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uzzi38

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All die sizes are within 5mm^2. The poster here has been right on some things in the past afaik, and to his credit was the first to saying 505mm^2 for Navi21, which other people have backed up. Even still though, take the following with a pich of salt.

Navi21 - 505mm^2

Navi22 - 340mm^2

Navi23 - 240mm^2

Source is the following post: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shopping/M.1588075782.A.C1E.html
 
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Awful decision from AMD. They will deservedly eternally keep their reputation for having garbage software, it seems (and lose a ton of goodwill from all the users of one of their most significant and popular recent series of GPUs).
 
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This is a pathetic decision from AMD. RDNA2 is still widely used and even brought second hand a lot these days.

This is one of the areas where Nvidia is better on Windows support. I hope AMD reconsiders cause this isn’t it.
 
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GodisanAtheist said:
Is AMD obligated to put that press release out there? Not a whole lot of optimization to do on a 5 year old arch I agree (even as the owner of one) but no one is going to question driver notes only including fixes for RDNA 3 & 4 going forward while quietly excluding RDNA1 & 2.

Feels like a case of being too transparent for their own good. All this does is reinforce the "AMD cards are cheap for a reason" narrative.

Nvidia still has the 9xx series as supported cards, even through they don't get any actual bug fixes etc and don't generate a fraction of the stink even through in practical terms there is little difference in terms of how much "support" legacy cards are getting.
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Uh no don’t defend AMD.

Yes you generally have to notify customers if the software support for your hardware is ending soon.




This what Nvidia said in their press release for one of their recent driver updates:

Support Plan For Maxwell, Pascal & Volta Architecture GPUs, and Windows 10​

After a final Game Ready Driver release in October 2025, GeForce GPUs based on Maxwell, Pascal, and Volta architectures will transition to receiving quarterly security updates for the next three years (through October 2028). Our support lifetime for these GPUs reaches up to 11 years, well beyond industry norms.
Also, we’re extending Windows 10 Game Ready Driver support for all GeForce RTX GPUs to October 2026, a year beyond the operating system’s end-of-life, to ensure users continue to receive the latest day-0 optimizations for new games and apps.
 
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So funny. They were generally considered to have decent RDNA2 support up until now. Maybe the first baby step toward repairing their driver reputation. Then they end it with one driver release and a press release saying yep, it's maintenance now.

Really, can't imagine it needs many optimization patches given nearly everything is tested on consoles. How much could it cost?
 
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They are still actively shipping 2 generations of desktop processors with RDNA 2 based iGPU sections, the 7000 and 9000 series, the latest products of which were released within the last few months. The 6800/6900 series GPUs still deliver plenty of performance and VRAM for modern games.

I can't say that I thrilled by this at all. Granted, they are still shipping new products with VEGA iGPUs to this day and did this same thing to those drivers years ago.

If you are selling a product as "new" today, you should provide useful support for it for at least three years.
 
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LightningZ71 said:
They are still actively shipping 2 generations of desktop processors with RDNA 2 based iGPU sections, the 7000 and 9000 series, the latest products of which were released within the last few months. The 6800/6900 series GPUs still deliver plenty of performance and VRAM for modern games.

I can't say that I thrilled by this at all. Granted, they are still shipping new products with VEGA iGPUs to this day and did this same thing to those drivers years ago.

If you are selling a product as "new" today, you should provide useful support for it for at least three years.
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It’s not even that. These RDNA2 GPUs will not receive any new Vulkan extensions, so if a game requires that new extensions. Good luck running it in windows
 
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A bit rough for the 6950XT owners. It was only released in May 2022.

Just a lame decision by AMD that needs to be highlighted by reviewers of future AMD sku's.
 
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RnR_au said:
A bit rough for the 6950XT owners. It was only released in May 2022.

Just a lame decision by AMD that needs to be highlighted by reviewers of future AMD sku's.
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If they had enough sense then you'd have expected them to extend RDNA 2 game optimization support until RDNA 5 release in H1/H2 2027
 
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I felt a bit screwed with my 3 previous Radeons with exactly this, gets moved out of main support and after that game breaking bugs show up, performance drops massively in new titles... but, even then, the cards were older and slower than RDNA2 is now, so, pretty crazy move,
and I'm glad I got the Nvidia option and not the rx 6600 when I was buying a card last year, might be a bit slower in raster but is still supported,

right now, i think Radeons are only competitive if your focus is linux, for windows it feels very unsafe to put your money on a Radeon for it to get dropped like this;

for RDNA1, sure maybe it's ok, still bad compared to Nvidia and Turing support, but the GPU itself lacks major features by this point;

still this decision is super dumb in terms of brand perception, how much money are they saving by not keeping RDNA2 mainline support for another year or 2?
also let's not forget they are still selling a lot of RDNA2 IGPs, some released months ago....
oh and in many markets RDNA2 cards are still available new all over, specially things like the 6600.
 
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