Soundproofing a room... Questions.

[gaidensensei]

http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/KGBMAN/Trident1.jpg

For once I wasn't expecting this in the thread while reading through. Was looking for the witty remarks. That pic really made me lol when I reached it.

 

[iGas]

A: Concrete/tile board with a thin layer of foam over it. The foam comes on a roll and is normally used under hardwood anyway. The only weird thing would be the concrete board. The concrete board is dense to reduce noise penetration. The foam will damp vibrations. This will cost roughly $1 per sqft, and make your floors a half inch thicker, assuming you are already having the floor replaced. A half inch thicker floor will probably add some labor cost with non-flooring items, like removing and replacing all the baseboard and shoe molding (if any), cutting doors, cutting door frames/jambs etc. Depending on the room, this could get quite costly.

B: Use denser hardwood. This could easily get very pricey. Brazilian Cherry (really a rosewood) is much denser than Red Oak or Maple (most common hardwood flooring in NA) and far more expensive. Most high density wood is imported, rare, and super expensive.

C: Use tile instead of hardwood. Over one inch of stone and concrete on the floor will keep out a lot of noise. Far better for this purpose than any wood.

D: Why does a teenager, living at home, with no job, and very little sense, need to know this?

Why pussy footing around with softwood like Brazilian Cherry with 2300~2400 Janka when harder wood like Lignum Vitae (guayacan, pockenholz) at 4500 Janka exists?

 

[iGas]

Strand bamboo is a reasonably priced uber dense product. That stuff is like battleship armor. You can pick it up for around $3.00 to $3.50 a sq/ft. It's only .55" thick though and not the more common .75" of "real" hardwood.

Bamboo looks amazing on my floor but I keeps getting scratches & dens because it is pretty soft.

IMHO, even maple is harder than bamboo. My mom have maple wood floor, my sisters have oak floor, and a good friend have Brazilian cherry that stills scratches/dents but it seems to take the abuse much better.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Strand bamboo is a reasonably priced uber dense product. That stuff is like battleship armor. You can pick it up for around $3.00 to $3.50 a sq/ft. It's only .55" thick though and not the more common .75" of "real" hardwood.

So my chart lies?

Bamboo isn't so dense, and it's insanely priced for what it actually costs to produce. Bamboo is a fad material in the US, and it's price reflects it. In reality bamboo is a fucking weed.

 

[vi edit]

Bamboo looks amazing on my floor but I keeps getting scratches & dens because it is pretty soft.

Strand is a whole different beast. It can be over 3300 psi on the janka scale.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Why pussy footing around with softwood like Brazilian Cherry with 2300~2400 Janka when harder wood like Lignum Vitae (guayacan, pockenholz) at 4500 Janka exists?

LOL, they used to make ball bearings out of that shit. Good luck finding a floors worth of it for sale in this country at any one time. Good luck sawing it. God help you nailing it!

Like I said, tile.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Strand is a whole different beast. It can be over 3300 psi on the janka scale.

You guys are confusing harness with density. To refresh, density = mass/volume. Diamond is the hardest thing we know of, and something like Plutonium is the densest. Plutonium is pretty soft, but would make a much better sound insulator than diamond. Diamond flooring would be pretty sweet though! (I'm looking at you Mr. Scientist)

 

[vi edit]

You guys are confusing harness with density. To refresh, density = mass/volume. Diamond is the hardest thing we know of, and something like Plutonium is the densest. Plutonium is pretty soft, but would make a much better sound insulator than diamond. Diamond flooring would be pretty sweet though! (I'm looking at you Mr. Scientist)

With hardwood flooring they are largely related. The more dense the floor, the harder it is to dent. The strand bamboo I bought covers just under 23 sq/ft a carton and it weighs 80 pounds. That's almost 3.5 pounds a sq/ft and it's only .55".

A carton of 5/8" brazilian cherry that covers almost 25.5 sq/ft is under 70 pounds.

3/4" Red oak that covers 20 sq/ft is only 50 pounds.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Or instead of magnets you can go with RSIC clips.

That is clearly a more rational approach ... but still, having a room within a room that floats on magnets would be pretty cool!

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Sorry to say you're a long way away from installing hardwood floors in a house. It would require knowledge of tools and being good with your hands. Having never had a job requiring you to use either one it would end up a train wreck with your parents having to hire a pro to come out and clean up your mess.

 

[MyThirdEye]

i thought he offed himself a long time ago

 

[zinfamous]

whatever you do, your parents will always hear you fap.