Sorry to pop the balloon......

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: neodyn55

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Lol an extremist radical Hindu starting an anti-Pakistan thread where he says Pakistan is the epicenter of "Islamist terror." The irony!

Oh no, terror and Pakistan has absolutely no connection

/burrows head back into the sand again.

It certainly doesn't when you compare it to the state-sponsored terrorism by India in their side of Kashmir and Gujrat.

How about you try to respond to the OP's original points instead of trying to derail the thread? This thread is about Pakistan. What do you think of the OP's concern?

Whether you like it or not, terrorists have a haven in your country. Whats going to happen with that, now that there's a new government?

You have a very general definition of terrorists. Foreign terrorists hiding here will be dealt with. However a permanent peace will be declared with the tribes of Waziristan. That is if the wishes of the masses are taken into account. All the foreign terrorists have fled from Afghanistan when Nato failed to capture them before they crossed the border. They are the ones causing havoc in Pakistan and across Europe and America. Nato started it. We shall all have to suffer.

NATO STARTED IT!?? 😕

You are delusional.

Both the Taliban and Al Qaeda must be captured or destroyed. Period. Is Pakistan prepared to assist in that effort, or not?

There was no Taliban or Alqeeda in Pakistan before the American invasion. Now you might say that it was Pakistan who supported the taliban in the first palce. You can imagine what Afghanistan was after America left it to rot before the taliban came. Besides, the taliban had nothing to do with 9/11. They just refused to extradite OBL and I expect my government to do the same if he is found in our land. He should be tried in Pakistan if found here.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Lol an extremist radical Hindu starting an anti-Pakistan thread where he says Pakistan is the epicenter of "Islamist terror." The irony!

How about a non-radical Deist American who agrees with him? Pakistan IS one of the world's centers for violent Islamic extremists.

The Taliban and Al Qaeda -- two of the world's most violent Islamic organizations -- are both headquartered in YOUR country.

Imagine that.

Don't like that truth? Then get off your collective arses and get rid of them.

Proof? You give us your intelligence proving where the taliban are and we will take them out. I was going to say more but it will definitely hijack this useless thread and make it last longer than it should.

LOL!!!! Did you seriously just ask for proof that AQ and the Taliban reside in Pakistan?! Is that supposed to be some sort of joke!?

You know g'damn well who is there, where they are, and what they're doing.

So you really do get brainwashed with all that your media and government feed you without any facts. There maybe a few elements of both organizations fleeing into our country due to your failures but that certainly doesn't mean either are headquartered here as you claim them to be.

Do you have proof their not headquarted there, or are you the one being brainwashed?

Seriously, how is your word any better then Palehorses?

Stop going outside the laws of logic. The accuser has to bring proof not the accused.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'll modify something once said on this subject: You're either with us, against us, or you need to stand aside while we take care of our fvcking business. Period.

I'll say two words: You wish!

btw: aren't you the smartass that has claimed to have studied at a number of universites and is yet to show any sign of intelligence?

edit 2: Who loves to play the blame game now? Blaming all your failures in Afghanistan on Pakistan! You let them get away. Now they are on OUR land! We will do as we please. Stop ordering us around...unless you really want a WW3.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You know what the choices are. You can stand with those who see the fundamental identity of all individuals and work for universal harmony through love or you can try to demonize and kill the other our of fear.

Choices are all fine. But what matters most is the march of history. Lets hope the Pakistanis march themselves towards peace, prosperity and stability.

Or you will conquer them with your twin swords of righteous might and justice.

Right?

 

[Exterous]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Lol an extremist radical Hindu starting an anti-Pakistan thread where he says Pakistan is the epicenter of "Islamist terror." The irony!

How about a non-radical Deist American who agrees with him? Pakistan IS one of the world's centers for violent Islamic extremists.

The Taliban and Al Qaeda -- two of the world's most violent Islamic organizations -- are both headquartered in YOUR country.

Imagine that.

Don't like that truth? Then get off your collective arses and get rid of them.

Proof? You give us your intelligence proving where the taliban are and we will take them out. I was going to say more but it will definitely hijack this useless thread and make it last longer than it should.

LOL!!!! Did you seriously just ask for proof that AQ and the Taliban reside in Pakistan?! Is that supposed to be some sort of joke!?

You know g'damn well who is there, where they are, and what they're doing.

So you really do get brainwashed with all that your media and government feed you without any facts. There maybe a few elements of both organizations fleeing into our country due to your failures but that certainly doesn't mean either are headquartered here as you claim them to be.

Do you have proof their not headquarted there, or are you the one being brainwashed?

Seriously, how is your word any better then Palehorses?

Stop going outside the laws of logic. The accuser has to bring proof not the accused.

