If I'm wiring my house with cat 6, can I just run one cat 6 cable down my house to my basement and then split each end of the cat 6 cable into 10 cat 5e since cat 6 is 10gb and cat 5e is 1gb?
Splitting cat 6 cable
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Not necessarily? U can get a hub for cat 5e and split 1 cable into more than one. Are there any similar stuff for cat 6 that split it into cat 5e
But I don't need a switch, all I need is to split a cat 6 into seperate 1gb cables since one cat 6 is 10gb
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You can't split it like that. That's just not how it works.
You could use a hub indeed. Don't let anyone tell you differently. The problem is: nobody makes ethernet-hubs anymore. You'll need a switch, because that's the only thing you can buy these days. Don't worry, they are cheap.
In theory, the best solution would be to have a switch with 1x 10Gbps port and 10x 1Gbps ports. However, that's just theory. In practice that would cost you a few hundred euros or dollars. Don't do that.
The good news: it is no problem at all if you use a cheap Gigabit-ethernet-switch. Put the switch in the basement. (It'll need electricity, beware). Plug in the one cable going down in the basement in any of the ports. And then plug all the cables from the other devices also in the switch. That should work. No configuration required.
In theory this is not an optimal solution to maximize your bandwidth. But in reality, it's no problem at all. All your devices can transfer data at 1Gbps speeds. It's just when 2 or more devices try to use the full bandwidth, they need to share it. Unless you do something special, that's no problem at all.
So: buy a cheap switch. Might cost you a dozen, or a few dozen bucks. Put it in the basement. Plug all cables into the switch. Done.
You could use a hub indeed. Don't let anyone tell you differently. The problem is: nobody makes ethernet-hubs anymore. You'll need a switch, because that's the only thing you can buy these days. Don't worry, they are cheap.
In theory, the best solution would be to have a switch with 1x 10Gbps port and 10x 1Gbps ports. However, that's just theory. In practice that would cost you a few hundred euros or dollars. Don't do that.
The good news: it is no problem at all if you use a cheap Gigabit-ethernet-switch. Put the switch in the basement. (It'll need electricity, beware). Plug in the one cable going down in the basement in any of the ports. And then plug all the cables from the other devices also in the switch. That should work. No configuration required.
In theory this is not an optimal solution to maximize your bandwidth. But in reality, it's no problem at all. All your devices can transfer data at 1Gbps speeds. It's just when 2 or more devices try to use the full bandwidth, they need to share it. Unless you do something special, that's no problem at all.
So: buy a cheap switch. Might cost you a dozen, or a few dozen bucks. Put it in the basement. Plug all cables into the switch. Done.
Well the setup is that in the basement I have all my network and I'm wiring the house to plug devices like our tv, Apple TV, and PS3 and also pc in another room. So I thought their would be a way I could run one Ethernet cable to our living room and use a cat 6 Hub to connect all other devices instead of running a few sepereate Ethernet cables
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You can simply run one CAT6 cable (or two for future proofing) and for now, put a Gigabit switch in your living room (5 port or 8 port are both cheap). That will be enough bandwidth for your current needs (unless you're doing huge file transfers or backups) and you can later convert to 10Gbit equipment (switches, NIC's, etc) when the price comes down. That's just what I did (this past summer).
<--------------Cat6 cable ------------------->[8 port Gbit switch]<-------------Multiple CAT5 (or CAT6 if you wish) cables going to devices ----->
By the way, are you running CAT6 (10Gbit rated at shorter runs) or CAT6A (true 10Gbit rated at full run length)?
<--------------Cat6 cable ------------------->[8 port Gbit switch]<-------------Multiple CAT5 (or CAT6 if you wish) cables going to devices ----->
By the way, are you running CAT6 (10Gbit rated at shorter runs) or CAT6A (true 10Gbit rated at full run length)?
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I think things are being confused by using the term "split". Yes, you can run one cable. Once in that room, you need to use a switch (not a hub) to "split" it.
In regards to connection speed, speed is determined by the slowest component. If you run Cat 6 everywhere, you will still need 10gb switches and NICs.
Engineer is right, you are on the right track...I would just forget about 10gbps and focus on building a 1gb setup. Afterward, you can decide whether its worth the price/effort to upgrade.
But what I'm trying to do with all this is have the infrastructure of my house be cat 6 and one cat 6 cable for all the places in my house since it would have enough bandwidth. I also need devices like my pc to have a sepereate gigabit connection since I will be doing file transfer with it.
The cheapest switch I found is a Cisco 10gigabit switch for 170$. Seems a bit too expensive since I'd be better off spending less by running seperate cat 5e cables to each device. But that would be a lot more difficult to do in our house.
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Then you could get 10Gbit switches (both basement) and living room and connect multiple 1Gbit cables to your devices in your living room. Note that 10Gbit switches cost around $100 per port (8 port switch will cost $800) and you would need two of them. Gigabit switches costs starting at $10 for a 5 port switch and $15 for an 8 port switch.
