Spiritual folk now have evidence supporting other 'worlds'

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Ok... let me get this straight...

Theory of evolution = fact
String theory = "un-provable opinion"

Interesting...

No, you don't have it straight.

The theory of evolution is not a fact. If anyone says so, they don't know what they're talking about. The theory of evoltion is supported by facts, but they do not prove the theory in its entirety. It IS provable somehow (timetravel or something).

String theory is also a theory. It is supported by the fact that the equations it is based on offer solutions which very nicely explain the fundamental forces and particles, and make predictions supported by other well tested theories. It is provable as well (or disprovable if you like), but not with current technology.

 

[PanzerIV]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
I won't discount anything... the universe is a lot more complex than we could ever comprehend, so I am sure there are things out there that I couldn't comprehend.

My contention as well. It's hard to say what is and isn't impossible based upon our very limited knowledge of the world around us. We think we know so much but the reality is we know nothing.

 

[SackOfAllTrades]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: SackOfAllTrades

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: SackOfAllTrades
i just love how you label a "theory" as "evidence"

I love how you don't know what a theory is.

A theory is a hypothesis strongly supported by evidence.

Hypothesis = educated guess
Theory = well tested and supported hypothesis
Law = Theory to the next level 🙂

define evidence now, obviously i'm not gonna survive the next round of Darwinism

I'm sure you can use dictionary.com

awww cmon...you know you want to....

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: PanzerIV

Originally posted by: MacBaine
I won't discount anything... the universe is a lot more complex than we could ever comprehend, so I am sure there are things out there that I couldn't comprehend.

My contention as well. It's hard to say what is and isn't impossible based upon our very limited knowledge of the world around us. We think we know so much but the reality is we know nothing.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: SackOfAllTrades
i just love how you label a "theory" as "evidence"

I love how you don't know what a theory is.

A theory is a hypothesis strongly supported by evidence.

Hypothesis = educated guess
Theory = well tested and supported hypothesis
Law = Theory to the next level 🙂

A theory is also a un-provable opinion.

Does Einsteins theory of Relativity ring a bell?

Uh, no. It's not. General Relativity has tested accurate with every single experiment ever performed to test it. There has not been one single instance of a contradiction. It's practically on the verge of being called a law (actually, it should be, as it extends newton's laws of gravity).

Theory is a much stronger word than people give it credit to be. It's not just some random guess out of thin air.

 

[CarlKillerMiller]

Originally posted by: CPA
I like silly string.





ooops, you said superstring...sorry 😱

So I'm not the only one who thought that.

 

[Yzzim]

Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

heh heh...good one...I was waiting for someone to do that. 😀

 

[Yzzim]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

heh heh...good one...I was waiting for someone to do that. 😀

yes, hilarious

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

heh heh...good one...I was waiting for someone to do that. 😀

yes, hilarious

Oh wait...please tell me you did mean that as a joke!!

You *can't* be serious about basing all evidence in an ancient book that's comprised of various stories from various cultures?!?!?

 

[ryzmah]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: SackOfAllTrades
i just love how you label a "theory" as "evidence"

I love how you don't know what a theory is.

A theory is a hypothesis strongly supported by evidence.

Hypothesis = educated guess
Theory = well tested and supported hypothesis
Law = Theory to the next level 🙂

A theory is also a un-provable opinion.

Does Einsteins theory of Relativity ring a bell?

Uh, no. It's not. General Relativity has tested accurate with every single experiment ever performed to test it. There has not been one single instance of a contradiction. It's practically on the verge of being called a law (actually, it should be, as it extends newton's laws of gravity).

Theory is a much stronger word than people give it credit to be. It's not just some random guess out of thin air.

What are you talking about? General relativity is known to have direct conflicts with quantum theory, and is inaccurate in the areas quantum theory is accurate (atomic level). General relativity assumes a nonlinear universe and works at modeling on a large scale, but quantum theory states that the universe is linear and experiments support that view. A second problem exists in that there is no means to define local energy in general relativity.

These are some of the reasons that there is still a search for a unified field theory.

 

[Yzzim]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

heh heh...good one...I was waiting for someone to do that. 😀

yes, hilarious

Oh wait...please tell me you did mean that as a joke!!

You *can't* be serious about basing all evidence in an ancient book that's comprised of various stories from various cultures?!?!?

have you ever looked into the Bible and see how every book relates to another? It's not just a story here about how you should be good, and story there about how heaven is good, and another story there about how hell is bad. It's a very, very deep book with so many underlying references it'll make your head spin.

It's like the Matrix x 1000. 😉

edit: punctuation!

 

[ryzmah]

Originally posted by: RossGr
Super string theory remains unverified and in fact is unverifiable with current technology. So to extrapolate a metaphysical realm, that is by definition unverifiable, from an unverified theory requires a lot of faith. Then again the religious types are accustom to this.

Are you sure that it is unverifiable? As I understood it, superstring theorists believe that by the end of the decade there will be an identifiable deviation from Standard Model expectations at the Large Hadron Collider in Geneva - if it occurs it would be strong evidence for the theory, if it doesn't then the theory as it currently stands would be shown false.

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

heh heh...good one...I was waiting for someone to do that. 😀

yes, hilarious

Oh wait...please tell me you did mean that as a joke!!

You *can't* be serious about basing all evidence in an ancient book that's comprised of various stories from various cultures?!?!?

have you ever looked into the Bible and see how every book relates to another? It's not just a story here about how you should be good, and story there about how heaven is good, and another story there about how hell is bad. It's a very, very deep book with so many underlying references it'll make your head spin.

It's like the Matrix x 1000. 😉

edit: punctuation!

Hi!

