Speculation: i9-9900K is Intel's last hurrah in gaming

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Will Intel lose it's gaming CPU lead in 2019?


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B-Riz

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The i9 9900K "beater" would be a 12c / 24t CPU ~$500 - $600, anything beyond that I think would be a different tier of product (Threadripper).
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inf64

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No you dont, there is no i9 9900k beater on sight, the only one who gonna beat it is perhaps a new Intel cpu ;)
Are you sure you didn't mean heater instead of beater? It would make more sense :D
 

TheELF

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Being beaten in cinebench by a CPU with 50% more cores is pretty irrelevant for a gaming CPU which is the topic of this here post.
And yeah the normal one and the s are going to be very very close since most games are still bottlenecked by graphics.
 

TheGiant

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Being beaten in cinebench by a CPU with 50% more cores is pretty irrelevant for a gaming CPU which is the topic of this here post.
And yeah the normal one and the s are going to be very very close since most games are still bottlenecked by graphics.
that is true
today is AMD day, this is more AMD forums, don't feel bad about it !
 

Paul98

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I am quite interested to see how the boost works and memory speeds, I can't wait to see benchmarks.
 

inf64

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I am quite interested to see how the boost works and memory speeds, I can't wait to see benchmarks.
I'm waiting for someone to tweak the DDR4 speeds on a 3800X that is OCed to its sweetspot frequency and compare it to well optimized/OCed 9900K system. That would be a real showdown.
 

Ottonomous

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No you dont, there is no i9 9900k beater on sight, the only one who gonna beat it is perhaps a new Intel cpu ;)
Being beaten in cinebench by a CPU with 50% more cores is pretty irrelevant for a gaming CPU which is the topic of this here post.
And yeah the normal one and the s are going to be very very close since most games are still bottlenecked by graphics.
So how much more do you reckon you can get out of the beloved 9900K(S) for gaming?

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TheELF

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So how much more do you reckon you can get out of the beloved 9900K(S) for gaming?
Depends on how much of a bottleneck the 2080ti is right now.
Power consumption is what you showed and will not change anymore.
 

JoeRambo

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So how much more do you reckon you can get out of the beloved 9900K(S) for gaming?
How about we wait for power numbers from AMD as well. Now that they have full 256bit wide AVX units, they will also chew seriuos power in Prime95 with AVX and even more so in FMA.
In gaming 9900K is just fine, easily doing 5Ghz in sub 100 watts in all games.

There is no doubt that AMD has matched Intel Skylake core performance in tests like Cinebench that may or may not favor. But gaming historically dependend on clocks and memory hierachy. Let's wait for proper leaks and tests before we jump to conclusions.
 

Ottonomous

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Depends on how much of a bottleneck the 2080ti is right now.
Power consumption is what you showed and will not change anymore.
I've always wanted to see an AMD chip running 'proper' torture loops. With AVX2 implemented in Zen2, my curiosity is about to be satisfied.
How about we wait for power numbers from AMD as well. Now that they have full 256bit wide AVX units, they will also chew seriuos power in Prime95 with AVX and even more so in FMA.
In gaming 9900K is just fine, easily doing 5Ghz in sub 100 watts in all games.

There is no doubt that AMD has matched Intel Skylake core performance in tests like Cinebench that may or may not favor. But gaming historically dependend on clocks and memory hierachy. Let's wait for proper leaks and tests before we jump to conclusions.
I agree, I want to see what both manage to achieve with 360mm rad/DH-15 cooling
 
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Being beaten in cinebench by a CPU with 50% more cores is pretty irrelevant for a gaming CPU which is the topic of this here post.
And yeah the normal one and the s are going to be very very close since most games are still bottlenecked by graphics.
Who said anything about Cinebench?
 

inf64

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Ok guys calm down, we are close to E3 event, 2 more weeks and we'll know exact numbers. I heard the chips are really fast and IPC+ XFR combo is looking really good. No need to be aggressive over this, we'll know very soon how fast and in what workloads.

PS Intel's last minute announcement of specially binned 9900K(S) is a tell tale sign of what they think about (mainstream!) Zen2 parts.
 

TheELF

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PS Intel's last minute announcement of specially binned 9900K(S) is a tell tale sign of what they think about (mainstream!) Zen2 parts.
Yes, yes it is.
They think a 5Ghz all core 9900k is going to provide a good challenge to all zen 2 CPUs.
Especially if the new 300w limit is to get the 12 core part close to 4Ghz all core.
 

Markfw

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Yes, yes it is.
They think a 5Ghz all core 9900k is going to provide a good challenge to all zen 2 CPUs.
Especially if the new 300w limit is to get the 12 core part close to 4Ghz all core.
The 3900x does 3.8 ghz@105 watts. Thats already close to 4 ghz. What makes you think it will take 300 to get to 4 ghx ? I can get my 16 core 1st gen 1950x to 4 ghz on less than 300 watts.

This is just another one of your troll posts.
 

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