Speed.net -- Top countries by download speed

zoiks

Lifer
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Even the Russian Federation is higher than us. Tsk tsk.

http://www.speedtest.net/global.php

Top Countries by Download Speed

* 1.19.52 Mb/s Korea, Republic of
* 2.16.27 Mb/s Japan
* 3.14.39 Mb/s Aland Islands
* 4.12.53 Mb/s Sweden
* 5.12.53 Mb/s Lithuania
* 6.11.71 Mb/s Latvia
* 7.11.58 Mb/s Romania
* 8.10.87 Mb/s Bulgaria
* 9.9.89 Mb/s Netherlands
* 10.8.69 Mb/s Moldova, Republic of
* 11.8.15 Mb/s Slovakia
* 12.8.02 Mb/s Germany
* 13.7.90 Mb/s Russian Federation
* 14.7.72 Mb/s Switzerland
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
I'm sure we're working on it.

Yeah, one bandwidth fee at a time.

Increasing speed is counter productive for your guys internet infrastructure, the companies want to charge you out the nose for what little bandwidth you do use so they don't have to upgrade.
 

Lean L

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meh, I get the korean speeds at home. Uni blows all those out the water
 

RESmonkey

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Originally posted by: albatross
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
I'm sure we're working on it.

working.....working....working....working....working....

Yes. There was a thread about this before. Some of the people who work in this industry posted in it, and from what I understood, they're working on it.

If you think about it, the countries with the most internet users/early adopters shouldn't be on that list. You do not see the USA, China, nor India.

There has to be demand for it. I'm no economics guy, but I'm guessing a well amount of these countries are content with their ancient AOL or yesterday's Cable/DSL connections.

We also have the land problem...(we're a big country).
 

Auryg

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Yes. There was a thread about this before. Some of the people who work in this industry posted in it, and from what I understood, they're working on it.

If you think about it, the countries with the most internet users/early adopters shouldn't be on that list. You do not see the USA, China, nor India.

There has to be demand for it. I'm no economics guy, but I'm guessing a well amount of these countries are content with their ancient AOL or yesterday's Cable/DSL connections.

We also have the land problem...(we're a big country).

Yeah, and then others pointed out that there's no competition in our country from providers of the same type of service (DSL/Cable), whereas in other countries it's not the same. That and our large cities/coastlines should be competitive with countries with high population densities by themselves, but they aren't even close.

That said..paging spidey..
 

Regs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: albatross
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
I'm sure we're working on it.

working.....working....working....working....working....

Yes. There was a thread about this before. Some of the people who work in this industry posted in it, and from what I understood, they're working on it.

If you think about it, the countries with the most internet users/early adopters shouldn't be on that list. You do not see the USA, China, nor India.

There has to be demand for it. I'm no economics guy, but I'm guessing a well amount of these countries are content with their ancient AOL or yesterday's Cable/DSL connections.

We also have the land problem...(we're a big country).

We allow communications co's to monopolize regions and then capitalism fails.
 

guyver01

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Where exactly are they downloading from?

it's nice to have 100 megs down in japan, but if you're downloading from a website in the US and due to trans-oceanic cabling, can only get 200kbps, the 100meg dont mean shit.

 

tcsenter

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Almost all of these countries are the size of a postage stamp relative to the USA. Or put another way, some of them are no bigger than many US States or even major US cities.

In many of these foreign countries, 90% of the population is stacked-up inside each other's ass. Rural populations are more likely to have no internet service at all to drag down the averages. Its all about population density.
 

Colt45

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Almost all of these countries are the size of a postage stamp relative to the USA. Or put another way, some of them are no bigger than many US States or even major US cities.

In many of these foreign countries, 90% of the population is stacked-up inside each other's ass. Rural populations are more likely to have no internet service at all to drag down the averages. Its all about population density.

Sure, but even if you dump middle america, they still beat out socal, NYC, etc. why?

edit: russian federation is listed as being ahead of the US as well. You know, the largest country on earth, with less pop. than the US.
 

Jeff7

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And sadly, a number of my friends back home still use dial-up.

But wait, it gets worse. Most of them use AOL.



Speaking of slow, the connection I'm getting seems to be slowing inexplicably. I'm using Roadrunner's 7Mbps service through TimeWarnerCable, but some sites like Youtube, Break.com, and Dailyshow.com seem to have trouble streaming their videos in realtime. Of course, Dailyshow.com just implemented a new player which does kind of suck. The old one worked perfectly well. If it ain't broke, fix it until it is, I guess.


 

tcsenter

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Originally posted by: Colt45
Sure, but even if you dump middle america, they still beat out socal, NYC, etc. why?
No, they don't. Look at the average for the entire continent of Europe = 6.0Mbps. North America is #2 @ 5.87Mbps. Asia is #4 @ 4.06Mbps. What happened? Something pulled the average down for all this great internet service in Europe and Asia to being not meaningfully different than the USA (and Canada).

Compare the top results in Japan with the state of New York:

Gunma Prefecture, Japan = 25Mbps

An ISP in New York City offers 50Mbps service (WBS Connect), but the average for the State of New York is only 8Mbps.

Besides, I'm not convinced these numbers can be trusted not to include governments and universities. Greenvale is listed as the "top city" in New York @ 20Mbps, but when you drill down to Greenvale, the only ISP listed for Greenvale is Verizon with an average of 2.68Mbps. Where did they get 20Mbps?