I put a 16 port Zyxel GS1900-16 semi-managed (smart) gigabit switch in my house for $29.99 (super special at Newegg). I placed a $13 - 8 port TP-Link metal switch in my living room for my WMC setup (PC, tuners, router, access point, etc).
Well I found this cisco switch for 170$ Cisco SG300-10 10-port Gigabit Managed Switch (SRW2008-K9-NA) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0041ORN6U/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_CxUiwb20V02J7.
But then I will need 2 of these and that's too much to spend since I need connect one end of the cable to this in the basement and then connect it to my gigabit switch with all my other stuff connected to that. Then, I will need the second 10 gigabit switch in my living room and connect all my devices to that
But then I will need 2 of these and that's too much to spend since I need connect one end of the cable to this in the basement and then connect it to my gigabit switch with all my other stuff connected to that. Then, I will need the second 10 gigabit switch in my living room and connect all my devices to that
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You can still use CAT6 cables (for future proofing). I would run two cables. One for general stuff (connected to a switch) and one directly to the PC (for full speed file transfers at 1Gbit). Later, you can chance the NIC to a 10Gbit NIC and the switch to a 10GBit switch(s) and upgrade the speed.
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That is not a 10Gbit switch. That is a 10 port - gigabit (per port) switch.
This is an example of a 10Gbit (10Gbe) switch: http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-ProSA...8&qid=1445127974&sr=8-1&keywords=10gbe+switch
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I could do that, but I think you misunderstood the problem. The reason I'm running a cat 6 cable was so I only have to run 1 cable and utilize the speed of it and connect up to 10 devices and maintain 1 gigabit for each device. I don't really need any device to run at 10 gigabit speed
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I understand fully what you want. You'll still need two (2) 10 gigabit switches to get the link between them.
[10 Gbit switch in basement]<----CAT6----->[10 Gbit switch in Living Room]<----CAT5e or CAT6------> multiple devices running 1Gbit each.
With that said, You might be able to get gigabit switches with a 10Gbe uplink port on them. You could get two of those and do the trick. Assuming they exist, they would have general 1Gbit ports and one port for 10Gbe connections between switches. (I'll look around - probably still expensive).
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Yes that's what I need. How come they don't make any 10 gigabit hubs? That would easily solve my problem and be so cheap
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1 Gbps is really fast. For comparison, a HD-tv-stream is less than 10 Mbps. You say you want 1 Gbps per PC. Note that the bandwidth is not statically divided (like with time division multiplexing or frequency multiplexing). With packet-switching (which is TCP/IP and Ethernet), if only one device needs that 1Gbps, it will get it anyway. Having more than 1 Gbps of bandwidth only makes sense if you have 2 file-transfers at the same time *and* you really need the transfers to finish in a certain time.
Also, often file-transfers will be limited by something else than just the speed of Ethernet. Most likely slow hard-disks. When I did CIFS copies from my PC (which is fast) to a NAS (which is probably slow), I couldn't even fill half the bandwidth of 1Gbps. If I were you, I'd do some benchmarks before investing hundreds of dollars for a network you won't really use. Again, 1Gbps equipment is cheap and fast. 10Gbps is a lot more expensive, and you might not even need it.
Also, often file-transfers will be limited by something else than just the speed of Ethernet. Most likely slow hard-disks. When I did CIFS copies from my PC (which is fast) to a NAS (which is probably slow), I couldn't even fill half the bandwidth of 1Gbps. If I were you, I'd do some benchmarks before investing hundreds of dollars for a network you won't really use. Again, 1Gbps equipment is cheap and fast. 10Gbps is a lot more expensive, and you might not even need it.
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Hubs are crap. A 10Gb hub would only allow one device to talk at a time. a 10Gb switch (essentially an upgraded hub) will allow multiple 10Gb devices to talk at a time. Even if you used 1Gbit connections to a 10Gb hub (assuming one existed), every device would have to stop and wait for the device currently sending/receiving to finish before they can talk. Packet collisions galore!!!
The problem is that 10Gbe stuff (NICS, switches, etc) are just not mainstream and are expensive. As faster broadband becomes available, that will change (Chattanooga just introduced 10Gbit broadband to their residents for $300 per month).
Another solution to give you 'better' bandwidth is to buy two smart gigabit switches with link aggregation, connect them with multiple cables (two or more), set up the aggregation and have multiple gigabit connections bonded between the switches. You won't be able to have any one connection go above 1Gbit but if you are saturating one of the connections, the other one will be available to offload the remaining devices and not completely stop them. Smart switches (gigabit) are relatively cheap.
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Two my understanding a hub just splits the speed. So a gigabit Hub with let's say 5 ports would give each of the 5 ports 100mb speed regardless if a device is using their 100mb or not
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