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Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
and, 2000 years from now, when computers are talking about how they came about... will they say they evolved from something, or was there a supreme being who created them?

think about that.
1) I'd hope that their memory is better than ours.

2) They don't really resemble any other life forms on the planet. We've got DNA that closely resembles that of chimpanzees. Our own DNA incorporates genetic elements of ancient viruses. Our basic body structure is quite similar to that used by many other life forms on the planet.

An artificially-created life form, such as an android or robot, devoid of memories of the past, would almost certainly notice that its own makeup does not share these similarities.


Originally posted by: destrekor
so are you implying we are creations of some lifeform?
because the logic fails IMO. Unless it was some alien who decided to seed life on Earth with the necessary ingredients for RNA/DNA (of which has been proposed, as having arrived by means of a comet or other space debris)
Spacecraft launched from Earth are sterilized before launch, but only to a certain level. REALLY sterilizing absolutely everything would be time prohibitive and expensive. So the stuff we launch is mostly sterile.

So sometime in the next 50 years, we launch a fission-powered ion thruster/solar sail propelled spacecraft out toward deep space. It of course falls into some kind of temporal warp doodad, and crash-lands on Earth a little over 3 billion years ago.

Oops, we just seeded the planet...again. :p


 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Person A: I believe Vitamin C cures cancer.
Person B: Unless you can show me some evidence, you're wrong.
Person A: YOU FUCKING SMALL MINDED BIGOT! I DON'T NEED TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING! I HAVE FUCKING FAITH!

Person A: I believe God is our creator and his son Jesus died for my sins.
Person B: Unless you can show me some evidence, you're wrong.
Person A: YOU FUCKING SMALL MINDED BIGOT! I DON'T NEED TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING! I HAVE FUCKING FAITH!

how do you disprove that someone believes something?

Tits.

Person B's statement is unprovable and incorrect in EVERY single posted case. You can't prove a negative. Person B needs to take a logic course.

Person B could have said, "Unless blah, blah, blah, I'm going to continue to think you're wrong," instead, but it turns out Person B is an untutored internet weenie with an outsized axe to grind.

Silly Person B. <shakes head> Person B obviously needs to get laid.

Person B is even dumber for hanging out with that credulous retard Person A.

I think those two tards really deserve each other.

;)



 

BrownTown

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Dec 1, 2005
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Look GodlessAstronomer, your the reason Atheists are one of the most disliked minorities in this country. Just like Muslim radicals make people hate the whole religion, or environmental teroorists make people hate environmentalists YOU and idiots like you are responsible for making people hate atheists with your stupid confrontational attitude. As an atheist I do not appreciate you trying to go around picking fights with other people just because you believe your religion (or lack thereof) is somehow better than theirs. IF someone wants to believe in God that's their right as an American citizen and as long as they practice the good part of the religions (like being nice and donating to charity and stuff) I am 100% for that. IF they go and bomb an abortion clinic then we have the LAW to deal with that and it is blind to religion (in theory), so long as someones beliefs don't start trampling on your own civil rights you really shouldn't give a shit what they believe.

And lets be honest, your beliefs aren't as sure as you would like, I mean think of the big bang, personally that makes no sense to me and I don't know any of the science to support it, so any believe I might have on it is totally based on FAITH in the scientific community, same goes for alot of things if you haven't gone out and actually seen them for yourself how can you REALLY know they are there? For example we know Julius Ceaser liven around the same time as Jesus because of all the books written about him back in the day. But people also wrote books about Jesus, how can we prove one is real and one is not?
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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YOU FUCKING SMALL MINDED BIGOT! I DON'T NEED TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING! I HAVE FUCKING FAITH!
 

Molondo

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Originally posted by: BrownTown
Look GodlessAstronomer, your the reason Atheists are one of the most disliked minorities in this country. Just like Muslim radicals make people hate the whole religion, or environmental teroorists make people hate environmentalists YOU and idiots like you are responsible for making people hate atheists with your stupid confrontational attitude. As an atheist I do not appreciate you trying to go around picking fights with other people just because you believe your religion (or lack thereof) is somehow better than theirs. IF someone wants to believe in God that's their right as an American citizen and as long as they practice the good part of the religions (like being nice and donating to charity and stuff) I am 100% for that. IF they go and bomb an abortion clinic then we have the LAW to deal with that and it is blind to religion (in theory), so long as someones beliefs don't start trampling on your own civil rights you really shouldn't give a shit what they believe.

I'm american citizen and i like my steak well done, i still get crucified for it!

EDIT: Welcome to human nature!
 

Crono

Lifer
Aug 8, 2001
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I've posted in many of the same threads as you, and I've never insulted you in any way, even though I would agree with:
Person A: I believe God is our creator and his son Jesus died for my sins.

Me believing you are wrong does not mean I have to call you a bigot. Here's a :hug; and a :cookie: if anyone has said such things to you.

EDIT: And btw, the insult response isn't limited to a set of beliefs. It's standard response of a defensive person (one who isn't strong in his or her beliefs, or is merely using it for gain), and/or is ignorant. It's the immature response, and little children are the masters of it.

