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b0mbrman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: rivan
They need to pay players/owners less and lower ticket prices. Get people who love the game playing instead of people who love the money.

That already exists. You're more than welcome to watch minor league games.
 

b0mbrman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Pastore
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
football pallyers play 20-23 games a year.

stop comparing apples an oranges.

I don't care how many games a year they play, football players train MUCH harder than MLB players. And both "work" all year round so length of actual season doesn't matter much either.

Games = revenues

Do you have a breakdown of where revenue/profit comes from, by sport? It would be interesting to see how much actually comes from ticket sales/TV ads when compared to merchandise and such.

Comparing ticket prices/audience size for a Sunday football game vs. the morning half a of a Tuesday doubleheader would show that you need more than a straight games to revenue comparison...
 

b0mbrman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: cyclohexane
because any joe shmoe can learn to tackle well, given he works hard enough. Only a handful of people in the country can throw 100mph pitches accurately.

So am I to assume that you're currently earning millions (or at least hundreds of thousands) of dollars playing pro football?
 

b0mbrman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: MrChad
Originally posted by: z42
It isn't communist, it is capitalist. Owning a sports franchise is like owning a McDonalds franchise in some ways. You still have to pay to promote the product with TV ads, etc. You still have to ensure that each franchise is producing the "quality of product" so that the brand keeps to a certain standard in the mind of the public.

Yes, but McDonald's doesn't redistribute the earnings from well-performing franchises to prop up its failing stores. I understand what you're getting at though.

Yeah they do, though perhaps not directly. A Los Angeles man who eats McDonald's will recongize the brand when he drives through Amarillo.
 

Coquito

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Let the teams spend whatever they want. The A's, The Twins, Padres all have low to moderate payrolls, yet they're all in the same hunt with the Yankees, Mets, & Dodgers. The Braves, Red Sox, & White Sox failed to make the playoffs with all that money, yet the Marlins & Reds remained competative with small salaries.

It's all about the farms, management, & the overall makeup of the teams. Buying your way to the top can get you ahead, but not all the way.
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: Syringer
Was looking through some numbers here right now and uncovered some interesting things..

http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2006
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2005
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/basketba...alaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2005-06

*There are 5 teams in baseball (~25 guys) with payrolls higher than the top NFL team (~50 guys)
*The difference between the NFL's lowest payroll and highest is $60mil to $100mil, basketball it's $30mil to $94 mil...and in baseball it's $14mil to $192mil, almost 14 times higher
*The Knicks would rank #7 in the NFL and #8 in the MLB in terms of payroll for their 12 "superstars"
*Yankees payroll in 1990 was $20 mil, and has since doubled and then some about 3 times
*Eagles and Bengals are near the bottom in the NFL in payrolls, and the Raiders are #3
*From 00-05 there have been 3 instances with NFL teams' payrolls going over $100mil, in baseball there have been 18, and one instance of $200mil

Who cares?

No one puts a gun to the head of each owner requiring them to pay that much. Given that fact, obviously each owner believes he is better off paying them that much rather than not paying them that much.

Ref: the Katie Couric thread for more details about why this is a silly thread. And, I'll say it again, if you think baseball players earn too much, take their job from them.

Wow, point out to me where I said that I thought baseball players earn too much.
 

b0mbrman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: Syringer
Was looking through some numbers here right now and uncovered some interesting things..

http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2006
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2005
http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/basketba...alaries/totalpayroll.aspx?year=2005-06

*There are 5 teams in baseball (~25 guys) with payrolls higher than the top NFL team (~50 guys)
*The difference between the NFL's lowest payroll and highest is $60mil to $100mil, basketball it's $30mil to $94 mil...and in baseball it's $14mil to $192mil, almost 14 times higher
*The Knicks would rank #7 in the NFL and #8 in the MLB in terms of payroll for their 12 "superstars"
*Yankees payroll in 1990 was $20 mil, and has since doubled and then some about 3 times
*Eagles and Bengals are near the bottom in the NFL in payrolls, and the Raiders are #3
*From 00-05 there have been 3 instances with NFL teams' payrolls going over $100mil, in baseball there have been 18, and one instance of $200mil

Who cares?

No one puts a gun to the head of each owner requiring them to pay that much. Given that fact, obviously each owner believes he is better off paying them that much rather than not paying them that much.

Ref: the Katie Couric thread for more details about why this is a silly thread. And, I'll say it again, if you think baseball players earn too much, take their job from them.

Wow, point out to me where I said that I thought baseball players earn too much.

Ha ha.

If that's all you took away from my posts, then you certainly have selective ...reading...

That's always the sign of a very strong argument

Now, care to respond to the other 99% of what I said?

I get the feeling you won't. Keep this up and you might just develop a reputation for abandoning threads ;)
 

b0mbrman

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Coquito
Let the teams spend whatever they want. The A's, The Twins, Padres all have low to moderate payrolls, yet they're all in the same hunt with the Yankees, Mets, & Dodgers. The Braves, Red Sox, & White Sox failed to make the playoffs with all that money, yet the Marlins & Reds remained competative with small salaries.

It's all about the farms, management, & the overall makeup of the teams. Buying your way to the top can get you ahead, but not all the way.

Very true.

And at that, I'm sure some owners will tell you that winning isn't the only thing they care about.