Sorry, wrong title about FX, plus incorrect info from Tom's

[Piroko]

Yea, seems like it's a different Bulldozer bin, perhaps to sell off some more harvested Dies. FX4100 is lower clocked but with 8 MB L3, FX4130 is clocked 200 Mhz higher but with 4 MB L3 and higher TDP. Both are just barely cheaper than a FX6100...

 

[inf64]

No it seems they put that model in the slide above as it was a refresh to FX4100 series(so why not?). This cpu launched back in August last year (for OEMs I suppose). Now they "re-launched" it for retail.

 

[DominionSeraph]

Read my post above . It IS Zambezi core, THG is wrong (not surprising ).

It's based off of Piledriver

The author even specifically notes that it is part of the 4100 series, but then states it is a Vishera core despite the name.

AAAAAARGH!!

Is anyone else utterly confused over AMD's lineup?

So an FX 8XXX is 8 cores, but not really.
An A10-5XXX isn't 10 cores, or 5.
A8-5XXX? Oh, that's the same number of cores as the A10.
But A6 is... half as many?
And... are those real cores? Modules?
And what in God's green Earth is the Athlon II X4 750k?
(And let's not even get into the Opterons)

Bulldozer, Zambezi, Piledriver, Trinity, Llano, Brazos, Vishera... what the hell's FM1, FM2, and is any damn thing AM3 anymore?

 

[Ventanni]

AAAAAARGH!!

Is anyone else utterly confused over AMD's lineup?

So an FX 8XXX is 8 cores, but not really.
An A10-5XXX isn't 10 cores, or 5.
A8-5XXX? Oh, that's the same number of cores as the A10.
But A6 is... half as many?
And... are those real cores? Modules?
And what in God's green Earth is the Athlon II X4 750k?
(And let's not even get into the Opterons)

Bulldozer, Zambezi, Piledriver, Trinity, Llano, Brazos, Vishera... what the hell's FM1, FM2, and is any damn thing AM3 anymore?

I agree. And here I thought Intels' naming convention was bad.

 

[inf64]

It takes literary 2 minutes to find the answers via google
FX8- eight cores(threads)/4 modules
FX6- six cores(threads)/3 modules
FX4- 4 cores(threads)/2 modules

Pilderiver-2nd gen Bulldozer,models start with 83xx/63xx/43xx (~10-20% faster than Bulldozer)
Bulldozer-1st iteration of design,models start with 81xx/61xx/41xx

FM1- llano's socket,outdated. Llano models started at A8 for highest performing QC part
FM2- trinity's(based on PD core) socket,supposedly supports Kaveri too(SR core+GCN). Trinity parts start with A10/A8 for highest performing part with 2 modules(4 threads or cores if you will), lower core count(2 cores) is at A6 and A4.

Athlon II X4 750K is a very nice little chip . It's a 4 core(thread) Trinity part at 3.4Ghz,unlocked,with fused of iGPU and has a 100W TDP spec. Good for cheap desktop builds ,OCs to ~4.5Ghz on solid air cooler(and has a good power draw even heavily OCed).
Brazos is platform based on Bobcat cpu core and VLIW4 graphics. Chip code name is Ontario(it's also an "APU"). Used for low power notebooks,netbooks and tablets.
Cores are real alright, FP unit is shared in modules(between 2 cores) so that's primary reason why it takes "8 cores" to match 8 threads in MT workloads since in both cases (for say 8350 and 3770K) we have 4 dual threaded FP units vs 4 dual threaded FP units . Integer cores are dedicated though.
AM3+ is a current platform for non-APU CPUs. It's used for FX and older Phenoms. APU sockets are AMD's future and they will probably unite both under one socket when FM3+ or whatever they call it launches. So it will be one socket for both SR based APU and "non-APU" models(if they make those that is).

 

[Arkaign]

AAAAAARGH!!

Is anyone else utterly confused over AMD's lineup?

So an FX 8XXX is 8 cores, but not really.
An A10-5XXX isn't 10 cores, or 5.
A8-5XXX? Oh, that's the same number of cores as the A10.
But A6 is... half as many?
And... are those real cores? Modules?
And what in God's green Earth is the Athlon II X4 750k?
(And let's not even get into the Opterons)

Bulldozer, Zambezi, Piledriver, Trinity, Llano, Brazos, Vishera... what the hell's FM1, FM2, and is any damn thing AM3 anymore?

Hahaha, yeah it's utterly idiotic.

I LOL'd at an overheard conversation at MC the other day :

"I'm buying a 3770K, it seems like the best deal right now!"

Oh yeah? Well I have a 3870k, and it's much better!

Super lame number choices, obvious trolling by AMD to make their crap seem more competitive.

