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Squaresoft + Obsidian + Dungeon Siege = Win

QuantumPion

QuantumPion

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Just saw the debut trailer for Dungeon Siege III on gametrailers, it looks amazing! And I am really enthusiastic about it, considering it is made by the best RPG teams. Squaresoft for the art and production along with Obsidian (BG2/NWN2/MOTB) for the storyline = woot!

Anyone think it's just a coincidence that there are two major action RPG's now in the pipeline for release (along with Torchlight)? I wonder if they are trying to cash in on the anticipation for Diablo 3 🙂
 
Little more worried that it's also a console game. Will the PC version end up as nothing more than a bad port? It could end up using Square-Enix's engine that I believe supports all three platforms.
 
Ummm, no thats the recipe for failure. Square fudged up anything they do these days. And adding them to other teams is automatic mess.
 
I just hope some of the characters are over 20.

It gets harder the older I get to empathize with teens or worse yet kiddies saving the world.
 
I think during the FFX development (can definitely tell in each subsequent release), Square purely continued to perfect their art/graphics to the detriment of every other aspect of their video games--cept their music usually isn't bad even if I haven't heard anything great from them in a while. I don't think I'll buy another Square game without some sort of demo beforehand that proves the game is good.
 
QuantumPion said:
Just saw the debut trailer for Dungeon Siege III on gametrailers, it looks amazing! And I am really enthusiastic about it, considering it is made by the best RPG teams. Squaresoft for the art and production along with Obsidian (BG2/NWN2/MOTB) for the storyline = woot!

Anyone think it's just a coincidence that there are two major action RPG's now in the pipeline for release (along with Torchlight)? I wonder if they are trying to cash in on the anticipation for Diablo 3 🙂
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Are you insane?

Obsidian thankfully had nothing to do with Baldurs Gate 2.

And NWN2 + expansions were spectacularly mediocre.

The only good thing that Black Isle actually designed/made (with Feargus) was Fallout 2.
 
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Everything that Obsidian touches turns out crappier than the original: NWN2 & KOTOR2 for example...
 
Mide said:
Everything that Obsidian touches turns out crappier than the original: NWN2 & KOTOR2 for example...
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The storyline of NWN2 was FAR better than that of NWN. It wasn't really even close.

I still got more enjoyment out of the original though, but that was because it had a far better development kit, which lent to more player made campaigns (also I would say that the gameplay was slightly better in the original as well).
 
Dungeon Siege is an action rpg series, which is more like Diablo and much, much less like BG2.

In fact, I specifically remember Dungeon Siege was nothing than more endless monster killing, with the only two choices being move forward or go back.
 
MJinZ said:
Indeed, James Ohlan of Bioware is the genius behind all the greats. BG2, NWN, KOTOR.
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My mistake, Obsidian = Black Isle Studios = Planescape: Torment, not BG2. Still, between PS:T and Mask of the Betrayer, I think they are pretty awesome. NWN2 was very buggy at first but once patched was a solid RPG with a good story, in many ways I liked it better than Dragon Age.
 
What's the point of calling it Dungeon Siege if it has a different developer, a different publisher, and 3 fewer characters to control. The thing that made Dungeon Siege unique was controlling 4 characters in an action RPG.
 
Raduque said:
Wasn't it also unique that you didn't really level up, your chars just got better by using weapons?
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I believe so in a rough way. There was a 'Weapon Skill" and a "Magic Skill" if I remember correctly, each trained by using Weapons or Magic.

That makes it more unique in that it uses a common sense system of skill training and character improvement than most games which use an XP bar.
 
QuantumPion said:
Just saw the debut trailer for Dungeon Siege III on gametrailers, it looks amazing! And I am really enthusiastic about it, considering it is made by the best RPG teams. Squaresoft for the art and production along with Obsidian (BG2/NWN2/MOTB) for the storyline = woot!

Anyone think it's just a coincidence that there are two major action RPG's now in the pipeline for release (along with Torchlight)? I wonder if they are trying to cash in on the anticipation for Diablo 3 🙂
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You mean SquareEnix? SquareSoft has been gone for like 7 years lol.
 
RavenSEAL said:
You mean SquareEnix? SquareSoft has been gone for like 7 years lol.
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I still use the term SquareSoft, since I believe they still do work separately in regard to their titles even though they're a combined company. I've never exactly read the credits on a DragonQuest title, but I don't recall seeing any well-known Square personnel on the roster 😛.
 
Anyone who says NWN1 is better than NWN2 is on crack. And Mask of the Betrayer is head and shoulders above a lot of other RPGs. Obsidian doesn't have a perfect track record, but I can only think of a few RPG developers I'd rather hear about doing this. Bioware and Blizzard... that's about it. None of the other decent RPG developers, like the guys who did Witcher or Risen have any experience in this Arena and frankly even if they did I don't think they compete with Obsidian.
 
skace said:
Anyone who says NWN1 is better than NWN2 is on crack. And Mask of the Betrayer is head and shoulders above a lot of other RPGs. Obsidian doesn't have a perfect track record, but I can only think of a few RPG developers I'd rather hear about doing this. Bioware and Blizzard... that's about it. None of the other decent RPG developers, like the guys who did Witcher or Risen have any experience in this Arena and frankly even if they did I don't think they compete with Obsidian.
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I agree. NWN1 was a blast. NWN2 had too many performance issues and I couldn't keep the toolset open for more than 4 minutes at a time before it would crash. It wasn't worth the trouble to make modules.

I liked the second nwn1 expansion more than MOTB though.
 
skace said:
Anyone who says NWN1 is better than NWN2 is on crack. And Mask of the Betrayer is head and shoulders above a lot of other RPGs. Obsidian doesn't have a perfect track record, but I can only think of a few RPG developers I'd rather hear about doing this. Bioware and Blizzard... that's about it. None of the other decent RPG developers, like the guys who did Witcher or Risen have any experience in this Arena and frankly even if they did I don't think they compete with Obsidian.
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NWN1 is better than NWN2 because of the community content. I haven't played NWN2 in a while so maybe things have changed, but NWN1 had so many (well made) modules/campagins that you always had a new story to look forward to.
 
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