SOURCE CD NOT FAST ENOUGH for CD TO CD BURNING

[biglaw11]

Hi, I recently had to re-format my computer and I'm currently running WINDOWS 98SE. I have a PIONEER 12x/40x DVD ROM and a PLEXTOR 12/10/32x CDRW. Before I reformatted my computer, I was able to burn at 12x without having to copy to hard drive first. Now, after I re-installed everything (all the original drivers), it won't let me burn at 8x or 12x without first copying to the hard drive first (for CD to CD direct copy). (error message says that my source speed is not fast enough, but my DVD player is a 40x). I went to the plextor website and it says to enable DMA in the properties of my drives. I did that and it still doesn't work. I'm using ADAPTEC EZCD Creator 4.0 as I have always been. I'm not sure what else to do. Can you please help? If you have any questions, you can e-mail me back at lawwoo@pcmagic.net. Thanks!!
Please help..anyone...

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[ZoSo]

What are your system specs?, motherboard, etc., is the Plextor ATAPI or SCSI?

 

[biglaw11]

HI ZoSo,
My computer has a BIOSTAR M7MKE motherboard and my PLEXTOR is an ATAPI. What I don't understand is that it worked before the reformat of my computer. I didn't do anything to it and I installed all the SAME drivers I had before. I'm running a AMD ATHLON 600Mhz, 288MB RAM, 20GB HD. Thanks!


biglaw11

 

[Duvie]

Order has a lot to do with things...go grab the latest via 4 in 1 4.29 drivers install those. Same system same drivers different order different performance.

I have had two identical systems being built side by side, installed one set of drivers in different order and one system had all sorts of chaos. That's when I realized there is a heirarchy to installing drivers...For example install a Radeon and don't follow a precise order and performance sucks.

 

[Duvie]

I pm'd you back...Have you made sure your cd source drive is also dma enabled still?...Have you in any way changed the order or cables of the ide devices? could make a difference.

 

[Mday]

EZCD creator is not the best thing for this. use nero or even cdrwin for CD to CD cloning ;-)

not to mention clone CD...
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here is to hoping those 2 drives are not on the same channel...

 

[biglaw11]

Hey everyone!
Does anyone know if there is a function in CLONE CD where you don't have to write to an IMAGE FILE/hard drive first? It usually takes double the time to copy a CD because it has to copy to an image file first. Please help. Thanks!

biglaw11

 

[TheCorm]

I think I may change by CD Copying software, I use Adaptec at the moment. One problem that I have when copying CD's is that my 32x CD ROM drive can read just fast enough to enable writing at 7x which is great as my CD-R is 8x and the next option down is only 4x. I am hoping that my new DVD drive (40x CD) may just boost it enough to reach 8x???

Additionally, this is on a purely educational basis, I would not dream of doing anything illegal you understand but how good is the cd-protection on some games, can you get around it.

Once again, this is just for info not for any illegal doings

Corm

 

[Duvie]

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Order!!! It is common fix for many radeon users and sb live users...

You may want to get a program like cdbench99 to test the speed of the cd-rom you are using...Are you trying to copy audio? cause many cd-roms read audio at much lower speeds than data...My kenwood reads spec 42x benches closer to 50x data but can read dae at only 12x. They often tell you what ever speed you cd-rom reads burn at half speed...so it would be me burning at 6x. I dont I burn at 12x no problems, and with 4mb buffers and burn-proof I don't see much of a problem. My 8x32x dvdrom only reads dae at 6x and I have got an error like yours on that drive when I tried to do an audio. I can't imagine data read at only 12x...
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I want to know if you made sure source cd-rom is dma enabled...sometimes in reinstalls it diverts back to default...

Also I wanted to know if you changed the order of any of your ide devices, primary, secondary, master or slave. Go aheda and list your current ide configuration...


HIS ANSWERS!!

Hi Duvie,
Yeah...my DMA is enabled in both of my drives: the DVD and the Plextor. My current IDS setup is:

PIONEER DVD ROM: Primary SLAVE
PLEXTOR: Secondary MASTER

Also, I just started running dual boot with WIN98SE and WINDOWS 2000 PRO. I tried this with both my operating systems and it gives me the same errors. By any chance, do you know how to enable DMA within WINDOWS 2000? Thanks! I've been doing everything you told me on WINDOWS 98SE. Sorry for not telling you earlier.
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opps..SORRY once again. Yeah, I'm copying a regular AUDIO CD (WAV files). BTW, my specs for my system are:

AMD Athlon 600Mhz
288MB PC133 RAM
20GB Western Digital 5400 RPM HD
SB LIVE VALUE
ATI ALL-in WONDER PRO 16MB
Pioneer 12x/40x DVD
Plextor 12\10\32 ATAPI CDRW

That's basically it.

 

[Duvie]

I forgot to mention we have been conversing alittle through the pm's last night, and I wanted to update so you other guys can see what has been tried and thought of.


Well first it sounds like you have it set up right...that is on separate channels and dma enabled...sometimes for goofy reasons and don't quote me disable dma and try it...

This is were benchmarking will really help...It lets you monkey around with drivers and settings and keep running test and see if it effects your read/write and seek scores...It helped me tell that ms drivers were not as good as 4.25's and 4.28's were better.

It also helped me figure out I had some problems when 32x cd-rom was reading at like 16x data...I fixed it now it benchmarks avg 28x which is about right since 32x would have been a max speed onl achieved at the outer portion of the disk. Also use same disk for good comparisons, as type of data, cd-r or cd-rw, or even color at bottom of disk seems to effect read times in certaincd-roms.

Do you remember if you had dma checked on plextor before? I am not so concerned as having it right as what you had before to make the difference...

It was the same software you were using (adaptec)? I mean exact same version...I had one program have the wrong specs for my cd-rw and that caused problems. Fixed with update. Not all programs are created equally....

 

[randypj]

Same ASPI layer? Going by memory, I'm thinking 3.60 is the latest?

Does Adaptec let you buffer any of the burn to RAM? Same setting in Adaptec as before?

Were all the hard drives in the same master/slave configuration before?

Before, did you have your swap file or buffer file (if Adaptec has one) pointing to a different drive?
--Randy