My Hinduism is older than your Christianity. Therefore, by your logic, since it's endured for longer than your religion, it must be more true. My religion is the uber-matrix that your matrix was created in.

that is all

Gooooooo Krishna!!!

 

Is this where I sign up for the operation?????

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

heh heh...good one...I was waiting for someone to do that. 😀

yes, hilarious

Oh wait...please tell me you did mean that as a joke!!

You *can't* be serious about basing all evidence in an ancient book that's comprised of various stories from various cultures?!?!?

have you ever looked into the Bible and see how every book relates to another? It's not just a story here about how you should be good, and story there about how heaven is good, and another story there about how hell is bad. It's a very, very deep book with so many underlying references it'll make your head spin.

It's like the Matrix x 1000. 😉

edit: punctuation!

12 years of Catholic schooling including a Scripture course...I think I understand more than a superficial amount of the Bible.

 

[Yzzim]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

heh heh...good one...I was waiting for someone to do that. 😀

yes, hilarious

Oh wait...please tell me you did mean that as a joke!!

You *can't* be serious about basing all evidence in an ancient book that's comprised of various stories from various cultures?!?!?

have you ever looked into the Bible and see how every book relates to another? It's not just a story here about how you should be good, and story there about how heaven is good, and another story there about how hell is bad. It's a very, very deep book with so many underlying references it'll make your head spin.

It's like the Matrix x 1000. 😉

edit: punctuation!

Hi!

My Hinduism is older than your Christianity. Therefore, by your logic, since it's endured for longer than your religion, it must be more true. My religion is the uber-matrix that your matrix was created in.

that is all

whoa, talk about jumping to conclusions.

First off I never said I was Christian, you just assumed it. Seconldy, I never said that I'm a Christian only because it's the belief that has lasted the longest and it is the oldest.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Welcome to eight years ago.

ZV

 

[Savij]

Originally posted by: Yzzimwhoa, talk about jumping to conclusions.

First off I never said I was Christian, you just assumed it. Seconldy, I never said that I'm a Christian only because it's the belief that has lasted the longest and it is the oldest.

Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

You're right, I don't know what made me think you're christian... And second, I'm simply commenting on the "it's old therefore it must be true" statement you made

 

[DurocShark]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

heh heh...good one...I was waiting for someone to do that. 😀

yes, hilarious

Oh wait...please tell me you did mean that as a joke!!

You *can't* be serious about basing all evidence in an ancient book that's comprised of various stories from various cultures?!?!?

have you ever looked into the Bible and see how every book relates to another? It's not just a story here about how you should be good, and story there about how heaven is good, and another story there about how hell is bad. It's a very, very deep book with so many underlying references it'll make your head spin.

It's like the Matrix x 1000. 😉

edit: punctuation!

Hi!

My Hinduism is older than your Christianity. Therefore, by your logic, since it's endured for longer than your religion, it must be more true. My religion is the uber-matrix that your matrix was created in.

that is all

Gooooooo Krishna!!!

pwn3d

 

[Broohaha]

Originally posted by: DurocShark

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith. I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA heh heh...good one...I was waiting for someone to do that. 😀

yes, hilarious

Oh wait...please tell me you did mean that as a joke!! You *can't* be serious about basing all evidence in an ancient book that's comprised of various stories from various cultures?!?!?

have you ever looked into the Bible and see how every book relates to another? It's not just a story here about how you should be good, and story there about how heaven is good, and another story there about how hell is bad. It's a very, very deep book with so many underlying references it'll make your head spin. It's like the Matrix x 1000. 😉 edit: punctuation!

Hi! My Hinduism is older than your Christianity. Therefore, by your logic, since it's endured for longer than your religion, it must be more true. My religion is the uber-matrix that your matrix was created in. that is all Gooooooo Krishna!!!

pwn3d

 

[DurocShark]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Yzzim
Doesn't matter, I don't need any evidence from current day "scientists" to support my faith.

I've got the Bible which has endured for at least 2,000 years....it's all the evidence I need.

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

heh heh...good one...I was waiting for someone to do that. 😀

yes, hilarious

Oh wait...please tell me you did mean that as a joke!!

You *can't* be serious about basing all evidence in an ancient book that's comprised of various stories from various cultures?!?!?

have you ever looked into the Bible and see how every book relates to another? It's not just a story here about how you should be good, and story there about how heaven is good, and another story there about how hell is bad. It's a very, very deep book with so many underlying references it'll make your head spin.

It's like the Matrix x 1000. 😉

edit: punctuation!

Hi!

My Hinduism is older than your Christianity. Therefore, by your logic, since it's endured for longer than your religion, it must be more true. My religion is the uber-matrix that your matrix was created in.

that is all

Gooooooo Krishna!!!

pwn3d

 

[SirFshAlot]

Originally posted by: RossGr
Super string theory remains unverified and in fact is unverifiable with current technology. So to extrapolate a metaphysical realm, that is by definition unverifiable, from an unverified theory requires a lot of faith. Then again the religious types are accustom to this.

that was kinda what I was trying to say in my own..........'idiom'?

 

[RossGr]

Originally posted by: ryzmah

Originally posted by: RossGr
Super string theory remains unverified and in fact is unverifiable with current technology. So to extrapolate a metaphysical realm, that is by definition unverifiable, from an unverified theory requires a lot of faith. Then again the religious types are accustom to this.

Are you sure that it is unverifiable? As I understood it, super string theorists believe that by the end of the decade there will be an identifiable deviation from Standard Model expectations at the Large Hadron Collider in Geneva - if it occurs it would be strong evidence for the theory, if it doesn't then the theory as it currently stands would be shown false.

Please not the clause "with current technology". It is my understanding that until we have colliders with significantly higher energy we will not be able to probe into the realm of super string only predictions. When will these colliders be built?