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SP2 really deletes the O/S on cracked versions?!

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afropuff

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Is this really true, a friend was telling me about it..

Don't you all think that's a little harsh??

maybe disable the O/S, but to delete it and all the files is pretty crazy...guess that's what they get though eh?

-fro

 
Originally posted by: afropuff
Is this really true, a friend was telling me about it..

Don't you all think that's a little harsh??

maybe disable the O/S, but to delete it and all the files is pretty crazy...guess that's what they get though eh?

-fro
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*EDIT* no SP2 shouldnt delete your OS
 
I never heard of anybody getting their OS deleted from installing SP2. That's just bad rumors, complete poppycock.

 
Originally posted by: s1len7 n1nj4
Originally posted by: afropuff
Is this really true, a friend was telling me about it..

Don't you all think that's a little harsh??

maybe disable the O/S, but to delete it and all the files is pretty crazy...guess that's what they get though eh?

-fro
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are you saying that you are using a cracked version of windows? that calls for a ban
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No...

One of my clan members said that after he installed SP2 his comp crashed and deleted his Windows folder and all of his Office programs.

I didn't think that made any sense so I came here to ask.

I just thought it deleted the boot file or something..

I told him to get a file recovery prog and see if he can find anything with that.

-fro

 
Originally posted by: s1len7 n1nj4
Originally posted by: afropuff
Is this really true, a friend was telling me about it..

Don't you all think that's a little harsh??

maybe disable the O/S, but to delete it and all the files is pretty crazy...guess that's what they get though eh?

-fro
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are you saying that you are using a cracked version of windows? that calls for a ban
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A ban? Come on...

No it doesn't delete anything. IIRC ms allowed SP2 to install even on known pirated systems for security reasons. They didn't want thousands of virus spewing machines out there so they fixed them all.
 
Originally posted by: afropuff
Originally posted by: s1len7 n1nj4
Originally posted by: afropuff
Is this really true, a friend was telling me about it..

Don't you all think that's a little harsh??

maybe disable the O/S, but to delete it and all the files is pretty crazy...guess that's what they get though eh?

-fro
Click to expand...

are you saying that you are using a cracked version of windows? that calls for a ban
Click to expand...



No...

One of my clan members said that after he installed SP2 his comp crashed and deleted his Windows folder and all of his Office programs.

I didn't think that made any sense so I came here to ask.

I just thought it deleted the boot file or something..

I told him to get a file recovery prog and see if he can find anything with that.

-fro
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Maybe it just broke it? There are steps outlined here and their on how to use the recovery console in a Windows cd to back out of a bad service pack 2 install. I think you can get the machine back most of the time.
 
I think he is a newb and doesn't know what is going on lol

Might have been a trojan, but why it would do that right after installing sp2 - I have no idea. He said that recovery prog found a lot of his old files. Btw, there is nothing to recover in terms of any windows program. The physical folders have been deleted.

Anyways, thanks for clearing that up.
 
AFAIK SP2 will only refuse to install on boxes with certain blacklisted keys. These are the same ones which MS blocked in SP1.
 
downloading sp2 via the interweb will blow your house up, castrate you, turn you into a woman, cast spells on you, make cats appear all over, and delete your os.
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
No it doesn't delete anything. IIRC ms allowed SP2 to install even on known pirated systems for security reasons. They didn't want thousands of virus spewing machines out there so they fixed them all.
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Or more likely, for PR reasons, since the issue was getting so much press at the time. Instead of blocking "pirated" serials starting with SP2, they've simply moved that forward to applying to the post-SP2 updates. There has been some talk of them either not installing, or even disabling things, if the key is invalid. I'm not sure about the disabling thing, I would think that would open MS up to liability somehow, but I'm pretty sure the not-installing is correct. After all, MS has started their new "genuine Windows' advantage" program, which won't even allow you to download newer XP updates without validating first.

Edit: There are some known issues with SP2 hosing up systems, if the system had various spyware on it beforehand. That could have been the reason here, not any sort of malicious action by MS.
 
VirtualLarry is correct in that the SP should install even on pirated systems (with the exception of the blacklisted volume license keys from SP1). I've also heard that going forward "post-sp2 updates may not install or function correctly" but never that anything would ever get deleted or disabled.
After all, MS has started their new "genuine Windows' advantage" program, which won't even allow you to download newer XP updates without validating first.
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I've only actually seen the windows validation thing once so far (maybe about a month ago) and it gave me an option to skip the validation and download anyways; have they changed this behavior recently?
 
Originally posted by: spyordie007
VirtualLarry is correct in that the SP should install even on pirated systems (with the exception of the blacklisted volume license keys from SP1). I've also heard that going forward "post-sp2 updates may not install or function correctly" but never that anything would ever get deleted or disabled.
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Well, the "may not install" part seems pretty straightforward, as that is what happens with XP SP1 and pirated keys, but the "may not function correctly" seems to leave them quite a bit of leeway... what if you install an update onto an "invalid" XP system... and mysteriously, it starts to have problems... MS could simply claim that, indeed, that patch caused the system to "not function correctly"... and if the user isn't using a validated "Genuine Windows" OS, then that is their own fault and their own problem... in short, it leads to potential remote disabling of your software, something that is also mentioned in the XP EULA, I believe.
Originally posted by: spyordie007
After all, MS has started their new "genuine Windows' advantage" program, which won't even allow you to download newer XP updates without validating first.
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I've only actually seen the windows validation thing once so far (maybe about a month ago) and it gave me an option to skip the validation and download anyways; have they changed this behavior recently?
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Well, it just kept returning me to the validation screen thing when I tried to download some patches, but possibly that is because I use Firefox and have any cookies disabled for Microsoft's domains. 😛
It sure makes it a PITA to download and collect various patches though. I like to archive them, in case I need to work on someone's system, and they need a patch, and there isn't an internet connection handy. While MS may be allowing downloads currently, they have publically suggested that they will make validation manditory to be allowed to download updates. In fact their own page strongly suggests that will happen.
You may choose not to validate your Windows and still obtain your requested download. However, validating now will enable faster access to the Download Center in the future when validation may be required. After successful validation, a Microsoft Windows Download Key will be stored on your system for future use. Following the validation process, you'll be taken back to the initial download details page to obtain your requested download.
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I object to being tracked that way though, I refuse to be required to accept a tracking cookie, just in order to download updates. (I also block Google's cookies too.)

I miss the "good old days", when every patch and download was available directly on ftp.microsoft.com. :|
 
I look at it this way. Spend the 120 dollars, get a legit copy of windows, therefore you dont have these problems, and be done with it. Also Microsoft has every right to track EVERYONE that owns their software. You have a choice, either you use Windows or Linux or Mac. Its all in the aggreement. If you dont like it dont install windows. You agree to everything Microsoft does on your computer. If you are using Microsoft's software illegally, they have every right to deny you any services on your computer.
 
I object to being tracked that way though, I refuse to be required to accept a tracking cookie, just in order to download updates. (I also block Google's cookies too.)
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Do you block all cookies? I have at least 7 cookies from Anandtech in my Firefox cache right now. Washingtonpost, NYTimes, yahoo, my banking sites, cingular, verizon, almost every site I visit has a cookie.

Cookies are harmless text files. If you are so paranoid about being tracked, perhaps you should shut off your computer and go live in a cave.
 
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