Speaking of Karl Marx....

[chess9]

Originally posted by: squirrel dog
If marx was such hot shit,why aren't we all speaking in Russian now?

Well, Marx was hot shit. He was a seminal intellectual and creative thinker.

Some might argue his ideas were perverted by Engles, then Stalin and subsequent Communist regimes. Have his ideas had a fair play? I don't know, but I am not attracted to Communism. Actually, I fear what the rabble will do while they babble about the bubble being busted....

Let's stick with Capitalism, but make sure it's tightly regulated where it needs to be regulated.

-Robert

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Yeah, this is fake. I've read das kapital too years ago and this just doesn't sound like something marx with his odd 19th century writing style (translated from german) would say.

Plus, look at this line: "to buy more and more of expensive goods, houses and technology". Nobody would talk about buying "technology" back in the 19th century. Might as well be saying "buy ipods" because that's how fake it sounds.

Actually, this notion of Marx not using the word 'technology' has been debunked by wiki.

However, after reading through some of Marx again, I suspect this quote is a modernized transubstantiation of sorts of Marx's views. It reflects his views, but PROBABLY isn't a quote by him. Having said that, no one has come forward to definitely say this quote is fake. There are only some people questioning the authenticity of it. Some suggest, as I say above, that the quote is a distillation of his thinking.

The authenticity of the quote is really a side issue to me, at any rate. But, have your fun....

-Robert

LOL. Nobody has refuted it? I see the same posts over and over on the internet, NOBODY can find this in Das Kapital, NOBODY. What do you need to refute it, a letter from God or Marx himself? Why don't you take a few days of fact checking yourself and read through Das Kapital yourself. I guess the big question is, even if you don't find it (and you won't) will you believe yourself?

A "distillation" is stupid. First, the entire premise of the quote is to say that he has some type of far-reaching vision to cover this situation. Sorry, but a "distillation" of views is an interpretations and interpretations are nothing more than taking what IS written and reading between the lines to fit what you want it to be. There is no fact there, only interpretation. That interpretation obviously wanted to show how "evil" the bailouts are and show that we are heading towards communism. That is interpretation with an agenda, a populist one that chest-beating Conservatives would love to have chanted over and over.

You were played for a fool and you only perpetuated a lie and fell for somebody's false agenda. Admit it and move on.

LOL. Are we still smarting over the criticism you've received about the bailouts? Get over it!

I don't know if I was snookered or not, but it is looking like the quote is probably not Marx's, which I said before you posted your juvenile rant.

The view on McArdle's blog is that the quote is a distillation of his views.



Have a nice day!

-Robert

Actually if anything the quote is a distillate of von Misses views probably crafted by some Ron Paul supporter. Marx's ideas had nothing to do with debt and credit...

Even my mom said that was horseshit and she has a degree in Marxism (one of the joys of growing up in a communist country...)

Halik, please! A quote from your mother? LOL. If you are still living at home, you can't post on AT! You didn't read the rules....

-Robert

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Yeah, this is fake. I've read das kapital too years ago and this just doesn't sound like something marx with his odd 19th century writing style (translated from german) would say.

Plus, look at this line: "to buy more and more of expensive goods, houses and technology". Nobody would talk about buying "technology" back in the 19th century. Might as well be saying "buy ipods" because that's how fake it sounds.

Actually, this notion of Marx not using the word 'technology' has been debunked by wiki.

However, after reading through some of Marx again, I suspect this quote is a modernized transubstantiation of sorts of Marx's views. It reflects his views, but PROBABLY isn't a quote by him. Having said that, no one has come forward to definitely say this quote is fake. There are only some people questioning the authenticity of it. Some suggest, as I say above, that the quote is a distillation of his thinking.

The authenticity of the quote is really a side issue to me, at any rate. But, have your fun....

-Robert

LOL. Nobody has refuted it? I see the same posts over and over on the internet, NOBODY can find this in Das Kapital, NOBODY. What do you need to refute it, a letter from God or Marx himself? Why don't you take a few days of fact checking yourself and read through Das Kapital yourself. I guess the big question is, even if you don't find it (and you won't) will you believe yourself?

