Sports & fast cars are stupid.

[lobbyone]

Originally posted by: freebee
The choices we make in life are not always rational.

yeah i second that!

 

[Koing]

'Most' 16yr new drivers do not drive sports cars.

Sports & fast cars are not stupid. If you have the £££ why the hell not? Selling your house for a car or ANYTHING is stupid.

Sports are are also generally more expensive then more 'normal' type of cars. Reparing these cars is not going to be cheap. Also you get your insurance from the value of your car as the insurance company will end up having to fork out value of car or repair when and if it needs it.

Koing

 

[boyRacer]

:Q blasphemy!

 

[StageLeft]

and to be honest I've never seen a Corvette do anything irresponsible on the same crowded roads.

True, but then I don't see so many on the road Probably the most reckless engangerment I ever beheld on a public road was last year and a guy in a late model v8 firebird. He was racing around like an absolute fvcking maniac in fairly crowded traffic. Just balls to the wall in and out of traffic. A cop would have shot him to death on sight if he had of seen it.

 

[MaxFusion16]

you are getting old

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: MaxFusion16
you are getting old

Yes, the tragedy of it is that as you approach the point you can afford a nice sports car you're less likely to want one

 

[rootaxs]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

users can rattle off the horsepower of their car, even though they can get to work no sooner than somebody in the backseat of a taxi.

I'll have to disgress on that Skoorb.

When i had a rental (4cyl 127hp - i won't mention names) i drove it to/fro work for approximately a month and a half, it took me on average 1:10 minutes one way. With the Max, it takes me 45 minutes going the same route, going at the same time and pretty much keeping the same speed limit.

My guess is, with a faster car you can go from light to light just a bit faster and in most cases beat the next red light without really having to speed. Once on the highway, it's much easier to pass a slower car before running out of room to do so. Those little things can mean a lot between waiting another 3-5 minutes at the light or tagging behind a slow driver with not enough room (or power) to pass him for several miles.

 

[rootaxs]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Insane3D

See, now you are just being silly. WTF does that have to do with sports cars? Only people with fast cars do that type of thing?? What the hell do they teach you up there in Canuck land?

I'm merely saying owners of performance cars are more likely to get in an accident of their making. Ask your insurance company if you don't believe me

Not sure about the insurance company rules and statistics, but i see a lot more people driving "souped-up" econoboxes that get in an accident than people driving "sportier" cars that can go faster than those econo's.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: rootaxs

Originally posted by: Skoorb

users can rattle off the horsepower of their car, even though they can get to work no sooner than somebody in the backseat of a taxi.

I'll have to disgress on that Skoorb.

When i had a rental (4cyl 127hp - i won't mention names) i drove it to/fro work for approximately a month and a half, it took me on average 1:10 minutes one way. With the Max, it takes me 45 minutes going the same route, going at the same time and pretty much keeping the same speed limit.

My guess is, with a faster car you can go from light to light just a bit faster and in most cases beat the next red light without really having to speed. Once on the highway, it's much easier to pass a slower car before running out of room to do so. Those little things can mean a lot between waiting another 3-5 minutes at the light or tagging behind a slow driver with not enough room (or power) to pass him for several miles.

I can't see how you could literally shave off 25 minutes on a trip in the max vs. the slower 127 HP car. I could see a couple of minutes on a trip like that but 25?!

 

[rootaxs]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I honestly thought it was common sense that insurance rates were higher on sports cars due to accident claims and not a conspiracy theory about price gouging,

Sport cars are generally more expensive so the rates are also generally higher. Insurance companies base rates on so many factors that it's hard to narrow the reason down to one (e.g. it's a sports car, lets make it expensive).

Even your credit score has a *big* impact on your rates.

 

[boyRacer]

i think you have a point... especially here where most sportscars i see only go to starbucks and back... but there is a small population out there that will take their cars out to do what it was made for...

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: rootaxs

Originally posted by: Skoorb

users can rattle off the horsepower of their car, even though they can get to work no sooner than somebody in the backseat of a taxi.

I'll have to disgress on that Skoorb.

When i had a rental (4cyl 127hp - i won't mention names) i drove it to/fro work for approximately a month and a half, it took me on average 1:10 minutes one way. With the Max, it takes me 45 minutes going the same route, going at the same time and pretty much keeping the same speed limit.

My guess is, with a faster car you can go from light to light just a bit faster and in most cases beat the next red light without really having to speed. Once on the highway, it's much easier to pass a slower car before running out of room to do so. Those little things can mean a lot between waiting another 3-5 minutes at the light or tagging behind a slow driver with not enough room (or power) to pass him for several miles.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


you HONESTLY expect us to believe that you can make up 25 minutes JUST BY accelerating?? i know i can make up about 15 minutes and a 45 minute drive vs my dad (it takes him 1 hour to go the same distance) but i drive WAY more aggressive than him, faster, quicker, weaving thru traffic etc.