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That just has to deal with the taliban not al qaeda. While it doesn't prove they are headquartered there, to say there is not a significant presence is a misnomer

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You know what the choices are. You can stand with those who see the fundamental identity of all individuals and work for universal harmony through love or you can try to demonize and kill the other our of fear.

Choices are all fine. But what matters most is the march of history. Lets hope the Pakistanis march themselves towards peace, prosperity and stability.

Yeah. . .and while that's happening a leopard will be learning how to change his spots.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Stop going outside the laws of logic. The accuser has to bring proof not the accused.

Well, if you could show he was wrong that would make you case rather nicely.

All I know is what I read or see on the news. They did just strike inside Pakistan with a drone and supposedly took out "Abu Laith al-Libi, a senior al-Qaeda commander and a man who had repeatedly eluded the CIA's dragnet. It was the first successful strike against al-Qaeda's core leadership in two years, and it involved, U.S. officials say, an unusual degree of autonomy by the CIA inside Pakistan. "

The rumor has it Osama is in Pakistan but for all I know he could be under several tons of rocks back at that moutain range too? What was it name, Tora Bora??

 

[Exterous]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'll modify something once said on this subject: You're either with us, against us, or you need to stand aside while we take care of our fvcking business. Period.

I'll say two words: You wish!

btw: aren't you the smartass that has claimed to have studied at a number of universites and is yet to show any sign of intelligence?

edit 2: Who loves to play the blame game now? Blaming all your failures in Afghanistan on Pakistan! You let them get away. Now they are on OUR land! We will do as we please. Stop ordering us around...unless you really want a WW3.

For someone who claims they don't blame "ALL" of his countries problems on America you sure are quick to assume that someone else is putting "ALL" the blame on your country. No where in his posts in this thread do I see him say "Pakistan is at fault for all of this" or any comparable statement

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You know what the choices are. You can stand with those who see the fundamental identity of all individuals and work for universal harmony through love or you can try to demonize and kill the other our of fear.

And while you're all trying to convince people to hug and kiss and make up, the ones willing to kill for what they believe in will be picking off the pacifists one by one. Those fundamentalists who are truly dedicated to their insane cause will NEVER be swayed. How many innocent people should die in the in the futile attempt of trying to convert one person to a more civilized and tolerant perspective on the world? The way you deal with insane fundamentalists is you find them and you kill them before they kill you. That is exactly what they are trying to do to you. Whichever side kills the other first is the winner. That's just how the cold indifferent universe works. Who's right or wrong, what's good or evil. . .they don't matter. They are only concepts conceived of by human beings. What matters is that you decide what you believe and pick your side. If you choose inaction, the fight will come to you and your hand will be forced. You can either fight or be obliterated. That is why the old saying goes, "To secure peace is to prepare for war."

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: Exterous

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Lol an extremist radical Hindu starting an anti-Pakistan thread where he says Pakistan is the epicenter of "Islamist terror." The irony!

How about a non-radical Deist American who agrees with him? Pakistan IS one of the world's centers for violent Islamic extremists.

The Taliban and Al Qaeda -- two of the world's most violent Islamic organizations -- are both headquartered in YOUR country.

Imagine that.

Don't like that truth? Then get off your collective arses and get rid of them.

Proof? You give us your intelligence proving where the taliban are and we will take them out. I was going to say more but it will definitely hijack this useless thread and make it last longer than it should.

LOL!!!! Did you seriously just ask for proof that AQ and the Taliban reside in Pakistan?! Is that supposed to be some sort of joke!?

You know g'damn well who is there, where they are, and what they're doing.

So you really do get brainwashed with all that your media and government feed you without any facts. There maybe a few elements of both organizations fleeing into our country due to your failures but that certainly doesn't mean either are headquartered here as you claim them to be.

Do you have proof their not headquarted there, or are you the one being brainwashed?

Seriously, how is your word any better then Palehorses?

Stop going outside the laws of logic. The accuser has to bring proof not the accused.

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That just has to deal with the taliban not al qaeda. While it doesn't prove they are headquartered there, to say there is not a significant presence is a misnomer

I can probably find more links from the past from the same sources claiming that Saddam had WMDs and was a threat. edit: for the mentally challenge it means that those sources are not worth a dime. Most of those come from British or American claims.

 

[Exterous]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Exterous

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That just has to deal with the taliban not al qaeda. While it doesn't prove they are headquartered there, to say there is not a significant presence is a misnomer

I can probably find more links from the past from the same sources claiming that Saddam had WMDs and was a threat. edit: for the mentally challenge it means that those sources are not worth a dime. Most of those come from British or American claims.

Where would you like sources from that you will believe?

