SSD for desktop even though I rarely boot?

[gamerboy]

I rarely turn off desktop, so booting Windows is not something I do much.

Also I don't game much on a PC at the moment - mostly console right now.

I do use my desktop for work though but that is mostly word processing, some Photoshop/MS Paint, and general web browsing for research.

I have a i5-2400, 6gig ram, and need to replace my hard drive anyway since I fried it the other day. So I'm debating a HDD for $70 or a 256gig SSD for $150. 256 gig is plenty for me at this point in time.

 

[Virgorising]

I rarely turn off desktop, so booting Windows is not something I do much.

Also I don't game much on a PC at the moment - mostly console right now.

I do use my desktop for work though but that is mostly word processing, some Photoshop/MS Paint, and general web browsing for research.

I have a i5-2400, 6gig ram, and need to replace my hard drive anyway since I fried it the other day. So I'm debating a HDD for $70 or a 256gig SSD for $150. 256 gig is plenty for me at this point in time.

However naive it may be, I never understood why anyone would keep their systems on 24/7. Can U pls share?

Re yr dillema: despite I think they are not fully mature, if you can do the $150 easily, and it's a good drive (not all are), I think I would go there.

 

[Ampersand38]

Photoshop/browser launch speed would be worth it, imo.

 

[Virgorising]

Photoshop/browser launch speed would be worth it, imo.

Yes....plus, U wanna do it, so U should.()

 

[gamerboy]

Why turn off my computer? It sleeps at night and barely draws any power.

 

[gamerboy]

Photoshop/browser launch speed would be worth it, imo.

Ok thanks. I'll consider that.

 

[Virgorising]

Why turn off my computer? It hibernates at night and barely draws any power.

I know. I not only shut the system down, I pull the surge protector strip it and all its peripherals are connected to...from the wall.

But we each should do what's right for us.

 

[hot120]

^^^Are you that concerned about saving electricity, or do you not have a UPS? If you have a UPS, none of that excessive disconnecting is necessary.

 

[Virgorising]

^^^Are you that concerned about saving electricity, or do you not have a UPS? If you have a UPS, none of that excessive disconnecting is necessary.

I live in Manhattan where we pay the highest kwh rates in the country. But I mainly do it because I see no downsides to doing it, only upsides.

For me, it just makes good sense.

 

[hot120]

So, what is the down-side to keeping a computer running 24/7? Make sure you include the average cost of electricity to run the computer 24/7, and compare that to the power scheme you run to see the cost savings (if any).

 

[gamerboy]

The cost savings in turning off a computer are negligible. A computer barely uses any power in sleep mode. Cue the philosophical dinosaur meme for spending $150 on a SSD to save $5 in electricity a year.

 

[Virgorising]

So, what is the down-side to keeping a computer running 24/7? Make sure you include the average cost of electricity to run the computer 24/7, and compare that to the power scheme you run to see the cost savings (if any).

One more once: not only is there no downside to what I do and always have, I see zero upside to doing otherwise. ZERO. FOR ME, doing otherwise is just laziness.

 

[Virgorising]

The cost savings in turning off a computer are negligible. A computer barely uses any power in sleep mode. Cue the philosophical dinosaur meme for spending $150 on a SSD to save $5 in electricity a year.

The last reason I do what I do is some tiny savings on electric bill. I only addressed that because I was asked. For me, what I do makes perfect sense in every way.

Not as if our computers are like cable boxes which are huge energy hogs, wherein, U unplug them it messes up their programming, so you just don't.

 

[Cerb]

Why turn off my computer? It hibernates at night and barely draws any power.

Hibernating is turning it off, only boots quickly with small amounts of RAM (which 6GB very much is), and takes up a substantial chunk of SSD space. I use S3. <5 seconds to be back to where I was when I left it, and it sips less power, than a 60w equivalent CFL.

Anyway, for the OP: bootup time is hardly worth it with an SSD. Get an SSD for all the other speed improvements it offers. Every time your PC has to wait on the HDD...that event will be, for practical purposes, a thing of the past.

 

[Virgorising]

Hibernating is turning it off, only boots quickly with small amounts of RAM (which 6GB very much is), and takes up a substantial chunk of SSD space. I use S3. <5 seconds to be back to where I was when I left it, and it sips less power, than a 60w equivalent CFL.

Anyway, for the OP: bootup time is hardly worth it with an SSD. Get an SSD for all the other speed improvements it offers. Every time your PC has to wait on the HDD...that event will be, for practical purposes, a thing of the past.

You can go on trying to spin it into oblivion, hibernating is NOT turning it off. Shutting it down and removing it and its peripherals from the power source is.

Ask anyone in my region who sustained the wrath of hurricane Sandy.

 

[code65536]

You can go on trying to spin it into oblivion, hibernating is NOT turning it off. Shutting it down and removing it and its peripherals from the power source is.

