Sports and the '80's and '90's. Gretzky, Montana, Jordan
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I think that is because football is more of a team sport than Hockey and Basketball. One player can not have as much impact in Football.
no, sampras never won the french.
i'm not even talking grand slam (all 4 in one year). he needed to have won it at least ONCE to be considered an all time great.
otherwise, he's in with a host of other great players, but he isn't an all time great.
ironically, his sidekick Agassi (yes, sampras was the better of the 2) DID win on all four surfaces.
I think in the NBA there are a lot of atheletes that are just as good, if not better, and in more shape than Jordan was. However, the only thing (and the big thing) that sets Jordan apart from most of these players today was his drive and determination. That's what made him great.
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and they are more capable of stopping the standouts. If you watch hockey, it is most evident. Throw a check into the guy and see if he's still willing to dipsy-doo with the puck like that anymore... that stuff is left to pond hockey now. Gone are the days of Gretzky and Lemieux type dominance because they have someone draped on them moreso than the old days. You can attribute that to the defensive schemes just as much, but you gotta be able to catch them first. For a while, Jaromir Jagr was easily the most dominant player on the ice. This was because he could protect the puck like no other with his strength and make creative plays - then a lot of defenders caught up to him in the gym. There's quite a few defenseman who can take him one-on-one. Even Pavel Kubina.
I don't think I need to mention bigger/faster/stronger for baseball... there's some issue there when multiple guys hit over 50 homeruns in a season. Friggin Soriano just missed 40-40 one year, didn't he ? There's no room for just one or two stars anymore..
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
no, sampras never won the french.
i'm not even talking grand slam (all 4 in one year). he needed to have won it at least ONCE to be considered an all time great.
otherwise, he's in with a host of other great players, but he isn't an all time great.
ironically, his sidekick Agassi (yes, sampras was the better of the 2) DID win on all four surfaces.
If this stat is wrong then disregard, but hasn't Sampras won the most majors ever? regardless of the slam aspect, that alone puts him second then to the person who did the slam and has more than 8 or so I say.
Didn't he also 3-peat Wimbledon?
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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
no, sampras never won the french.
i'm not even talking grand slam (all 4 in one year). he needed to have won it at least ONCE to be considered an all time great.
otherwise, he's in with a host of other great players, but he isn't an all time great.
ironically, his sidekick Agassi (yes, sampras was the better of the 2) DID win on all four surfaces.
If this stat is wrong then disregard, but hasn't Sampras won the most majors ever? regardless of the slam aspect, that alone puts him second then to the person who did the slam and has more than 8 or so I say.
Didn't he also 3-peat Wimbledon?
i thought he was tied for the most. i kind of stopped following him towards the end of his career.
ok, i looked it up, Sampras has the most Grand Slam Titles at 14. it's interesting to note that Agassi has 8 grand slam titles. he isn't too shaby either.
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
no, sampras never won the french.
i'm not even talking grand slam (all 4 in one year). he needed to have won it at least ONCE to be considered an all time great.
otherwise, he's in with a host of other great players, but he isn't an all time great.
ironically, his sidekick Agassi (yes, sampras was the better of the 2) DID win on all four surfaces.
NOT an all time great???Sampras
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