Spielberg foresees 'implosion' of film industry

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BUTCH1

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From the blog: "The pathway to get into theaters is really getting smaller and smaller," Lucas said."

Of course, with LCD sets spiraling down in price and blu-ray playback, the future of movies might just be direct to consumer, the traditional theater might go the way of the drive-in..
 

Cuda1447

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Here's a crazy idea. Movie prices come down because the product isn't worth the price and we have better options.


" But the movies cost to much to produce! "

- Well, I guess you'll have to produce them for less. AKA actors make less money. I'm going to be so sad when they pay Tom Cruise 5 million a movie instead of 20. And now the budget has been cut in half.
 
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Here's a crazy idea. Movie prices come down because the product isn't worth the price and we have better options.


" But the movies cost to much to produce! "

- Well, I guess you'll have to produce them for less. AKA actors make less money. I'm going to be so sad when they pay Tom Cruise 5 million a movie instead of 20. And now the budget has been cut in half.

I dont think saving 10-15mil on your star actor really makes a difference when movies cost like half a billion to make.
 

BUTCH1

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Here's a crazy idea. Movie prices come down because the product isn't worth the price and we have better options.


" But the movies cost to much to produce! "

- Well, I guess you'll have to produce them for less. AKA actors make less money. I'm going to be so sad when they pay Tom Cruise 5 million a movie instead of 20. And now the budget has been cut in half.

How about some great old-fashioned storytelling instead of a special-effects competition. Or not re-using the same crap (cough Superman, cough) over and over..
 
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How about some great old-fashioned storytelling instead of a special-effects competition. Or not re-using the same crap (cough Superman, cough) over and over..

You haven't been out in public much? Most of the mongloids out there won't sit in a chair and watch a good story. They need explosions, a good looking girl, and catchy one liners. It would blow their little pea sized minds if they were to actually use them.
 

BUTCH1

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You haven't been out in public much? Most of the mongloids out there won't sit in a chair and watch a good story. They need explosions, a good looking girl, and catchy one liners. It would blow their little pea sized minds if they were to actually use them.

I guess the youth of today is dumbed-down even worse than I thought, they would probably find "Shawshank Redemption" a boring crappy film...
 

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How about some great old-fashioned storytelling instead of a special-effects competition. Or not re-using the same crap (cough Superman, cough) over and over..

Exactly! Hollywood is using expensive CGI bullshit to sell a shitty story. Here's an idea, how about focusing more on the story than fucking around with CGI bullshit. One of my favorite movies was "The Boy In The Striped Pajamas." I'm sure the budget for that movie was pretty small, but the story was great. Loved the movie!

And Lucas, you're a fat shit. STFU, no one wants to hear any of your moronic opinions.
 
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You haven't been out in public much? Most of the mongloids out there won't sit in a chair and watch a good story. They need explosions, a good looking girl, and catchy one liners. It would blow their little pea sized minds if they were to actually use them.

Yes, the movie industry did it to themselves. The people who would have flocked to a movie with a great story even if it didn't have big special effects, nudity, cursing and violence have long since given up on going to the theater because they don't make movies like that.

The whole entertainment industry is so self-absorbed they are more motivated by what their peers will think instead of what will be successful.
 

JackBurton

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You haven't been out in public much? Most of the mongloids out there won't sit in a chair and watch a good story. They need explosions, a good looking girl, and catchy one liners. It would blow their little pea sized minds if they were to actually use them.

Good point.
 

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We don't go to the movies anymore, MAYBE once a year IF that.

I don't mind waiting for the movie for few months until it's up on Netflix. And even if it isn't and I never see it, that's fine too.
 

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We don't go to the movies anymore, MAYBE once a year IF that.

I don't mind waiting for the movie for few months until it's up on Netflix. And even if it isn't and I never see it, that's fine too.

Same here.

Movies just aren't like they used to be. I've been watching stuff on netflix from back in the day, which we thought were crap, now I think they're better than the new movies.
 

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The problem is the BIG budget movies. Studios place so many of the the company's resources into these that it feels it has to play it safe. What the studios are doing through this is akin to a gamble for every green lit big budget movie. It's a high risk high reward system. Dump 300+ mill into this movie and if it's the next big thing make the money back x3. It flops there goes 1/3 of a billion dollars that have to be reported to the stock holders next year.

