spyware is annoying

wkwong

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i swear that computer manufacturuers are the ones that are making the spyware. i have fixed soo many of my friends' computers that have been infected with spyware and they didint' even know. pop-ups alone are annoying, but those programs that get loaded into your memory takes up all your resources too.

several people were thinking about getting new computers before i told them about spyware.

pretty slick of them huh? lol

EDIT: this thread was suppsoe to be a joke, not how to prevent spyware, because we all know that already! and if not, im sure you can find it in another thread
 

us3rnotfound

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Then try getting a computer job in your neighborhood, and nobody knows it, but all that you do is run Adaware and Spybot, clean up the registry, and their computer is running smooth as silk.

Oh, and that'll be $30. :cool:
 

Duvie

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It is becoming far more prevalent.....I have to regularly run adware on my laptop and the wifes pc to clean them up....

I rarely hook up my main pc to the net anymore since viruses and spyware are so prevalent and I want to keep it safe for doing my workstation work....
 

boran

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installing any other browser than IE does the trick most of the time ... they dont have ActiveX so no way to install it.
 

drag

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Originally posted by: Duvie
It is becoming far more prevalent.....I have to regularly run adware on my laptop and the wifes pc to clean them up....

I rarely hook up my main pc to the net anymore since viruses and spyware are so prevalent and I want to keep it safe for doing my workstation work....


Get a descent firewall/router machine. It will keep your computer seperate from the Net, but still allow access to it.

For viruses and spyware, just aviod using OE and IE that will fix many of the big issues with spyware and such. Other then that, just don't go around installing random crap from P2P networks and such and everyweek check microsoft.com to make sure that there are no updates.

Doing that will protect you from 95% of the crap out there.


i swear that computer manufacturuers are the ones that are making the spyware. i have fixed soo many of my friends' computers that have been infected with spyware and they didint' even know. pop-ups alone are annoying, but those programs that get loaded into your memory takes up all your resources too.

several people were thinking about getting new computers before i told them about spyware.

pretty slick of them huh? lol


There is a conspiracy.

Ever wonder why you have to rely on free software like Spybot and Adaware to clean out spyware/addware.

Why can't commercial anti-virus stuff look for that, too??? Like Norton or Mcaffee?

If it's suppose to protect your computer from malicious software, why doesn't it even have the option to find and delete some of the more common versions of spyware?

Why is Sasser a worm, and "Comet XXX super duper sex porn pop up ad tracker" not?

Think about it...
 

EeyoreX

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There is a conspiracy.

Ever wonder why you have to rely on free software like Spybot and Adaware to clean out spyware/addware.

Why can't commercial anti-virus stuff look for that, too??? Like Norton or Mcaffee?

If it's suppose to protect your computer from malicious software, why doesn't it even have the option to find and delete some of the more common versions of spyware?
I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next nutcase (seriously, I love a good conspiracy theory), but this is funny. It's even more funny because commerical applications like Norton and presumably McAffee (I don't use McAffee) do find and delete and/or block some spyware/adware. And get this... Anti-virus software doesn't protect your computer from "malicious software". It is designed to protect and clean your computer from viruses and worms. Funny thing calling it "anti-virus software" and not "anti-malicious software software". Frankly, I would rather have more than one tool. I prefer several smaller, specialized tools than one "jack-of-all tools" tool. The smaller speciallized tool will 99% of the time be far superior to any "does it all" tool. I also find this funny because people are always whining, b!tching and moaning about how one company tries to do everything with its software and stifles competition and/or makes bad software. Then these same people want some other company to do the same thing.

Why is Sasser a worm, and "Comet XXX super duper sex porn pop up ad tracker" not?

Think about it...
Because Sasser propogates itself. Pop ups and ad trackers require an idiot or ignorant person to activate them, either by clicking the ads or by going to a site that uses them and (admittedly) using IE to do it. Think about it.

\Dan
 

ArmchairAthlete

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Keep your PC up to date (Windows Update), use a software firewall, run spybot and/or adaware every now and then, and don't do anything dumb like click "yes" to download an unkown plugin and you should be fine.

I almost never get any spyware on my PC, and I've only gotten one virus (trojan really) in the year and a half I've had my current PC.
 

Schadenfroh

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follow the last several steps in my FAQ to prevent infection, allot of it comes from holes in MSVM
 

drag

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Originally posted by: EeyoreX
There is a conspiracy.

Ever wonder why you have to rely on free software like Spybot and Adaware to clean out spyware/addware.

Why can't commercial anti-virus stuff look for that, too??? Like Norton or Mcaffee?

