Speeding ticket question

Krazy4Real

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My wife was pulled over for speeding this weekend. The officer says she was going 68 in a 50. She says there is no way she was driving this fast. She is not a fast driver at all. Every time she drives with me in the car, she is always either driving the speed limit or less than 5 over the speed limit.

Another thing that seemed strange was that she said that she saw him and that he followed her for 1/2 mile or so before turning on his lights. They were even stopped with him right behind her at a red light at one point.

That seems really odd and wacky. Has this happened to anyone else?
 

Newbian

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First off post pics of your wife so we can see if she was hot enough to had flirted her way out of the ticket. ;)

But it's going to be her word vs the cops and if the cop shows up I doubt she will win with no proof.

As for the following they may had been running the plates through the system.
 

Krazy4Real

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Can you share a pic from tapatalk? I have no idea how to do it.

Rude, I've considered the fact that she may have just not realized how fast she was going. She says there is no way she was driving that fast. She has no reason to lie. The only other ticket she has gotten was a speeding ticket about 7 years ago where she was going 50 in a 45 and that seemed right. This doesn't seem right at all.

Either way, I guess the best route is to go to court and try to get supervision. I'm worried they might not do it though since the ticket says she was going so much over the limit.
 

OCGuy

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Illinois? Prepared to be bent over.

And yes, she has a reason to lie. We all do that shit to SOs if we think they will react badly to something.
 

waggy

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Unless she has proof she is fucked. Its her word against the cops.

She can fight it and hope he does nto show up and that is doubtful. sadly there is little you can do besides pay the fine.
 

Krazy4Real

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We're not trying to get out of the ticket. She just doesn't agree with how fast the officer said she was going, and she doesn't want it to go on her record. I'm just not sure if that is possible with how fast the officer says she was going.

I was most curious by her being followed for awhile before being pulled over. It sounds like he was just running her plates? I don't get why he wouldn't just do that once he pulled her over.
 

waggy

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We're not trying to get out of the ticket. She just doesn't agree with how fast the officer said she was going, and she doesn't want it to go on her record. I'm just not sure if that is possible with how fast the officer says she was going.

I was most curious by her being followed for awhile before being pulled over. It sounds like he was just running her plates? I don't get why he wouldn't just do that once he pulled her over.

it could be he was running her plates. it could be he wanted to see if she broke more laws. it could be he was beating off. who the fuck knows? it does not matter in the least.

She can go into court and they MIGHT reduce the charge. Since seh was going 18 over (think the tickets 1-20 over are considered the same) i don't think it will matter.
 

Paul98

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Most likely the cop was lying, and she wasn't going that fast. With how much most of these cops lie I would be surprised if it was anything else.
 
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We're not trying to get out of the ticket. She just doesn't agree with how fast the officer said she was going, and she doesn't want it to go on her record. I'm just not sure if that is possible with how fast the officer says she was going.

I was most curious by her being followed for awhile before being pulled over. It sounds like he was just running her plates? I don't get why he wouldn't just do that once he pulled her over.

the 1/2 mile thing is not uncommon at all...like someone else said, they could have been running the plates. The only way to challenge the speed is to subpoena the records of the officer's gun and try to use them to show that it was not calibrated properly. Most of the time, the only way you win is if the litigation services department drops the ball and forgets to produce the records.
 

rudeguy

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Illinois? Prepared to be bent over.

And yes, she has a reason to lie. We all do that shit to SOs if we think they will react badly to something.







We're not trying to get out of the ticket. She just doesn't agree with how fast the officer said she was going, and she doesn't want it to go on her record. I'm just not sure if that is possible with how fast the officer says she was going.

I was most curious by her being followed for awhile before being pulled over. It sounds like he was just running her plates? I don't get why he wouldn't just do that once he pulled her over.

They want to know who they are dealing with before they pull you over. Where is jlee so he can tell you the process?

And I don't really think she is lying. Its easy to lose track of your speed for a second or he could have clocked a different car but thought it was your wife.

Traffic stuff like this stinks because it's her word vs his and his gun readout.
 

zerocool84

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We're not trying to get out of the ticket. She just doesn't agree with how fast the officer said she was going, and she doesn't want it to go on her record. I'm just not sure if that is possible with how fast the officer says she was going.

I was most curious by her being followed for awhile before being pulled over. It sounds like he was just running her plates? I don't get why he wouldn't just do that once he pulled her over.

You don't understand why a cop would want to run the plates BEFORE they pull someone over? Well they want to know what they are dealing with before they pull them over. Hell, for all the cop knows, the car could have been recently involved in a bank robbery. That's standard practice for any cop.
 