You're confusing hibernation (S5) with sleep (S4). You can hibernate and unplug everything.

 

[Asphodelus]

I live in Manhattan where we pay the highest kwh rates in the country. But I mainly do it because I see no downsides to doing it, only upsides.

For me, it just makes good sense.

Electricity might be a lot more expensive in Manhattan than in Middle America, but salaries are a lot higher in Manhattan than Middle America too - last I heard, the average income in NYC was $123,000...

Doesn't it all balance out?

 

[Virgorising]

Electricity might be a lot more expensive in Manhattan than in Middle America, but salaries are a lot higher in Manhattan than Middle America too - last I heard, the average income in NYC was $123,000...

Doesn't it all balance out?

NO. It does not all balance out. And never count other peoples' money or trivialize anyone's carefully arrived, not capriciously arrived at... values and choices.

I SAID, energy saving was very low on the list of reasons I choose to do what I do in this, yes?

Now, I challenge you to provide one reason to keep a system on, including in hibernate, 24/7.

 

[Virgorising]

You're confusing hibernation (S5) with sleep (S4). You can hibernate and unplug everything.

When the new/used system I am on arrived, It was set to hibernation. I turned it off. Were I only concerned about energy, I would not have. Of course, this is a hugely energy efficient system and with an EPA PSU and a modest GPU.

It could not serve my needs more magnificently, and I chose it carefully. I always do.

 

[Virgorising]

The cost savings in turning off a computer are negligible. A computer barely uses any power in sleep mode. Cue the philosophical dinosaur meme for spending $150 on a SSD to save $5 in electricity a year.

LAST TIME, DUDE: this is NOT ABOUT MONEY.

 

[code65536]

When the new/used system I am on arrived, It was set to hibernation. I turned it off.

You do realize that hibernating and unplugging is exactly the same, energy-wise as shutdown and unplugging, right? The only difference is that you waste time (and energy, since you seem to care about that) starting up from shutdown instead of hibernate.

 

[Virgorising]

You do realize that hibernating and unplugging is exactly the same, energy-wise as shutdown and unplugging, right? The only difference is that you waste time (and energy, since you seem to care about that) starting up from shutdown instead of hibernate.

Jeeze......what part of "energy savings in what I choose to do is the least concern of all for me in this" are you missing???

I waste TIME?????? Come on, you can't do better than that? Is there any bottom to your barrel?:sneaky:

And exactly where are you going in such a hurry, and what are you missing?

 

[Stone Rain]

An SSD doesn't just help boot time. It will make the entire system very noticeably faster; program launches, game load times, and file read/writes will all be much faster.

Also, the latest-gen SSD's are more reliable than hard drives, due to the lack of spinning platters.

You should go with the Samsung 840 EVO series SSD's, they are the best cost to performance ratio right now, and have a kick-butt warranty as well.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Hibernation just writes the contents of RAM to a special file on the HDD, and then does an ATX power-off. Shutdown simply closes your files, writes back any cached files to the HDD, and then does an ATX power-off. As far as power consumption goes, they are exactly the same. One simply saves the system state, and one does not, instead, opting to begin anew when the system boots up.

Whether you unplug the system after shutting down (or hibernating), is up to you. It does cut off the "vampire load" of the +5Vsb line taking power while the system is in an ATX "power off" state.

Myself, I don't generally use hibernate, except on my laptops.

My desktops stay running, full tilt, 24/7, crunching numbers for the cause of science and medicine.

Edit: Oh yes, they also heat my apt in the wintertime.

 

[Virgorising]

Hibernation just writes the contents of RAM to a special file on the HDD, and then does an ATX power-off. Shutdown simply closes your files, writes back any cached files to the HDD, and then does an ATX power-off. As far as power consumption goes, they are exactly the same. One simply saves the system state, and one does not, instead, opting to begin anew when the system boots up.

Whether you unplug the system after shutting down (or hibernating), is up to you. It does cut off the "vampire load" of the +5Vsb line taking power while the system is in an ATX "power off" state.

Myself, I don't generally use hibernate, except on my laptops.

My desktops stay running, full tilt, 24/7, crunching numbers for the cause of science and medicine.

Edit: Oh yes, they also heat my apt in the wintertime.

And, he has sardonic humor to boot (no pun intended re the boot)!

I care less to almost not at all about the vampire phenomenon than I do about anything being vulnerable in a power outage or something devastating such as hurricane Sandy. Yes, even tho I use a surge protector.

I sleep better with the strip uplugged from THE POWER SOURCE, wherein no charge of any kind goes to the system, the board, etc.

After Sandy, wherein our GRID GOT FLOODED, I and around 70 neighbors in my building had to have RCN come and replace either their cable modems, their broadband modems or both.

I only had to have my cable modem replaced. GUESS WHY?