Uncheck "Hide schools and corporations" - presto! An ISP named "Long Island" with an average of 29.27Mbps, which is most likely government/education. So apparently, almost every single person included in the statistics for Greenvale is connecting through a government/university service that is not offered to the public.

Can you tell me for certain the average given for some City or Region doesn't include some 100Mbps service that is only available to 25,000 students attending some university or 5,000 public employees working for some government unit, which is greatly skewing an average that might otherwise be 2Mbps or 5Mbps (as is obviously the case for the Greenvale numbers)?

edit: russian federation is listed as being ahead of the US as well. You know, the largest country on earth, with less pop. than the US.
Again, you will find massive numbers of people in Russia who either don't have access to any internet service or simply cannot afford it.

When you roll-out a broadband service that can only be afforded or accessed by the wealthiest 20% of your population, while everyone else is lucky just to have phone service, it makes your numbers look really great compared to other countries where 95% of the population has internet access.
 

13Gigatons

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Originally posted by: guyver01
Where exactly are they downloading from?

it's nice to have 100 megs down in japan, but if you're downloading from a website in the US and due to trans-oceanic cabling, can only get 200kbps, the 100meg dont mean shit.

It's stupid comments like this, that help the industry from actually deploying 100mbps in the US. Having 100mbps isn't always about downloading one file from one site. It is also about being able to do several things at once without topping your line out.
 

Snapster

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Originally posted by: tcsenter

Can you tell me for certain the average given for some City or Region doesn't include some 100Mbps service that is only available to 25,000 students attending some university or 5,000 public employees working for some government unit, which is greatly skewing an average that might otherwise be 2Mbps or 5Mbps (as is obviously the case for the Greenvale numbers)?

Pretty much why you cannot use that website as an accurate picture of broadband speed as it's only a sample of the population (ie those who bother testing there). Even OECD lists Japan's average speed as 90.6Mbps with 48% fibre coverage and even offer 1Gbps packages. US has more fibre hubs in number than Japan, but not the speeds yet so they are doing something, just not the demanded ISP to door fibre connection that everyone wants.
 

Toonces

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Originally posted by: guyver01
Where exactly are they downloading from?

it's nice to have 100 megs down in japan, but if you're downloading from a website in the US and due to trans-oceanic cabling, can only get 200kbps, the 100meg dont mean shit.

Don't worry, it's plenty fast enough... ;)
Tokyo
LA
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey


We also have the land problem...(we're a big country).

we are behind a much larger third world country with far fewer people (russia) there is no excuse.
 

miketheidiot

Lifer
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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Almost all of these countries are the size of a postage stamp relative to the USA. Or put another way, some of them are no bigger than many US States or even major US cities.

In many of these foreign countries, 90% of the population is stacked-up inside each other's ass. Rural populations are more likely to have no internet service at all to drag down the averages. Its all about population density.

the united states is actually (one of) the most urbanized countries in the world. even in 'rural' states, almost noone lives in rural areas.
 

sjwaste

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Hey, I have 20mbit coming in on fiber (Fios). Screw the averages, I'm pretty happy!
 

AnonymouseUser

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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Hey, I have 20mbit coming in on fiber (Fios). Screw the averages, I'm pretty happy!

You are getting 1/5th of the download speed of the fastest connections in Japan or Korea, and you're happy? Your upload speed is probably 1/10th what they have as well.

FWIW, I live in Dallas,TX and have a few options (very few, surprisingly) when it comes to residential service. As it is, I only get 6.0Mb/0.5Mb service at this time, though I could get as fast as 10MB.

For business internet the options are even slimmer, and the best DSL we can get is 384kbps/384kbps and we are only 10 minutes from downtown. Of course we can always get wireless 2.0MB/2.0MB service for ~$300/month, but we don't need those speeds that bad (we would be content with 768/768 service).

Why in the hell is it so hard to find decent internet options in a metropolitan area like Dallas (9th largest US city by population)? Answer: Because this is America... :frown:
 

xanis

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Did anyone else notice that the Aland Island, a small island province of Finland, totally rapes us in speed? How is that right? :p
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: AnonymouseUser
Originally posted by: sjwaste
Hey, I have 20mbit coming in on fiber (Fios). Screw the averages, I'm pretty happy!

You are getting 1/5th of the download speed of the fastest connections in Japan or Korea, and you're happy? Your upload speed is probably 1/10th what they have as well.

FWIW, I live in Dallas,TX and have a few options (very few, surprisingly) when it comes to residential service. As it is, I only get 6.0Mb/0.5Mb service at this time, though I could get as fast as 10MB.

For business internet the options are even slimmer, and the best DSL we can get is 384kbps/384kbps and we are only 10 minutes from downtown. Of course we can always get wireless 2.0MB/2.0MB service for ~$300/month, but we don't need those speeds that bad (we would be content with 768/768 service).

Why in the hell is it so hard to find decent internet options in a metropolitan area like Dallas (9th largest US city by population)? Answer: Because this is America... :frown:

Great, keep perpetuating the dumb southerner stereotype.
 

AnonymouseUser

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Originally posted by: Xanis
Did anyone else notice that the Aland Island, a small island province of Finland, totally rapes us in speed? How is that right? :p

They must not have Time Warner or Comcast for ISPs.