Tommy2000GT

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I've gotten a bogus speeding ticket when I argued with a cop about something else. But it was my word against the pig's so I knew I wouldn't win and just paid it.
 

Sinsear

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Shooting radar/lidar(laser) is like shooting fish in a barrel of fish without water. There's no need to lie and make up some arbitrary number.
 

Svnla

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Welcome to Speedville, USA. Cops can give you tickets and they do NOT need to show you any proof. Cop pulled me over (he turned his car around) and when I ask to see the radar gun or any proof of speeding, he said either I signed the ticket or went to jail.

The best thing you can do is plead no contest and ask for a traffic school so no point on your record (no higher insurance rate).
 

waitman

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I did see a case once where the defendant stated he was using his cruise control set at the speed limit and all the cop had was his word against that. The judge dismissed it. If I recall correctly it was only 10 over.
 

jlee

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They want to know who they are dealing with before they pull you over. Where is jlee so he can tell you the process?

And I don't really think she is lying. Its easy to lose track of your speed for a second or he could have clocked a different car but thought it was your wife.

Traffic stuff like this stinks because it's her word vs his and his gun readout.

You rang?
 

LTC8K6

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Welcome to Speedville, USA. Cops can give you tickets and they do NOT need to show you any proof. Cop pulled me over (he turned his car around) and when I ask to see the radar gun or any proof of speeding, he said either I signed the ticket or went to jail.

The best thing you can do is plead no contest and ask for a traffic school so no point on your record (no higher insurance rate).

Signing the ticket is not an admission of guilt. It's an acknowledgement that you received the ticket and that you will either pay it or appear in court.

Not signing the ticket means you won't even agree that you received the ticket, let alone appear in court later to deal with it, so they have take you to the judge right then.
 

LTC8K6

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Following you for a while could mean pacing you with his calibrated speedometer.
 

mizzou

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Another thing that seemed strange was that she said that she saw him and that he followed her for 1/2 mile or so before turning on his lights. They were even stopped with him right behind her at a red light at one point.

That seems really odd and wacky. Has this happened to anyone else?

that is normal, and if anything, what they are supposed to do.

Stopping a vehicle includes a bunch of things that need to be timed together.

#1 is radio chatter clear so they can tell dispatch they are about to pull a vehicle over
#2 the officer may be running the vehicles information. Wouldn't want to waltz up to a stolen vehicle without knowing in advance. Alot of departments aren't on 4g and have spotty 3g, so a simple record check can take minutes
#3 is there a reasonable location for the traffic offender to pull over.
#4 the officer may be observing any other unusual actions by the driver, like weaving, reaching for things, etc.

Distance + time CAN be unusual though, but it depends on the circumstances.



If you want some GENERAL information, go look at the area where she was said to be speeding. Then see what kind of instrument the officer used to capture her speed.

Is it a busy road at that time of day? Does she drive a typical / generic vehicle? Did the Officer use a Lidar (which is vehicle specific LASER device) or RADAR (Which captures a certain "area" which can be broad) Was this on a city street with an overlooking highway? Did the Officer remember to include which device he used?

These are things a traffic attorney will look at.
 
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Svnla

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Signing the ticket is not an admission of guilt. It's an acknowledgement that you received the ticket and that you will either pay it or appear in court.

Not signing the ticket means you won't even agree that you received the ticket, let alone appear in court later to deal with it, so they have take you to the judge right then.

I didn't say I would not sign the ticket. I asked him what was his proof because he said he pulled me over for speeding. He said he would not have to show me anything so either I sign the ticket or else.

That's my problem. Guilty until proven otherwise in traffic court. I did have to go to traffic court and then plead down to traffic school. A big waste of time and money for something that I did not do.
 

jlee

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I didn't say I would not sign the ticket. I asked him what was his proof because he said he pulled me over for speeding. He said he would not have to show me anything so either I sign the ticket or else.

That's my problem. Guilty until proven otherwise in traffic court. I did have to go to traffic court and then plead down to traffic school. A big waste of time and money for something that I did not do.

He doesn't have to show you anything, and playing roadside lawyer isn't going to do anybody any good. If you want to argue, argue in court - not on the side of the road.
 

Svnla

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He doesn't have to show you anything, and playing roadside lawyer isn't going to do anybody any good. If you want to argue, argue in court - not on the side of the road.

Read my last post again. "Guilty until proven otherwise" = my biggest beef. So I go to court, my words (I did not speed) vs. his words (oh yes he did) and the judge would more than likely be on his side. And as if cops never lied before, right? <not saying all cops are>.

Just saying. It was more than a few years ago. I was just telling the OP my own experience with traffic cop. What done is done.
 
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