Spring in January?

[Jeff7]

Specific weather anomalies are 10-20 degrees. AGW is, at most, 1 degree.

You have a signal to noise problem with any attempt to form that argument.

If it's oddly hot, it's global warming.
If it's oddly cold......silence.

Just one of those psychological things, I guess.
Fat doesn't necessarily make you fat. It's just the same word that we use to describe two things. Oops. It can make you fat; but of course, so can any other of the forms of chemically-bound energy that we commonly ingest.
Hot outside? Gotta be that "warming" thing, even though the warming trend is a global average, and, as you pointed out, it's exceedingly small.
It sucks that we've got so little good data. I could plot a series of random numbers, call it all temperature values, and find a warming trend somewhere, depending on the window size. Too little data available in our models, both in terms of data points for a given time, and the size of the time window itself. :\

But, carbon dioxide notwithstanding, I'll say that our global health record is telling when we have to be at least a little careful about eating too much of some kinds of seafood because of the mercury pollution that some things, such as apex predators, tend to accumulate in their bodies. If you don't care about the warming stuff, whether or not it's our doing, it still seems like a very bad idea to dump poison into our own cage - particularly into our food dish.


"Seafood"....dammit, now I want some shrimp. Mmmm, buttery shrimp......

 

[lxskllr]

If it's oddly hot, it's global warming.
If it's oddly cold......silence.

Just one of those psychological things, I guess.
Fat doesn't necessarily make you fat. It's just the same word that we use to describe two things. Oops. It can make you fat; but of course, so can any other of the forms of chemically-bound energy that we commonly ingest.
Hot outside? Gotta be that "warming" thing, even though the warming trend is a global average, and, as you pointed out, it's exceedingly small.
It sucks that we've got so little good data. I could plot a series of random numbers, call it all temperature values, and find a warming trend somewhere, depending on the window size. Too little data available in our models, both in terms of data points for a given time, and the size of the time window itself. :\

But, carbon dioxide notwithstanding, I'll say that our global health record is telling when we have to be at least a little careful about eating too much of some kinds of seafood because of the mercury pollution that some things, such as apex predators, tend to accumulate in their bodies. If you don't care about the warming stuff, whether or not it's our doing, it still seems like a very bad idea to dump poison into our own cage - particularly into our food dish.


"Seafood"....dammit, now I want some shrimp. Mmmm, buttery shrimp......

"Global warming" causes unpredictable, and non-typical weather. I guarantee it's gotten warmer in MD over the last 40 years or so, and especially over the last 10-25. It's also gotten drier, with less precipitation year round. The cause can be argued, but it's definitely happening, and it's definitely noticeable. Nothing more scientific than working senses, and a memory is needed.

 

[Jeff7]

"Global warming" causes unpredictable, and non-typical weather. I guarantee it's gotten warmer in MD over the last 40 years or so, and especially over the last 10-25. It's also gotten drier, with less precipitation year round. The cause can be argued, but it's definitely happening, and it's definitely noticeable. Nothing more scientific than working senses, and a memory is needed.

Well the first thing I was saying was just that everyone only cries "global warming!" when it is indeed unusually warm, but there's often very little said if it's unusually cold.

The other part was that memory is not enough. This climate stuff operates on long timescales, well beyond a human lifespan.

(And besides that, I don't know about you, but I usually trust my own memory about as far as I could throw it. It's like JPEG compression, but the quality setting randomly varies from 1 to 100, with the distinct possibility of adding in random blocks of data where they don't belong. It does at least have a reasonably good track record, but I've seen how it goes about storing things. I'd rather have RAR compression, with the 10% recovery record added, stored on a RAID 6 setup.)

 

[lxskllr]

The other part was that memory is not enough. This climate stuff operates on long timescales, well beyond a human lifespan.

(And besides that, I don't know about you, but I usually trust my own memory about as far as I could throw it. It's like JPEG compression, but the quality setting randomly varies from 1 to 100, with the distinct possibility of adding in random blocks of data where they don't belong. It does at least have a reasonably good track record, but I've seen how it goes about storing things. I'd rather have RAR compression, with the 10% recovery record added, stored on a RAID 6 setup.)

Depends on what we're talking about. It's getting warmer. Is it part of some macro cycle? dunno. As far as more recent memory goes, I started working outside in the 80s. In the early days I got frostbite a couple times, and snow was frequent, with it usually being long lasting. We'd have a couple weeks at a time where it didn't get much above freezing as a high. I wore heavy overalls, and numerous layers with a heavy jacket on top. These days, I might wear a sweatshirt and a vest with something a bit more on occasion when it gets cold for a couple days.

Summers have had longer stretches of really hot weather. I don't have as keen a grasp on that, as I hate summer regardless, and anything over 80F is unbearable. My perception is longer periods of excessive warmth, and it's backed up by local records, same with precipitation.

 

[Lalakai]

serious down side to the this, is how the fruit crops (trees and shrubs) are effected. They need a certain amount of cold dormancy for the natural cycle, plus the cold weather helps reduce damage from fungus and bacteria. Once the weather breaks 42 F for more then 3 days, there's a good chance the plants will break dormancy and start rehydrating; if we get a hard cold snap after that, the added moisture in the plant tissue has a greater chance of freezing and rupturing plant cells. Bad impact on sensitive blossoms. Even if they avoid a return to freezing weather in the winter, quite often they are accelerated for grown in the spring, setting buds earlier then normal, which are even more easy to damage due to frost. Apples, cherries, blueberries, grapes, peaches, pears.............this screwy weather does nothing for helping to keep the cost down at the local market.

 

[busydude]

Looks like it's back to normal.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Back to normal here now. -30C. Question is, for how long. In fact it has been abnormally hot for quite a few years. Back when I was in school this was the norm for all of January and part of February. I wonder if this will actually last or not though.



I just tried the boiling water in the air trick and it's awesome! The water totally does vaporize. I had been wanting to try that for a long time but it was never cold enough.