A "distillation" is stupid. First, the entire premise of the quote is to say that he has some type of far-reaching vision to cover this situation. Sorry, but a "distillation" of views is an interpretations and interpretations are nothing more than taking what IS written and reading between the lines to fit what you want it to be. There is no fact there, only interpretation. That interpretation obviously wanted to show how "evil" the bailouts are and show that we are heading towards communism. That is interpretation with an agenda, a populist one that chest-beating Conservatives would love to have chanted over and over.

You were played for a fool and you only perpetuated a lie and fell for somebody's false agenda. Admit it and move on.

LOL. Are we still smarting over the criticism you've received about the bailouts? Get over it!

I don't know if I was snookered or not, but it is looking like the quote is probably not Marx's, which I said before you posted your juvenile rant.

The view on McArdle's blog is that the quote is a distillation of his views.



Have a nice day!

-Robert

Actually if anything the quote is a distillate of von Misses views probably crafted by some Ron Paul supporter. Marx's ideas had nothing to do with debt and credit...

Even my mom said that was horseshit and she has a degree in Marxism (one of the joys of growing up in a communist country...)

Halik, please! A quote from your mother? LOL. If you are still living at home, you can't post on AT! You didn't read the rules....

-Robert

They made this system while back where you can send people text messages with computers. They call it pmail or zmail or something like that...

And yeah, my mom has a master's in economics (much like myself) with a marxism concentration...it was requirement back then Text

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: squirrel dog
If marx was such hot shit,why aren't we all speaking in Russian now?

Because of things like natural resources, geopolitical power, the Germans who could help build nukes coming to America, and the USSR not implementing Marxism, for a few?

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: chess9

Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Yeah, this is fake. I've read das kapital too years ago and this just doesn't sound like something marx with his odd 19th century writing style (translated from german) would say.

Plus, look at this line: "to buy more and more of expensive goods, houses and technology". Nobody would talk about buying "technology" back in the 19th century. Might as well be saying "buy ipods" because that's how fake it sounds.

Actually, this notion of Marx not using the word 'technology' has been debunked by wiki.

However, after reading through some of Marx again, I suspect this quote is a modernized transubstantiation of sorts of Marx's views. It reflects his views, but PROBABLY isn't a quote by him. Having said that, no one has come forward to definitely say this quote is fake. There are only some people questioning the authenticity of it. Some suggest, as I say above, that the quote is a distillation of his thinking.

The authenticity of the quote is really a side issue to me, at any rate. But, have your fun....

-Robert

LOL. Nobody has refuted it? I see the same posts over and over on the internet, NOBODY can find this in Das Kapital, NOBODY. What do you need to refute it, a letter from God or Marx himself? Why don't you take a few days of fact checking yourself and read through Das Kapital yourself. I guess the big question is, even if you don't find it (and you won't) will you believe yourself?

A "distillation" is stupid. First, the entire premise of the quote is to say that he has some type of far-reaching vision to cover this situation. Sorry, but a "distillation" of views is an interpretations and interpretations are nothing more than taking what IS written and reading between the lines to fit what you want it to be. There is no fact there, only interpretation. That interpretation obviously wanted to show how "evil" the bailouts are and show that we are heading towards communism. That is interpretation with an agenda, a populist one that chest-beating Conservatives would love to have chanted over and over.

You were played for a fool and you only perpetuated a lie and fell for somebody's false agenda. Admit it and move on.

LOL. Are we still smarting over the criticism you've received about the bailouts? Get over it!

I don't know if I was snookered or not, but it is looking like the quote is probably not Marx's, which I said before you posted your juvenile rant.

The view on McArdle's blog is that the quote is a distillation of his views.



Have a nice day!

-Robert

Yeah, "smarting". Between you and Skoorb it's actually pretty funny around here, better since Dave "left".

It was hardly a rant, it was more like "you were stupid and didn't check your facts, deal"