It sucks that the big studios are under so much pressure to play it safe. We as the movie goers end up losing in the end. I'm sure in their script vaults they have genre defining classics just waiting to be made, but are not "safe" enough, don't have enough of a guaranteed audience base, to get the go ahead to be made.
 

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i've gone to the movies once in the past year, and a lot of it is due to me having a better sounding setup in my basement than how most movie theaters sound. and now i can basically buy a brand new blu-ray for the price of watching it in the theater, both 2d and 3d. i can watch it at home in a leather recliner, make my own drinks and food, don't have to deal with uncomfortable seats or people, and don't have to worry about any sound/video inconsistencies.

last movie we saw was iron man 3, and while it was a neat movie, the experience was mediocore. like 1/2 through the movie my wife looked at me and was like 'these chairs suck they are so uncomfortable' and was shifting around the whole movie. and then during the pre-movie stuff, i noticed a buzz on the center channel speaker when it was quiet. well it was like that the whole movie. granted, it wasn't quiet very much in iron man 3, but i definitely noticed it. also the bass sounded very weak.

so yea, i don't plan on seeing many movies in the theater, i can wait.
 
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Same here.

Movies just aren't like they used to be. I've been watching stuff on netflix from back in the day, which we thought were crap, now I think they're better than the new movies.

Agreed

We watch more movies from the 70s/80s then we do new movies.

That's the nice thing about netflix, they have all of the movies from my childhood. Heck I would prefer if they uploaded more movies from that era than new ones.

But that's just me.
 
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I'm honestly enjoying tv programming much more than movies these days. Mad Men, Breaking Bad, Boardwalk Empire,etc. Nothing at the movies is even close.
 

Vdubchaos

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i've gone to the movies once in the past year, and a lot of it is due to me having a better setup in my basement than most theaters have. .

No you don't and will never have one.

You have no idea how much your average movie theater set up costs. Just the projector alone is more expensive than your entire set up.

Other than that, most home theater set ups give you 90-95% of the experience with peace/comfort of your home.

Personally I like that 10x better as well.
 

purbeast0

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No you don't and will never have one.

You have no idea how much your average movie theater set up costs. Just the projector alone is more expensive than your entire set up.

Other than that, most home theater set ups give you 90-95% of the experience with peace/comfort of your home.

Personally I like that 10x better as well.

okay maybe the pieces of equipment are not "better" than the ones at movie theaters, but movies sound better in my setup than most theaters. sorry if that wasn't clear enough to you.
 

CraigRT

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Seeing a movie at the theater is an insane waste of money. I guess some people like the "experience" I could not care less. I always watch the stuff on Netflix or buy the Blu-Ray from the bargain bin for $4.99.

I bought Gran Torino for $5 last year on Blu-Ray. Awesome movie, and for only $5. LoL @ paying even more at the theater than people do now... Not going to happen for this guy.
 

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I agree that movie studios aren't as adventurous. I can kinda see that given the size of movie budgets these days but its going to bite them in the ass soon. The other thing they have going against them are the theaters themselves. I don't want to go see a movie where I have to worry about some douchebag on the phone, talking or some shit like that or pay $7.00 for a popcorn while I'm trying to watch metal things fight other metal things in orange and blue with EXPLOSIONS! underscored by the inception like 'brrrrrrrrraaaaaaaAAAAAHHHHHH!' soundtrack in the background
 

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I think the most expensive movie ever was Avatar at about 150 mil,where do you guys come up with half a beelion?
 

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I dare the movie studios to price the next blockbusters at $25. Go ahead, make my day, just so I can see their profits go up in smoke and watch them destroy their industry.
 

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I have two points

1. I feel like there was a contraction in hollywood in the late 80's or early 90's already with some companies going bankrupt when movies started getting expensive to make and they started releasing less movies per year. This probably coincided with people only seeing new releases versus movies like Big or ET which played for weeks and months. Now most movies have to make it to first place at the box office to be profitable. Back then movies could gain traction, i.e. Honey I Shrunk the Kids. I will see if I can find any "internet" facts on this.

2. "The pathway to get into theaters is really getting smaller and smaller," Lucas said. This is poppycock. Internet and digital cameras are making it easier for independent movies to be released. Now you could argue it is smaller but because of internet we are finding independent artists quicker and then they get put into the ever increasing funnel but i don't really buy that either.