If it's suppose to protect your computer from malicious software, why doesn't it even have the option to find and delete some of the more common versions of spyware?
I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next nutcase (seriously, I love a good conspiracy theory), but this is funny. It's even more funny because commerical applications like Norton and presumably McAffee (I don't use McAffee) do find and delete and/or block some spyware/adware. And get this... Anti-virus software doesn't protect your computer from "malicious software". It is designed to protect and clean your computer from viruses and worms. Funny thing calling it "anti-virus software" and not "anti-malicious software software".

I know its funny.

It's funny because even though my parents computer has good antivirus I still have to go and use Adaware and Spybot to clean the rest of the crap off.

I've been to their websites and they do pay lip service to spyware and adware and such, but it could be that their definitions of spyware and adware are different then mine.


Frankly, I would rather have more than one tool. I prefer several smaller, specialized tools than one "jack-of-all tools" tool. The smaller speciallized tool will 99% of the time be far superior to any "does it all" tool. I also find this funny because people are always whining, b!tching and moaning about how one company tries to do everything with its software and stifles competition and/or makes bad software. Then these same people want some other company to do the same thing.

Cool, thats the sort of thing I like, too. Thats why I use Linux for most everything I can, becuase it's all about small peices put together to make one big whole, rather then most of the stuff in windows were your dealing mostly with monolithic programs. Not that I am pushing linux or anything, but you said you like this sort of thing... But in Windows I do as Windows does, and monolythic programs is the sort of thing I expect.

Why is Sasser a worm, and "Comet XXX super duper sex porn pop up ad tracker" not?

Think about it...
Because Sasser propogates itself. Pop ups and ad trackers require an idiot or ignorant person to activate them, either by clicking the ads or by going to a site that uses them and (admittedly) using IE to do it. Think about it.

\Dan

Well I suppose so, Sasser does propogate itself, so maybe virus would be a closer anology to spyware.

That's the difference between viruses and worms, worms go out and look for targets, viruses require ignorance or tricks to make a person actively install them. Usually thru vunerabilities in programs and such.

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Its just that I've read a couple interviews here and there were the scanner manufacturers don't look for specific things like keyloggers or trackers and such because they are sold commercially. If a company/parent installs a tracker on the computers of it's employees/children (as the reasoning goes) you don't nessicarially want the virus scanner to advertise it's presence everytime you run it. Or if somebody installs bonzi buddy should the virus scanner warn about it and try to uninstall it?

It's a kinda fine line. I mostly just want to get rid of all the crap like that, but other people are different. Some people realy like others tracking them. So that they get the nice targetted advertisments. So using the computer is like going to the shopping mall, which some people like, but I dread.

That sort of thing. Not that's its a wonderfull conspiracy or anything. Most conspiracies are small and kinda petty, just mostly brought about by convenience or apathy rather then any real maliciousness or evil I'm-a-gonna-get-you-ness. ;)
 

n0cmonkey

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Drag: teach your parents how to turn adaware. I taught my mom and now I don't have to deal with it anymore. ;)

The conspiracy is how people continue to contract these things. I'll be cleaning sasser off of a machine at home in the next day or two, so maybe I'll beat my brother till i figure it out...
 

duragezic

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Basically, these days the majority of people with a pc hasn't a clue about it and they're machines are simply owned by spyware. They click 'ok' too damn much I think. "Hmm Bargain Buddy... sure sounds great!" Even just running a ad-aware check can get rid of a lot of the problems and it isn't hard to show someone how to run the scan once a week or whatever.
 

drag

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Drag: teach your parents how to turn adaware. I taught my mom and now I don't have to deal with it anymore. ;)

The conspiracy is how people continue to contract these things. I'll be cleaning sasser off of a machine at home in the next day or two, so maybe I'll beat my brother till i figure it out...

I did. She finally got tired of waiting to fix the computer till I came home (once every 2--3 weeks or so.) and she asked me how to get rid of it.

She couldn't find were i had installed it on my account so she googled it, found it, installed it and scanned her computer. Then she figured out spybot, and from before that she figured out how to update anti-virus stuff and check out updates on microsoft.com and install them.

Before I set up the lan for their house to share the internet connection I made them buy a nice little router, and I set it up for them.

I recently installed firefox for them to use...

And now they are all but immune to the worms and viruses that currently threaten law abiding MS users everywere. Except for the occasional annoyance that gets nailed by adaware everything is cool.

*sniff* I am so proud of my parents now..
 

wkwong

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LOL .. yea, when i watch my dad use the computer, anything that pops up he's reads it then... then OK!