 

[rootaxs]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Only if he's chipped the Maxima. The computer limits the Maxima to 118 mph I believe. If your truck can get to 120, you're fine.

ZV

147mph, GPS tested to be accurate. 2k2 Maxima

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Seriously they are. Look how much money people spend on cars that go fast. 1/4 in 13.5 0-60 in 5.5. Rips up country roads. Who cares? Marketing for new cars is filled with performance numbers that the majority of people will never use. First of all it's basically illegal to do a 0-60 at the lights in 5.5 seconds anyway (ticket for display of speed).

Essentially marketing for performance cars and the decision to buy one all cater to a buyer's fantastical thoughts of someday actually driving the car fast and using its capabilities whereas in most cases they never do, and in the few cases they do if a cop sees them they'll end up losing their license anyway. And autocross and drag racing aside (something few people do), the average joe buying a performance car is throwing money into an aspect of his car he'll never use.

The argument can barely be made that the same can be said about SUVs and off roading. True, few people will use their SUV off road, but then most buyers for SUVs are buying them because it's a large beast on the road. I'm sure few of them have any idea (or care) about how it is off road, but I bet you most 350z users can rattle off the horsepower of their car, even though they can get to work no sooner than somebody in the backseat of a taxi.

So go buy a 1970 VW bus because you clearly have no clue what a car enthusiast seeks in a car or the joy he/she obtains through the sheer joy of driving it.

Thanks for your opinion though. I will file it in that rectangular filing bin underneath my desk where it belongs.

 

[rootaxs]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: rootaxs

Originally posted by: Skoorb

users can rattle off the horsepower of their car, even though they can get to work no sooner than somebody in the backseat of a taxi.

I'll have to disgress on that Skoorb.

When i had a rental (4cyl 127hp - i won't mention names) i drove it to/fro work for approximately a month and a half, it took me on average 1:10 minutes one way. With the Max, it takes me 45 minutes going the same route, going at the same time and pretty much keeping the same speed limit.

My guess is, with a faster car you can go from light to light just a bit faster and in most cases beat the next red light without really having to speed. Once on the highway, it's much easier to pass a slower car before running out of room to do so. Those little things can mean a lot between waiting another 3-5 minutes at the light or tagging behind a slow driver with not enough room (or power) to pass him for several miles.

I can't see how you could literally shave off 25 minutes on a trip in the max vs. the slower 127 HP car. I could see a couple of minutes on a trip like that but 25?!

15 miles of city streets with a stoplight every half mile. At a minimum of 3 minutes/light, that's already 21 minutes right there. 25 minutes is possible

Btw, i'm not hating you for the thread - it's actually quite interesting.

 

[SammyBoy]

Nissans are stupid. Sentras are the cheapest feeling cars I've ever been in.

I get from point A to B faster than mere mortals, I have more fun, I'm proud of my ride, and I get 26 miles to the gallon at 3200RPMs in 5th which is my preferred cruising speed

 

[rootaxs]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: rootaxs

Originally posted by: Skoorb

users can rattle off the horsepower of their car, even though they can get to work no sooner than somebody in the backseat of a taxi.

I'll have to disgress on that Skoorb.

When i had a rental (4cyl 127hp - i won't mention names) i drove it to/fro work for approximately a month and a half, it took me on average 1:10 minutes one way. With the Max, it takes me 45 minutes going the same route, going at the same time and pretty much keeping the same speed limit.

My guess is, with a faster car you can go from light to light just a bit faster and in most cases beat the next red light without really having to speed. Once on the highway, it's much easier to pass a slower car before running out of room to do so. Those little things can mean a lot between waiting another 3-5 minutes at the light or tagging behind a slow driver with not enough room (or power) to pass him for several miles.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


you HONESTLY expect us to believe that you can make up 25 minutes JUST BY accelerating?? i know i can make up about 15 minutes and a 45 minute drive vs my dad (it takes him 1 hour to go the same distance) but i drive WAY more aggressive than him, faster, quicker, weaving thru traffic etc.

I don't expect anyone to believe me, i'm posting based on experience. It's up to you to believe it or not. I'm not posting to prove anything.

 

[ajpa123]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
The argument can barely be made that the same can be said about SUVs and off roading. True, few people will use their SUV off road, but then most buyers for SUVs are buying them because it's a large beast on the road. I'm sure few of them have any idea (or care) about how it is off road.