 

[piesquared]

It takes literary 2 minutes to find the answers via google
FX8- eight cores(threads)/4 modules
FX6- six cores(threads)/3 modules
FX4- 4 cores(threads)/2 modules

Pilderiver-2nd gen Bulldozer,models start with 83xx/63xx/43xx (~10-20% faster than Bulldozer)
Bulldozer-1st iteration of design,models start with 81xx/61xx/41xx

FM1- llano's socket,outdated. Llano models started at A8 for highest performing QC part
FM2- trinity's(based on PD core) socket,supposedly supports Kaveri too(SR core+GCN). Trinity parts start with A10/A8 for highest performing part with 2 modules(4 threads or cores if you will), lower core count(2 cores) is at A6 and A4.

Athlon II X4 750K is a very nice little chip . It's a 4 core(thread) Trinity part at 3.4Ghz,unlocked,with fused of iGPU and has a 100W TDP spec. Good for cheap desktop builds ,OCs to ~4.5Ghz on solid air cooler(and has a good power draw even heavily OCed).
Brazos is platform based on Bobcat cpu core and VLIW4 graphics. Chip code name is Ontario(it's also an "APU"). Used for low power notebooks,netbooks and tablets.
Cores are real alright, FP unit is shared in modules(between 2 cores) so that's primary reason why it takes "8 cores" to match 8 threads in MT workloads since in both cases (for say 8350 and 3770K) we have 4 dual threaded FP units vs 4 dual threaded FP units . Integer cores are dedicated though.
AM3+ is a current platform for non-APU CPUs. It's used for FX and older Phenoms. APU sockets are AMD's future and they will probably unite both under one socket when FM3+ or whatever they call it launches. So it will be one socket for both SR based APU and "non-APU" models(if they make those that is).

Yeah it's pretty simple really. I guess it needed to be dumbed down for the simple people though.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Please. This is not about "simple people". The confusion is because of AMD's "announcing" this chip like it is something new.

I know Chris Angelini over at THG, and he has a query into AMD right now. Hopefully they'll have something definitive to say soon.

 

[Ferzerp]

Hahaha, yeah it's utterly idiotic.

I LOL'd at an overheard conversation at MC the other day :

"I'm buying a 3770K, it seems like the best deal right now!"

Oh yeah? Well I have a 3870k, and it's much better!

Super lame number choices, obvious trolling by AMD to make their crap seem more competitive.

Almost as dumb as SB-E being a 39xx product instead of a 29xx product

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Please. This is not about "simple people". The confusion is because of AMD's "announcing" this chip like it is something new.

I know Chris Angelini over at THG, and he has a query into AMD right now. Hopefully they'll have something definitive to say soon.

In case anyone cares, here's the deal.

The FX-4130 was announced last summer but apparently never shipped. They just "relaunched it" with the price dropped to match the 4100. And as suspected, it is indeed Bulldozer, not Piledriver.

 

[Idontcare]

In case anyone cares, here's the deal.

The FX-4130 was announced last summer but apparently never shipped. They just "relaunched it" with the price dropped to match the 4100. And as suspected, it is indeed Bulldozer, not Piledriver.

Bulldozer is still in production Why?

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Bulldozer is still in production Why?

Because it's winter silly, they're marketing it as a cpu/spaceheater all in one solution. Not APU, CPHU (Central Processing Heater Unit). ^_^

 

[Tsavo]

Bulldozer is still in production Why?

Something something AMD something something.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Bulldozer is still in production Why?

This seems to be the only Bulldozer part with only 4 MB of L3. My guess is that they took every Bulldozer FX with too many flaws to sell as a proper chip and stuck them on a shelf somewhere. Then some accountant noticed they were sitting there and said "well, get SOMETHING for them!"

And voila, the FX-4130.

 

[Idontcare]

Because it's winter silly, they're marketing it as a cpu/spaceheater all in one solution. Not APU, CPHU (Central Processing Heater Unit). ^_^

Something something AMD something something.

This seems to be the only Bulldozer part with only 4 MB of L3. My guess is that they took every Bulldozer FX with too many flaws to sell as a proper chip and stuck them on a shelf somewhere. Then some accountant noticed they were sitting there and said "well, get SOMETHING for them!"

And voila, the FX-4130.

I wish I could say all your posts have zero merit...but I can't :|

 

[Zor Prime]

I wish I could say all your posts have zero merit...but I can't :|

I'll go one further. If there was some truth to AMD not paying GF for dies that weren't up to snuff, and these were classified as those, these could be pure profit for AMD.

"Ah, they'll never notice ... if they do, we have a good BS story."

/shrug

 

[NTMBK]

Hahaha, yeah it's utterly idiotic.

I LOL'd at an overheard conversation at MC the other day :

"I'm buying a 3770K, it seems like the best deal right now!"

Oh yeah? Well I have a 3870k, and it's much better!

Super lame number choices, obvious trolling by AMD to make their crap seem more competitive.

I'm very sad that AMD have copied Intel's confusing/misleading "iWhatever" model naming strategy. "My laptop has an i7! It'd kick the ass of you desktop with an i3!"