SRS WOW effects *RESOLVED*

kevinthenerd

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You're probably familiar with the SRS WOW effects in Windows Media Player. Is there any way of pre-processing an MP3 file so it doesn't use so much CPU time while it's playing each and every time? Furthermore, is there a way of making it permanent within the file so that I can burn a CD with that effect on it?
 

darktubbly

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Decoding MP3 files on even a 3 or 4 year old computer shouldn't have much of a performance hit. What's your CPU usage? If you're using Winamp 3, don't; it's a resource hog...use Winamp 2 instead.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
You're probably familiar with the SRS WOW effects in Windows Media Player. Is there any way of pre-processing an MP3 file so it doesn't use so much CPU time while it's playing each and every time? Furthermore, is there a way of making it permanent within the file so that I can burn a CD with that effect on it?

Pre-processing the file? You could decode the MP3s to WAV files. That would eliminate the need to decode them in the future. Of course, that pretty much defeats the purpose of MP3 compression. :)
 

Smilin

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Guys he's wanting the files pre-processed with the WOW effects, not just pre-decoded from mp3.

I'm thinking you just want to play normally, but record the output to a completely new WAV file. There is a program to record "anything you hear" I just can't remember the name of it which make my post pretty useless. Sorry.
 

TheCorm

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Yeah you would need a special program for this....assuming that there is one....I have not found any way to record Creatives EAX and Environmental Audio effects to a file, it only outputs this effect to the speakers.

Jamie
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: Smilin
There is a program to record "anything you hear" I just can't remember the name of it which make my post pretty useless. Sorry.

It sounds like such a program converts the signal to analog within the sound card and records that to a new wav file. I've done this in the past using various audio tools. There's too much of a loss of quality for my purpose.

I have a Celeron 433, and I'm always doing heavy multitasking. Decoding SRS WOW effects with an MP3 is the last thing I need. I want to burn CD's and play them with my CD player (standalone unit away from the computer), but I don't know how to preprocess the SRS WOW effects so they're part of the CD.
 

kevinthenerd

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Something that I just saw in a car audio place (specifically I was looking at Alpines at Circuit City):

Some of the mid- to high-end audio equipment has environmental audio effects. Is there any way of adding this to a WAV file, enhancing the signal, for a permanent effect?

Basically, I want to have the effects hard-coded into the sound file.
 

noxxic

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I've never tried it, but I suppose you could...

Get the Winamp plugin equivalent of SRS WOW, get the MP3 -output- plugin. Select the MP3 plugin as the output device, then just play your MP3s. Instead of coming out out your speakers, Winamp should (I think...) create an MP3 w/ the effect. If you want a WAV, there's also a WAV output plugin.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Not sure if this helps but Cool Audio has a bunch of buttons and things to choose from when I last used it...

I know when you start it, it gives you options for how you want to record it, like filtering it, or some other ones like effects. I don't remember, it was like a year ago. Sorry if this doesn't help...
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: Paulson
sound forge! :p

That's what I use to record "what U Hear" on my audigy platinum card...

That will record whatever is playing on the sound card.


Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
It sounds like such a program converts the signal to analog within the sound card and records that to a new wav file. I've done this in the past using various audio tools. There's too much of a loss of quality for my purpose.
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: noxxic
I've never tried it, but I suppose you could...

Get the Winamp plugin equivalent of SRS WOW, get the MP3 -output- plugin. Select the MP3 plugin as the output device, then just play your MP3s. Instead of coming out out your speakers, Winamp should (I think...) create an MP3 w/ the effect. If you want a WAV, there's also a WAV output plugin.

That looks to be the most promising suggestion. I'll try that now.
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: noxxic
I've never tried it, but I suppose you could...

Get the Winamp plugin equivalent of SRS WOW, get the MP3 -output- plugin. Select the MP3 plugin as the output device, then just play your MP3s. Instead of coming out out your speakers, Winamp should (I think...) create an MP3 w/ the effect. If you want a WAV, there's also a WAV output plugin.

Thanks! I got the plugins off of Winamp's site.

I don't know why, but I have to convert the file to WAV before I can process it. It's only a minor inconvenience that I can certainly overlook considering I only have to do it once for a permanent effect.

 

Paulson

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Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
Originally posted by: Paulson
sound forge! :p

That's what I use to record "what U Hear" on my audigy platinum card...

That will record whatever is playing on the sound card.


Originally posted by: kevinthenerd
It sounds like such a program converts the signal to analog within the sound card and records that to a new wav file. I've done this in the past using various audio tools. There's too much of a loss of quality for my purpose.
Then you must have a really crappy sound card... on my audigy it sounds perfect.
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: Paulson
Then you must have a really crappy sound card... on my audigy it sounds perfect.

I have on-board sound that came with my motherboard. The input section sounds like crap because I fried it with my guitar amp. (It never did have enough quality to match my speakers before that, though.) For recordings of recordings of recordings, even your Audigy would start to decline after the 20th run. I need true digital processing; no analog can cut it.

I have a pretty nice setup, and I happen to be a musician. In the music I listen to, I can hear a lot of things that my friends don't because I have above-average hearing and audio discernment. Again, analog won't cut it. I can tell. (I even look for the "DDD" on classical CD's I buy. "ADD" doesn't have enough fidelity for me.)

A new soundcard isn't in my budget (even a cheap one for $20), but I do have a CD changer that does a fantastic job. (I hook my speakers up to its headphone output.) That's pretty much why I wanted especially to be able to do the effects permanently for external output onto a CD.

(The only thing I hate about the computer world is that it's so "pay to play". I wish I had some real cash, but then again, I know a lot of unhappy rich people. My old neighbor just won a $500,000 lawsuit and is "poorer" than ever in what really counts: happiness and morality. After seeing that I hope I never get rich. Easy money makes stupid people even dumber.)

Yes, I'm rich enough to be a geek who's always on the Internet but too poor to get a $20 part for it. I'm really trying hard to save up for a car, and every penny I spend elsewhere takes me a penny away from independent transportation. After I get a car, my next big purchase will definitely be a car stereo. (All while paying tuition, etc.) The car I chose, by the way, is the Saturn ION, thanks in part to Anandtech Off Topic!

Edit: "DDD" doesn't always guarantee quality, but it certainly does help.
 

0roo0roo

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i'd buy a new set of speakers if wow sounds good to you. its a worthless effect good for cheap taiwan speakers that come with systems for free:)
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'd buy a new set of speakers if wow sounds good to you. its a worthless effect good for cheap taiwan speakers that come with systems for free:)

Definitely. I like my curent three-piece, but I'm thinking about stepping up and going custom.

Edit:

But I must say... my current speakers sound awesome when I listen to modern recordings. I don't think any expensive set of speakers would enhance the sound of original recordings from the 60's or of music extracted from cassette quite like DSP. I tried that Winamp idea with one of my recordings of Bach's 5th Brandenburg Concerto, and it really made it a lot better. (My subwoofer is powerful enough to be felt, but the cellos don't quite do that without some oomph from the DSP. My satellites are powerful enough to make dogs cry miles away, but the harpsichord doesn't have that fresh, crisp, high-treble sound without some digital enhancement.)
 

kevinthenerd

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
i'd buy a new set of speakers if wow sounds good to you. its a worthless effect good for cheap taiwan speakers that come with systems for free:)

When your speakers are good but the recording is junk (as in the case of a lot of classical I listen to), WOW and other such effects do a fine job of making it sound better.