell, isn't it? As is Plextor, and of course, most Crucial drives. (Except for the V4, which uses a Phison and is crap slow.)

 

[Shmee]

Cool it with the back and forth bickering guys, agree to disagree.

I would say a 850 Pro would be a good choice, 10 year warranty is awesome IMO. Also a very fast SSD, albeit pricey. Of course, speed may not be much of a concern with only Sata II, best to get a good deal on an SSD that plays well with your board. What board is it?