SSD and back to XP

[dryfly]

At the first of the year I installed a SSD and migrated to Win 7. All was good, and then about 3 months ago I began to have a problem with my monitors not awaking from the sleep mode. This issue is mentioned all over the internet and while some seem to have found solutions, many have not (that includes me). Consensus is something went wrong on one of the Windows updates. It's got to be that or I'm having a hardware problem.

I've tried all the suggested fixes and it's a hit and miss thing everytime I try to bring my computer out of the sleep mode.

My question is: how would my Intel SSD do if I went back to XP? From what I've read Trim is an issue. I'm not really looking for blazing speed but am I going to have some inherent issues?

 

[taltamir]

if there was a problem with the upgrade process then the solution is to do a clean reinstall and get a proper install (without upgrade nonsense) rather then a downgrade.

Also, windows always had horrible issues with sleep mode. Win7 is a LOT LOT better with sleep mode then XP was though. Compatibility issues are abound with sleep mode and I have replaced hardware to get around such issues before.

Lack of trim is not just about speed, its about drive lifespan (significantly decreased without trim). Also winXP has alignment issues with SSDs which further harm both lifespan and speed.

 

[dryfly]

Just did clean install of Win 7 Pro with latest drivers. Did not help. The question is why did the sleep function work perfectly for 6 months only to revert to severe problems. Not only does the monitor not recover from sleep mode, many times it has no signal when doing a cold reboot.

Your last paragraph answered my question. Looks like a trip back to XP will be a bigger problem. I will just let my Win 7 system run 24/7 and that will eliminate my issues. No big deal.

 

[smakme7757]

What exactly is the problem when coming out of sleep?

And which Intel SSD do you have?

 

[Muse]

At the first of the year I installed a SSD and migrated to Win 7. All was good, and then about 3 months ago I began to have a problem with my monitors not awaking from the sleep mode. This issue is mentioned all over the internet and while some seem to have found solutions, many have not (that includes me). Consensus is something went wrong on one of the Windows updates. It's got to be that or I'm having a hardware problem.

I've tried all the suggested fixes and it's a hit and miss thing everytime I try to bring my computer out of the sleep mode.

My question is: how would my Intel SSD do if I went back to XP? From what I've read Trim is an issue. I'm not really looking for blazing speed but am I going to have some inherent issues?

Intel's SSD toolbox will let you run a TRIM function when you want to, assuming you go to XP. I hear you should run that TRIM function maybe once a week, it's real quick, takes 3 seconds. I think you can set up the function to run automatically. The Intel SSD toolbox is the best, I hear. I just bought two Intel SSDs, haven't installed them yet, but have been doing research.

My experience with suspend with XP is virtually flawless. However, my Win7 64bit laptop refuses to extend to an external monitor when awakened from sleep. I therefore put my XP laptop on that display.

If you go the XP route you'll want align the partition properly. Assuming you use an XP install disk to install XP, first you'll want to use something to align the partition before installing XP. You could do that by formatting the SSD drive using a Win7 install disk or use a freeware utility such as Parted Magic. See this thread:

http://www.thinkpads.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=107635&p=695947#p695947

 

[dryfly]

What exactly is the problem when coming out of sleep?

And which Intel SSD do you have?

Using Intel 320 80GB SSD and Biostar 880G+ mb.

The computer comes out of sleep fine, but the monitor has no signal. I was running dual monitors, one of VGA and the other DVI. The VGA would do fine on awakening but the DVI more frequently would remain blank. Sometimes rebooting would bring both monitors back to life, sometimes not. I disconnected the VGA and went only with the DVI, and still had the problem

As of right now I've decided not to give up Win 7 and just let the computer run 24/7 and use a screen saver. Think this will work for me for now. This problem is noted on many forums with a vast array of cures, but none of them are effective on all computers.

 

[Muse]

Using Intel 320 80GB SSD and Biostar 880G+ mb.

The computer comes out of sleep fine, but the monitor has no signal. I was running dual monitors, one of VGA and the other DVI. The VGA would do fine on awakening but the DVI more frequently would remain blank. Sometimes rebooting would bring both monitors back to life, sometimes not. I disconnected the VGA and went only with the DVI, and still had the problem

As of right now I've decided not to give up Win 7 and just let the computer run 24/7 and use a screen saver. Think this will work for me for now. This problem is noted on many forums with a vast array of cures, but none of them are effective on all computers.

I think I was having the same or similar problem. Every time I brought the Win7 computer out of sleep I had to reconfigure it to output to the secondary display. I had no such problem with my XP computer, so I switched locations of the computers. The only computer I have that's on 24/7 is my data server computer for obvious reasons. Its display is off almost all the time, of course.

I posted about the problem before and someone noted that the party to blame has to be Microsoft.

I got my 2nd SSD today, they're both Intel, a 520 series and a 330. Plan on installing them both in XP computers (hopefully in the next few days), suppose I'll get an SSD for my Win7 machine at some point.

 

[kmmatney]

I upgraded my new-ish Dell laptop (IvyBridge Core i7) from Win7 Home to Win 7 Professional, and then started having a lot of issue with sleep and hibernate. This really suck with a laptop. I decided to give the $15 upgrade to windows 8 a try, and luckily that solved my problem, and everything works again. Having sleeo work is well worth dealing with the Metro crap, which I bypass.

 

[B-Riz]

Are you leaving any programs open when going to sleep?

I was having this issue sporadically with the Vertex 4, and it turned out Chrome was waking the computer shortly after going to sleep.

So now I close all open programs, including the things running in the "notification area" of Win 7, and sleep works fine.

 

[Ketchup]

I remember having an issue with S3 a couple years ago. Switching to S1 fixed it though.

S3 is (or at least used to be) pretty touch and go. My parents' desktop won't come out of S1 or S3. I don't have issues with mine, but I am running new hardware.

 

[taltamir]

Are you leaving any programs open when going to sleep?

I was having this issue sporadically with the Vertex 4, and it turned out Chrome was waking the computer shortly after going to sleep.

So now I close all open programs, including the things running in the "notification area" of Win 7, and sleep works fine.

that completely defeats the purpose of sleep mode.

 

[Ketchup]

that completely defeats the purpose of sleep mode.

Well, mostly anyway. Still faster than full shutdown, reboot.

 

[Insomniator]

Sleep is not worth going back to XP for.

 

[taltamir]

Well, mostly anyway. Still faster than full shutdown, reboot.

Eh... the speed of bootup never bothered me.
I use sleep mode so that I can keep a ton of programs open.

At least nowadays all the major browsers can save their last state and resume it next run so I can shut down if needed.