I agree with you that SUV's are bought by people who need a vehicle that performs well in inclement weather and will protect themselves and their children in the event of an accident. Only a small percentage of the population off roads.

I was in a Lincoln Navigator today. I like how safe i felt, the beast drives and handles well too. Even though they are gas-hogs, i now see why they are so popular !

AJ.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: rootaxs

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: rootaxs

Originally posted by: Skoorb

users can rattle off the horsepower of their car, even though they can get to work no sooner than somebody in the backseat of a taxi.

I'll have to disgress on that Skoorb.

When i had a rental (4cyl 127hp - i won't mention names) i drove it to/fro work for approximately a month and a half, it took me on average 1:10 minutes one way. With the Max, it takes me 45 minutes going the same route, going at the same time and pretty much keeping the same speed limit.

My guess is, with a faster car you can go from light to light just a bit faster and in most cases beat the next red light without really having to speed. Once on the highway, it's much easier to pass a slower car before running out of room to do so. Those little things can mean a lot between waiting another 3-5 minutes at the light or tagging behind a slow driver with not enough room (or power) to pass him for several miles.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA


you HONESTLY expect us to believe that you can make up 25 minutes JUST BY accelerating?? i know i can make up about 15 minutes and a 45 minute drive vs my dad (it takes him 1 hour to go the same distance) but i drive WAY more aggressive than him, faster, quicker, weaving thru traffic etc.

I don't expect anyone to believe me, i'm posting based on experience. It's up to you to believe it or not. I'm not posting to prove anything.

I don't believe you...

 

[lowfatbaconboy]

living in a suburb of dallas where there are alot of rich people i have seen tons of corvettes, z06s, m3s, porshes, and some ferraris and others (ie i would see at least 3 vettes, couple porsche carreras, and 1-2 m3s A DAY)
and most of them drove around as normal as everyone else
the people that drove the worst were teenagers..... either girls driving really stupid and not paying attention or some guys driving around in old civics and other crappy crappy econoboxes swerving in and out of traffic REALLY fast like it was no ones business .....(there were also rich teens driving around really crazy in expensive cars to but i more often saw the teens in crappy cars driving worse)


edit:

I don't believe you...

i don't believe him either......i can understand speeding and shaving off time of a trip across interstate to a destination far away but in high traffic areas i can't see shaving that much time off unless you poped a tire every day in the 4cyl and had to change it

 

[amok]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Insane3D

Ok, this is what I was talking about. You just won't understand no matter what. No offense here at all, but are you really trying to say that all people that drive performance vehicles drive fast and reckless, and all people that drive everything else drive safe? C'mon man. I went ot Florida once and there were 80 year olds driving around in V8 Mustangs and Vette's at about 10 MPH BELOW the speed limit at all times..

Generalizing is rarely accurate.

But why did they buy these vetts and mustang GTs if they can't even use the speed...?

insurance companies have an agenda. that's like asking a fat kid if pizza is better for you than carrots. he KNOWS it's better, but he LIKES pizza, so he's going to say hell no pizza is much better for you. the insurance companies want to get more money, so "sports" cars and suvs are more dangerous, hence they can collect more money. welcome to america!

Oh come on, insurance costs more on a sports car because people get in more accidents with them. Any agenda takes a back seat to the statistical proof behind that. If you've got a guy in a 100 horsepower car and another in a 350 horsepower that looks the part, you can bet on the second guy getting into more accidents.

Hehe, I've actually been in more wrecks in sedans than in sports cars. Granted, the only wreck I've had since I was a teenager was in a sports car about a year and a half ago (I think, could've been longer). But that was caused because I decided that not running over someone's pet was more important than not wrapping my car around a tree. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but the look on my insurance person's face after I announced that my car was totalled and they were going to have to buy me a new one couldn't have been much worse than some little kid's at the news that mr. bill was dead .

As for not using cars to their limits, you're kidding, right? Lol, I have an Uncle that lives about 120 miles away that I go visit every couple of months. The reason I love going to visit my uncle? A 17 mile stretch of the most beautiful curvy road on the planet where you can see through every turn except one for other traffic, and it is very lightly populated. Early in the morning I can drive that road however I wish without risking anyone other than myself (and somebody's pet dog or cat). There's one turn there you go into in 3rd gear, accelerate through it, whip around it fast enough that it feels like you are about to break your restraints and get thrown through the window into the ditch, right on the edge of losing contact with the road, and are almost able to hit 6th gear on the straight stretch that follows it before you have to start down-shifting again for the next curve. If you can't understand why I love my car, then you just won't get it.

 

[GoHAnSoN]

Originally posted by: freebee
The choices we make in life are not always rational.

agree, smoking shortened life...still.....