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Splicing or Tying Recovery Straps

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Why would you waste money on recovery straps, if you're attaching them to a pair of cinder blocks? Some decent twine would be adequate. Spend the money on a third cinder block instead. Recovery straps would be overkill.
 
DrPizza said:
Why would you waste money on recovery straps, if you're attaching them to a pair of cinder blocks? Some decent twine would be adequate. Spend the money on a third cinder block instead. Recovery straps would be overkill.
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I want to use straps so it doesn't damage the roots (unless thick ropes are large enough to prevent damage). This is basically holding an entire tree in the ground since they have very poor root systems.

If ropes are the way to go, what would be the best way to hold them together with the block?

Thanks
 
turtile said:
Whats the best way to connect the straps together so they can take a good amount of load?

The cinder blocks have holes in them. I need to tie a loop to hold the strap to the block.
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You're not going to have a "good amount of load" with two cinder blocks. Recovery straps have a tensile strength in the 1000's of pounds.
 
Wait... you're attaching to the roots?? What kind of tree? Height of tree? Diameter of tree trunk?
 
Anyhow, google for how to stake a tree. That's what you would probably want to do.
 
DrPizza said:
Wait... you're attaching to the roots?? What kind of tree? Height of tree? Diameter of tree trunk?
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Emerald green arborvitae, tall and skinny - around 10ft now. (doing t he work for a client). The trees weren't properly installed on a small slope and since they are planted in grass with too much irrigation water and fertilizer, the root systems never really took off.

I have no system available to me so I have to build my own. Root anchoring is the best and it's recommended to use wood (all temporary). I can see this happening over and over again.

I'll be burying the blocks under the ground.
 
DrPizza said:
Anyhow, google for how to stake a tree. That's what you would probably want to do.
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Above ground staking for this type of tree would lead to more damage due to its growth habits (large central leaders). Since I live in an area with very little supplies, I have to make my own system.
 
If you're hell-bent on using straps to do this...the BEST way to attach one strap to another is with an appropriately sized anchor shackle.

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You COULD always use wooden stakes and heavy wire...with the part of the wire that connects to the tree run through a piece of garden hose to protect the tree...Run the wire in a loop around the stake and part of the tree being staked...then, using a large screwdriver, steel rod, or something similar, twist the wire loop around itself to tighten.
 
turtile said:
Emerald green arborvitae, tall and skinny - around 10ft now. (doing t he work for a client). The trees weren't properly installed on a small slope and since they are planted in grass with too much irrigation water and fertilizer, the root systems never really took off.

I have no system available to me so I have to build my own. Root anchoring is the best and it's recommended to use wood (all temporary). I can see this happening over and over again.

I'll be burying the blocks under the ground.
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This is called a deadman anchor (or sleeper). You kind of sound like you're operating under the assumption that the blocks are used as weighted anchors, which isn't the case. The anchors are intended to not be pulled out of the ground, which is why wood would work much better, as it can easily provide more surface area and more resistance to being lifted from the ground when buried.

Google it. Most of what I find online shows the anchors using strapping run over the top of the root ball, not directly attached to the roots.
 
DrPizza said:
You're not going to have a "good amount of load" with two cinder blocks. Recovery straps have a tensile strength in the 1000's of pounds.
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25,000 lbs for the one I keep in my truck. Also, cinderblocks compared to the weight of even a small tree... lol.
 
Carson Dyle said:
This is called a deadman anchor (or sleeper). You kind of sound like you're operating under the assumption that the blocks are used as weighted anchors, which isn't the case. The anchors are intended to not be pulled out of the ground, which is why wood would work much better, as it can easily provide more surface area and more resistance to being lifted from the ground when buried.

Google it. Most of what I find online shows the anchors using strapping run over the top of the root ball, not directly attached to the roots.
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Markbnj said:
25,000 lbs for the one I keep in my truck. Also, cinderblocks compared to the weight of even a small tree... lol.
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Yup, over the root ball. Roots would just tear! I ended up using ratchet straps and wood. I was thinking about using cinder blocks over wood since wood deteriorates, not because they are heavy.

It turns out, one of the trees are so damaged, I'll have to do an above ground stake anyway!
 
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