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LOL, all you need now is to change the thread title to "MSFT Death Watch". This is way more absurd than the Tesla and AAPL ones.
 
Leros said:
Android is Linux.

I'd say Linux is doing pretty well. Besides being in the most popular mobile OS, it's in cars, TVs, etc.
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sure it is.

I don't see it being in business anytime soon though. in time i do think it will creep in and start to get more and more of the pie.
 
The day MS dies, Bill Gates will piss on Steve Jobs grave; raising him from the dead to force an iPhone in the mouths of the ursurpers.

By the next dawn, all other OSes will be forgotten.
 
brianmanahan said:
every place i have ever worked at uses them for most of their servers
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exactly.

*nix variations are everywhere. You being a mainframer know that(iirc), since Z's will run Linux partitions.

AIX is still alive and kickin', and Linux on POWER systems is still around.

Then there's Linux for x86, both native or running in VM's for high availability setup's

Then there's Linux for distributed computing for enterprises...

Let's not leave out all the SAN environment gear. Switches and storage boxes that run a *nix variation..

*nix runs everywhere, behind the scenes, providing day to day services and end users are none the wiser.

MSFT still isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
 
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Leros said:
Android is Linux.

I'd say Linux is doing pretty well. Besides being in the most popular mobile OS, it's in cars, TVs, etc.
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I didn't mean it as a dig at linux 🙂. Yes, Android is linux. But it is not the linux many linux users were thinking of when they once dreamed (and still do dream if G+ posts are any guide) of knocking Windows off the consumer desktop.

But overall, sure, linux wins however you look at it.
 
ch33zw1z said:
exactly.

*nix variations are everywhere. You being a mainframer know that(iirc), since Z's will run Linux partitions.

AIX is still alive and kickin', and Linux on POWER systems is still around.

Then there's Linux for x86, both native or running in VM's for high availability setup's

Then there's Linux for distributed computing for enterprises...

Let's not leave out all the SAN environment gear. Switches and storage boxes that run a *nix variation..

*nix runs everywhere, behind the scenes, providing day to day services and end users are none the wiser.

MSFT still isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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good luck getting same day support.
 
alkemyst said:
good luck getting same day support.
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On IBM AIX servers? Ha! For their big customers, they will keep a technician on site JUST IN CASE any hardware or software problems come up in your data center. Most replacement parts will arrive from their depot within 2 hours, with a guarantee that they will be there within 4.

You really can't beat that level of service. It costs a fortune, but Microsoft doesn't even come close to that response level even with their best support plans.

Oh, and the IBM techs will bring donuts and apples for their UNIX admins for breakfast when they arrive. Nice touch 🙂
 
Markbnj said:
I didn't mean it as a dig at linux 🙂. Yes, Android is linux. But it is not the linux many linux users were thinking of when they once dreamed (and still do dream if G+ posts are any guide) of knocking Windows off the consumer desktop.

But overall, sure, linux wins however you look at it.
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I'm still not giving up on the Linux desktop. The year of desktop Linux is still a long ways away, but the trajectory is still going in the right direction. Linux got easy enough that I use it on every single one of my computers. I'm a tech geek, but I also like computers that just work.

Considering that desktops and laptops seem to be going away, Linux's position as a mobile and embedded OS actually puts in the right place.
 
i honestly was going to put reduction (rather than death) in the last sentence, but i decided against it. i think that they'll downsize significantly though... a complete death was just wishful thinking on my part.

windows 8.1 sucks because it has severe input lag and it's going to promote DX11 which sucks like every version of DX has. i will definitely be going to linux once the support for 7 x64 stops... there will be somewhat of a learning curve, but i dont think it will be as expensive.

microsoft wants control over everything and wants everything to be all in one... they dont realize that it is not possible.
 
I think it's going to be while. Many office PCs/laptops still use MS OS. Some people have gone their entire lives only using MS office as their primary office tool. It might be fairly expensive to reteach all those people different programs, etc so many companies might not buy into getting rid of MS products. At home, and for mobile use is a totally different story though.
 
Markbnj said:
I didn't mean it as a dig at linux 🙂. Yes, Android is linux. But it is not the linux many linux users were thinking of when they once dreamed (and still do dream if G+ posts are any guide) of knocking Windows off the consumer desktop.

But overall, sure, linux wins however you look at it.
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If GNU/Linux ever wins on the desktop, I think it'll be a hollow victory. It'll win because people don't give a shit, not for any objective benefit(though there are many). MS is getting less relevant to consumers. There's alternatives to just about all consumer software, and people are using them. The operating system will be irrelevant, but maybe that's the way it should be.
 
lxskllr said:
If GNU/Linux ever wins on the desktop, I think it'll be a hollow victory. It'll win because people don't give a shit, not for any objective benefit(though there are many). MS is getting less relevant to consumers. There's alternatives to just about all consumer software, and people are using them. The operating system will be irrelevant, but maybe that's the way it should be.
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I'm really looking forward to SteamOS, as mainstream gaming support has always been a major roadblock to consumer Linux adoption. Once that technology starts showing up in other Linux distributions like Ubuntu, Mint, and Fedora, it should eliminate a major stumbling block for the gaming community.

Mac OS X and Android have already shown us that it's possible to make a consumer friendly version of UNIX. Now we just need the mainstream software support to make it a reality.
 
Their system of always giving a certain fixed number of good reviews to some employees and a certain number of bad reviews to others ensures things are only going to go downhill from here. Heaven help the people on a dream team of all brilliant super star innovators at Microsoft.
 
I wish they would fail in the console market. I credit them with fucking up the console game industry and twisting it into a NFL UFC COD dudebro sausage fest with the original Xbox.
 
They'll never fail because business execs swear by MS products, the same way hipsters swear by Apple products. Both of the companies can turn to complete garbage but they have their loyal customer base that will always cling on.

MS also had a grip on the consumer market because as crappy as an OS may be, once they stop supporting the last one, and games and stuff stop working in it, people have no choice but to "upgrade". Not to mention that PCs come with the newest OS and often you don't have the option to pick another. The consumer buyers are pretty small compared to business though. Think, exchange server, sharepoint and all that stuff. It's not any better than open source alternatives yet business execs swear by it.
 
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