Spam filled apps fighting back, deleting Anti-Spam programs on installation

Swanny

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That's pretty sad. They will learn when they stop selling any more of their spam.
 

Hossenfeffer

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An interesting tactic, and a poor choice on their part. They want extra money from bundling crapware with theirs and they have been able to promise the potential bundle-ees that they have a provision that deletes third-party ad-ware removing bits.
 

MadRat

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If the anti-anti-spam hits my PC then I will promptly register a complaint with the FBI for unauthorized hacking.
 

no0b

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<< If the anti-anti-spam hits my PC then I will promptly register a complaint with the FBI for unauthorized hacking. >>


It wouldn't surprise me if you could since the "Hacking" Laws are so flexable.
 

DataFly

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Be sure to read the EULA of the software that deletes the antispam, since there's probably some clause in there that equates you clicking on "I Agree" with "Go ahead, delete all of that antispam!":disgust:
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Hey all, click on the link to radlight. You are directed to the Slovakia web site!!! Someone must have hacked the site.LOLOL
 
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<< Be sure to read the EULA of the software that deletes the antispam, since there's probably some clause in there that equates you clicking on "I Agree" with "Go ahead, delete all of that antispam!":disgust: >>

From the article:

<< According to the document, "You are not allowed to use any third party program (e.g., Ad-aware) to uninstall application bundled with RadLight. Such programs will be removed." >>




<< Hey all, click on the link to radlight. You are directed to the Slovakia web site!!! Someone must have hacked the site.LOLOL >>

Again from the article:

<< Representatives of RadLight, which is based in the Slovak Republic, were not immediately available for comment. >>

Its a Slovakian company. The redirect is likely on purpose.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Damn, shouda read better. Well it IS funny. Spaming for Slovakia!

I want to keep calling it Slovenia
 

StageLeft

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<< OH MY GOD...look at this IDIOT trying to justify the use of spyware(aka HELPWARE) on his radlight website!!!

holy freakin crap, the nerve of some people...
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That guy should take his thumb out of his ass and stand in front of my car as I hit the gas. These damn programs deceive themselves into your system and do a bunch of crap you don't even want done.
 

yakko

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I see no problem with this since the EULA you agree to says it will uninstall Adaware and programs like it.
 

yllus

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Here are some messages from the RadLight forum. That moron of a main programmer actually tries to defend his actions. He's very well aware that 98% of people will never read the entire EULA to find out exactly what the program will and will not do.


Spyware Sucks !!!
When an unexperienced user runs adaware and finds some app described as spyware he is really likely to click on remove button, because of the word "SPYWARE"... something terrible. I'd wonder what would happen if the latest windows version was described as "SPYWARE" ?? As adaware's behaviour was hostile to our bundle, I had to defend.

spyware
Why do you call it spyware. It's bullshit. This program just shows you ads. Nothing more. I hope you understand that we need money to support further developement. We must eat something for god sake !!!


I officially hate this asshole.
 

PrincessGuard

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<< I see no problem with this since the EULA you agree to says it will uninstall Adaware and programs like it. >>


If MSN Messenger deleted (not uninstalled, mind you) random AIM, ICQ, Trillian, etc. files off your computer without confirmation when you agree to the EULA, would it be ok? Would people start screaming "antitrust" since it sabotages competing products?

It may be "legal," but there are certainly ethical issues here.
 

gopunk

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Jul 7, 2001
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i've often wondered why script kiddies and other such deviants don't target such companies. that's what i would do, if i was so inclined. not that i advocate any illegal activities... but i can't say i'd be disappointed if these companies were hit with a few attacks.
 

yakko

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<< I see no problem with this since the EULA you agree to says it will uninstall Adaware and programs like it. >>


If MSN Messenger deleted (not uninstalled, mind you) random AIM, ICQ, Trillian, etc. files off your computer without confirmation when you agree to the EULA, would it be ok? Would people start screaming "antitrust" since it sabotages competing products?

It may be "legal," but there are certainly ethical issues here.
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When you read the EULA you would know this and just say no. It is not like they are hiding the fact that it does it. There are no ethical issues because you were too lazy to read. If you choose not to read a contract before agreeing to it I don't feel sorry for you. The joke I have always made is that the EULA you agree to when installing Windows probably has written all the way at the bottom "Only a goat fscking moron would click I agree."
 

Nefrodite

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Feb 15, 2001
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i wish people weren't so stupid.:p if no one read spam, no one supported spamming sites then there would be no spam:p too many idiots.
 

johneetrash

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Jan 3, 2001
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<< I guess you have all this bs programs such as ZoneAlarm and AdAware installed on your PC, right? >>



haha!
 

skace

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Jan 23, 2001
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Looks to me that the End User License Agreement continues to get more and more abused every day. One day you are accidently going to click yes and it is going to send your CC out and delete random files. And people will think this is ok because it was in the EULA.
 

b0mbrman

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Jun 1, 2001
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<<

<< If the anti-anti-spam hits my PC then I will promptly register a complaint with the FBI for unauthorized hacking. >>

It wouldn't surprise me if you could since the "Hacking" Laws are so flexable.
>>


Damn...with some of these spam programs I get, I just look at what they do and wonder "Isn't taking over my (insert taskbar, links, startpage, etc.) illegal?
 

Gujski

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They should make a law that requires software EULA's to be under 100 words long, then maybe they wouldn't get abused.

I like cnet's download.com because they usually make you aware of spyware on programs listed there. Personally I download and install alot less stuff than I used to because of this. Kaaza was the only thing I purposely downloaded which I knew had spyware, but i had my Ad-aware and BDE uninstall instructions handy.