Kid1: My remote control car is faster than yours.
Kid2: No its not, mine is faster - look! [kid puts car to max speed]
Kid1: You're stupid and ugly.
 
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Originally posted by: Crono
Me believing you are wrong does not mean I have to call you a bigot. Here's a :hug; and a :cookie: if anyone has said such things to you.

Awwww :tear;

Can't we all just get along?
 

ed21x

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Oct 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Person A: There is a ghost sitting the the chair next to me.
Person B: Unless you can show me some evidence, you're wrong.
Person A: YOU FUCKING SMALL MINDED BIGOT! I DON'T NEED TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING! I HAVE FUCKING FAITH!

Person A: An alien spacecraft visited me last night, it was creepy as hell.
Person B: Unless you can show me some evidence, you're wrong.
Person A: YOU FUCKING SMALL MINDED BIGOT! I DON'T NEED TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING! I HAVE FUCKING FAITH!

Person A: I believe Vitamin C cures cancer.
Person B: Unless you can show me some evidence, you're wrong.
Person A: YOU FUCKING SMALL MINDED BIGOT! I DON'T NEED TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING! I HAVE FUCKING FAITH!

Person A: I believe God is our creator and his son Jesus died for my sins.
Person B: Unless you can show me some evidence, you're wrong.
Person A: YOU FUCKING SMALL MINDED BIGOT! I DON'T NEED TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING! I HAVE FUCKING FAITH!

Person A: Bigfoot is real and is planning on calling the mothership to destroy Earth.
Person B: Unless you can show me some evidence, you're wrong.
Person A: YOU FUCKING SMALL MINDED BIGOT! I DON'T NEED TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING! I HAVE FUCKING FAITH!

you make atheists looks stupid and ignorant.
 

Perknose

Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Awwww :tear;

Can't we all just get along?

In the immortal words of the inimitable Person B, "Unless you can show me some evidence, you're wrong."

:p

:laugh:

 

Proprioceptive

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Feb 27, 2006
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:facepalm:

Another "genuine" curiosity question in the form of a "you're stupid because you don't agree with me" statement. Sigh... oh well.
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: BrownTown
Look GodlessAstronomer, your the reason Atheists are one of the most disliked minorities in this country.
....

<nitpick>

GodlessAstronomer lives in New Zealand. ;)

</nitpick>


 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
and, 2000 years from now, when computers are talking about how they came about... will they say they evolved from something, or was there a supreme being who created them?

think about that.
1) I'd hope that their memory is better than ours.

2) They don't really resemble any other life forms on the planet. We've got DNA that closely resembles that of chimpanzees. Our own DNA incorporates genetic elements of ancient viruses. Our basic body structure is quite similar to that used by many other life forms on the planet.

An artificially-created life form, such as an android or robot, devoid of memories of the past, would almost certainly notice that its own makeup does not share these similarities.


Originally posted by: destrekor
so are you implying we are creations of some lifeform?
because the logic fails IMO. Unless it was some alien who decided to seed life on Earth with the necessary ingredients for RNA/DNA (of which has been proposed, as having arrived by means of a comet or other space debris)
Spacecraft launched from Earth are sterilized before launch, but only to a certain level. REALLY sterilizing absolutely everything would be time prohibitive and expensive. So the stuff we launch is mostly sterile.

So sometime in the next 50 years, we launch a fission-powered ion thruster/solar sail propelled spacecraft out toward deep space. It of course falls into some kind of temporal warp doodad, and crash-lands on Earth a little over 3 billion years ago.

Oops, we just seeded the planet...again. :p

Uh oh. So that implies whatever has happened, and is going to happen, has to happen. We were the ones to originally seed life in the first place? We're here because we made it possible for us to be here, and we're only here because... ah shit my head hurts.

We must launch that craft!!!! The space-time continuum demands we accept fate as fact! Oh dear... I need a drink. :laugh:
 

BrownTown

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Dec 1, 2005
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Look GodlessAstronomer, your the reason Atheists are one of the most disliked minorities in this country.
....

<nitpick>

GodlessAstronomer lives in New Zealand. ;)

</nitpick>

well, they probably aren't that well liked over there TBH...
 

LtPage1

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Jan 15, 2004
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: KevinCU
wut?

In one of these cases, a very large number of people consider the response to be reasonable. Why?

You know damn well why. Stop it. It bothers me too, but I can't do anything about it and I have better things to do than tell people they're idiots when it doesn't affect me at all.
 

Howard

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
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Originally posted by: Bignate603
You do realize that your constant trolling about religion makes even people that agree with you think you're stupid, don't you?
fixed

Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Person A: I believe Vitamin C cures cancer.
Person B: Unless you can show me some evidence, you're wrong.
Person A: YOU FUCKING SMALL MINDED BIGOT! I DON'T NEED TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING! I HAVE FUCKING FAITH!

Person A: I believe God is our creator and his son Jesus died for my sins.
Person B: Unless you can show me some evidence, you're wrong.
Person A: YOU FUCKING SMALL MINDED BIGOT! I DON'T NEED TO SHOW YOU ANYTHING! I HAVE FUCKING FAITH!

how do you disprove that someone believes something?

Tits.
Thank you.