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Sprint looks to rock your world

Bateluer

Lifer
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ce-but-the-800mhz-rollout-will-drop-your-jaw/

Network Vision is a project to improve existing cell towers and roll out LTE across the U.S., and it's already underway in the existing CDMA 1900MHz range. 1900MHz is nice, but just wait till you see what the 2nd stage of NV (Network Vision) has in store when it starts rolling out in the 800MHz range in place of the current iDEN network.

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They desperately need it. That was the biggest downfall of Wimax, the frequency they had it on was horrible for building penetration. They've been talking this up for a while so we'll see how it plays out. They were banking a lot on their LTE deal with Lightsquard but it looks like that isn't going to work. Rolling out network upgrades certainly hasn't been Sprints strong suite.
 
To be honest, I have been using there 4g for over a year now. I use it most of the time cause it is fast. However, while their 3g is fine in my area, it lacks pretty bad in other areas. It would be nice if they built up their 3g to be as strong as verizons first.
 
To be honest, I have been using there 4g for over a year now. I use it most of the time cause it is fast. However, while their 3g is fine in my area, it lacks pretty bad in other areas. It would be nice if they built up their 3g to be as strong as verizons first.

Sigh....
Spend two years on infrastructure that will be dated when complete?
This expansion will actually gain 3G speed and reliability.
 
Sigh....
Spend two years on infrastructure that will be dated when complete?
This expansion will actually gain 3G speed and reliability.

Seconded. Beefing up their 3G would be nice, but it shouldn't be their focus at this junction. They need to build out LTE hard and fast.

But, if I was a Sprint customer that'd just bought a WiMAX device, I'd be inclined to be irritated.
 
Is Sprints LTE the same as Verizons LTE?

no.

it is on the 1900mhz band initially. so it will proably have worse wall penetration like wimax at 2500 did. eventually when they can free up the nextel 800mhz band it will also be 800mhz, but that willl not happen this year.
 
I was a Sprint customer for 15 months with the HTC Evo 4G and I found Sprint's coverage, particularly 4g (WiMax), to be REALLY bad! I travel a great deal and found that even in areas reported to have WiMax it was difficult to find a 4G signal -- even outdoors. I was never able to find 4G service at any of the many airports I traveled through including the DFW airport that should have had great coverage because the Dallas/Fort Worth area was one of the first places to get Wimax.

So, I now have a Verizon LTE Samsung Galaxy Nexus and in the short time I've had it (3 weeks) there have been few places that have not had LTE. I've been through the Salt Lake City, Atlanta and Albany NY airports and have had LTE in all of them. Even in the sticks were I'm working, in Malta NY, I have strong LTE even inside the FAB.

I have little faith that Sprint will ever have the kind of LTE coverage that Verizon has now -- EVER!


Brian
 
Sigh....
Spend two years on infrastructure that will be dated when complete?
This expansion will actually gain 3G speed and reliability.

Like I said, I only use 4g in my area, but it can get frustrating when I am out of 4g signal(which is rare, but happens). I think Sprint would have a lot more customers, and a lot more happy customers if they had a more consistent 3g network. You have to understand that the majority of people don't really need anything over 3g. And many of them don't even know/care about the difference. They just want their apps to work, and like I said, most apps work perfectly fine on a good 3g network.

I am glad Sprint is somewhat getting their stuff together, I just hope they don't do it half assed, cause they need the customers.
 
To be honest, I have been using there 4g for over a year now. I use it most of the time cause it is fast. However, while their 3g is fine in my area, it lacks pretty bad in other areas. It would be nice if they built up their 3g to be as strong as verizons first.
Verizon's 3G service is nothing to write home about.
 
Verizon's 3G service is nothing to write home about.

Verizon's EVDO 3G is MUCH MUCH better than Sprint's 3G here. Sprint's 3G is slower than EDGE on T-Mobile. The "4G" Wimax isn't much better.

Sprint's biggest problem, as I understand it, is they have no, or lousy, backhaul. If they can build out the backhaul, they'd probably be fairly competitive with the other 3.
 
Verizon's EVDO 3G is MUCH MUCH better than Sprint's 3G here. Sprint's 3G is slower than EDGE on T-Mobile. The "4G" Wimax isn't much better.

Sprint's biggest problem, as I understand it, is they have no, or lousy, backhaul. If they can build out the backhaul, they'd probably be fairly competitive with the other 3.

their 3G is not slower than edge, I just used my friend's LG Optimus V to download an app and it was going at ~100KB/second.

I believe they already upgraded the backhaul earlier this year. That's why and when Virgin Mobile's monthly plans switched from $25/mo to $35/mo for the lowest tier.
 
no.

it is on the 1900mhz band initially. so it will proably have worse wall penetration like wimax at 2500 did. eventually when they can free up the nextel 800mhz band it will also be 800mhz, but that willl not happen this year.

Why has it taken so long? I didn't realize Sprint had an 800mhz band! Seriously, ATT seemed ready to shut down tmobile's frequencies overnight, what did Sprint have to lose by killing IDEN and giving its customers CDMA phones?

their 3G is not slower than edge, I just used my friend's LG Optimus V to download an app and it was going at ~100KB/second.

The bottom end speeds of CDMA '3g' are about the same as the 2.5G speeds that the GSM derived technologies max out at (just eeking into 3g territory, the same way 3g goes into 4g). However, the upper limits of 3g are crushed by HSPA, and it's pretty obvious why Verizon and Sprint needed to roll out 4g technologies sooner than their competitors.
 
Like I said, I only use 4g in my area, but it can get frustrating when I am out of 4g signal(which is rare, but happens). I think Sprint would have a lot more customers, and a lot more happy customers if they had a more consistent 3g network. You have to understand that the majority of people don't really need anything over 3g. And many of them don't even know/care about the difference. They just want their apps to work, and like I said, most apps work perfectly fine on a good 3g network.

I am glad Sprint is somewhat getting their stuff together, I just hope they don't do it half assed, cause they need the customers.

You're not actually getting what I am saying. You are just repeated yourself.
 
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what is magical "network vision" that is going to magically increase signal coverage?

Network Vision is their roadmap for how they're going to plan out their network, using spectrum they currently own and the spectrum from the Nextel purchase years ago. The new spectrums have far better building penetration.
 
Verizon's EVDO 3G is MUCH MUCH better than Sprint's 3G here. Sprint's 3G is slower than EDGE on T-Mobile. The "4G" Wimax isn't much better.

Sprint's biggest problem, as I understand it, is they have no, or lousy, backhaul. If they can build out the backhaul, they'd probably be fairly competitive with the other 3.
I agree.

However compared to what I get on AT&T? And yes...This is 3G service on a pre-paid AT&T MVNO.

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Chiming in, here in Houston I've been getting sub 200kbps transfers (that's kiloBITS, not bytes) on Sprint's 3G for the past eight months or so. It was nothing great for the year before that. I've been terribly disappointed with their data networks, both in Houston and the few other cities I've been to since switching for the Evo 4G last year at launch.
 
FWIW, in my suburb of Boston I just measured Sprint's 3G at 654 down / 346 up kbps, with a ridiculous ping of 2350 ms to Washington DC.

...using my ancient HTC Hero because sprint will never get the Galaxy Nexus...
 
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