SSD Newb..2 questions

Gorrillasnot

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1. Do I use Intel RST drivers for a single SSD or just use the Windows 7 drivers?

2. I use CCleaner after every internet session. Will that harm a SSD?
I currently have the settings to 3 passes, wipe alternate data streams checked, wipe cluster tips checked, wipe free space drives C: checked, and wipe MFT free space checked.
are those settings safe to use? if not what needs changed?

thanks
 

razel

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1. If Intel's RST is already installed, then make sure it's updated. If it's not installed don't bother, unless you are on a laptop.

2. It will not harm. However... why CCleaner after every session. Just use porn mode or manually clear it yourself using the browser history/cache cleaning tools. Porn mode is so easy especially if you have the browser pinned to your taskbar. Right-click, choose inprivate/incognito and p0rn surf until you faint!
 

jiffylube1024

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You don't need to use RST at all - your choice. It's mandatory if you're using hardware RAID, and RST drivers are good for hot swapping sata drives, but other than that there's little to no benefit.
 

Gorrillasnot

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Thanks for the info. RST driver not needed for single ssd.

I don't like to use incognito because you have to enter the url of a site again if you want to revisit it.
Plus its a force of habit.. I prefer to use CCLeaner as it removes flash and java stuff as well as browser cache.
So what settings for ccleaner should i use or should I use the settings I listed above?

thanks
 

razel

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I don't think you have tried incognito lately at least on IE and Chrome. If you have already visited the site both auto-fill.

Also, I'm a web developer. Java JRE plugins are nearly dead. Flash is next. Yes Flash IS next. New browser's support for HTML5's DHTML + CSS 3 + JQuery replace it and thank god.

Yes it habit. It's time to change. The Internet and computers don't stand still. What CCleaner settings to change? None... if you don't use it.
 

John Connor

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Thanks for the info. RST driver not needed for single ssd.

I don't like to use incognito because you have to enter the url of a site again if you want to revisit it.
Plus its a force of habit.. I prefer to use CCLeaner as it removes flash and java stuff as well as browser cache.
So what settings for ccleaner should i use or should I use the settings I listed above?

thanks


Use Firefox or better yet Palemoon and install the addon betterprivacy for deleting the flash based cookies on exit. You can disable the cache altogahter with a few settings in about:config. I use no cache. No need for it since I have broadband and it gets rid of cookieless cookies. Yes, cookieless cookies, look it up. It will only delete the cookieless cookies on exit., but not all of the remnants.

in Firefox or Palemoon enter about:config in the address bar.

Search for the following and chose the setting. Create the following in bold.

browser.cache.disk.capacity 0

browser.cache.disk.enable False

browser.cache.disk.max_entry_size 0

browser.cache.disk.smart_size.first_run False

browser.cache.disk_cache_ssl false


(Right click and select the following)

browser.cache.memory.capacity 0 < New integer

browser.cache.memory.enable False < New Boolean value

browser.cache.memory.max_entry_size
0 New integer

browser.cache.offline.capacity 0

browser.cache.offline.enable False


Now all you have to do is go to tools/options and select delete cookies on exit.

I run Ccleaner every once in a while and in a month or two I wipe free space. NSA 7 passes.
 
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GlacierFreeze

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RST improves performance normally, its well worth installing it.

Yep. I lose several percentage points of Random Read/Write performance when I don't have RST installed.

Also, I think using CCleaner after every Internet session is rather pointless and borderline OCD. Once every couple weeks or more is more reasonable. And setting it to wipe free space is likely doing slightly more harm than and is a waste of time. Wiping free space on HDs (turning all bits to 0s, which is probably what CCleaner does) is different than doing the same to SSD (TRIM which happens automatically and/or Secure Erase).
 
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John Connor

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No, TRIM doesn't over write data with zeros. I used recuva before and after running Ccleaner and I couldn't recover files after I wiped free space before I could.
 

Gorrillasnot

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I installed Intel RST drivers and my random read went from 479.2 to 491.. random write stayed pretty much the same at 364.8. 4k read/write was 28/70 and after RST was 29/60.
4k qd32 was 208/192 before and 295/289 with RST.
I have no idea what most of those numbers mean, but it looks like the RST drivers gave a bump in performance.

Thanks John Connor I will try your settings