 

[Exterous]

Lets see...
China (Hong Kong)
South Africa
Australia
China

Again, this is just taliban. If you could answer the above post it would save me time in finding these pages - its harder when you only know a few languages

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: neodyn55

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Lol an extremist radical Hindu starting an anti-Pakistan thread where he says Pakistan is the epicenter of "Islamist terror." The irony!

Oh no, terror and Pakistan has absolutely no connection

/burrows head back into the sand again.

It certainly doesn't when you compare it to the state-sponsored terrorism by India in their side of Kashmir and Gujrat.

How about you try to respond to the OP's original points instead of trying to derail the thread? This thread is about Pakistan. What do you think of the OP's concern?

Whether you like it or not, terrorists have a haven in your country. Whats going to happen with that, now that there's a new government?

You have a very general definition of terrorists. Foreign terrorists hiding here will be dealt with. However a permanent peace will be declared with the tribes of Waziristan. That is if the wishes of the masses are taken into account. All the foreign terrorists have fled from Afghanistan when Nato failed to capture them before they crossed the border. They are the ones causing havoc in Pakistan and across Europe and America. Nato started it. We shall all have to suffer.

NATO STARTED IT!?? 😕

You are delusional.

Both the Taliban and Al Qaeda must be captured or destroyed. Period. Is Pakistan prepared to assist in that effort, or not?

There was no Taliban or Alqeeda in Pakistan before the American invasion. Now you might say that it was Pakistan who supported the taliban in the first palce. You can imagine what Afghanistan was after America left it to rot before the taliban came. Besides, the taliban had nothing to do with 9/11. They just refused to extradite OBL and I expect my government to do the same if he is found in our land. He should be tried in Pakistan if found here.

LOL why? So he can be found not guilty by a culture that idolizes him and set free again? He masterminded attacks on AMERICAN SOIL. What crime would you be trying him for in Pakistan? What charges are there against him in Pakistan?

 

[CPA]

And when that happens OP, The Green Bean and his buddies will be pleading for the Americans to come in and help.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Braznor
........but is the world celebrating too soon over Pakistan?

I'm unaware of this celebration you speak of.

I thought we here in the USA were generally quite nervous about the situation in Pakistan?

Fern

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'll modify something once said on this subject: You're either with us, against us, or you need to stand aside while we take care of our fvcking business. Period.

I'll say two words: You wish!

btw: aren't you the smartass that has claimed to have studied at a number of universites and is yet to show any sign of intelligence?

edit 2: Who loves to play the blame game now? Blaming all your failures in Afghanistan on Pakistan! You let them get away. Now they are on OUR land! We will do as we please. Stop ordering us around...unless you really want a WW3.

I'm finished with you TGB. You, and those like you, are the reason that Pakistan will always remain several hundred years behind the rest of the world.

You know damn well which terrorists are in your country, where they are, and maybe even what they're doing. Hell, for all we know, you're one of them. The fact that you and your brethren refuse to assist the civilized world in hunting down murderous criminals is despicable.

So be it. We'll continue to hunt them down and destroy them ourselves. I only suggest that you stay the hell out of our way.

Good luck with your so-called "new government" -- you're going to need it!

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I'll modify something once said on this subject: You're either with us, against us, or you need to stand aside while we take care of our fvcking business. Period.

I'll say two words: You wish!

btw: aren't you the smartass that has claimed to have studied at a number of universites and is yet to show any sign of intelligence?

edit 2: Who loves to play the blame game now? Blaming all your failures in Afghanistan on Pakistan! You let them get away. Now they are on OUR land! We will do as we please. Stop ordering us around...unless you really want a WW3.

I'm finished with you TGB. You, and those like you, are the reason that Pakistan will always remain several hundred years behind the rest of the world.

You know damn well which terrorists are in your country, where they are, and maybe even what they're doing. Hell, for all we know, you're one of them. The fact that you and your brethren refuse to assist the civilized world in hunting down murderous criminals is despicable.

So be it. We'll continue to hunt them down and destroy them ourselves. I only suggest that you stay the hell out of our way.

Good luck with your so-called "new government" -- you're going to need it!

LOL now you are claiming I'm a terrorist. Now I get it... Anyone that does not agree with your murderous tactics is a terrorist.

You know where Bush is committing war crimes from. You hand him to us and then we shall think about hunting OBL down. You must remember that Bush's bombs and illegal wars have killed far more innocent muslims that the terrorists have killed Americans. Obviously if you for some reason believe that those American lives are more important or a bigger loss than you can go f*** yourself.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: ahurtt
LOL why? So he can be found not guilty by a culture that idolizes him and set free again? He masterminded attacks on AMERICAN SOIL. What crime would you be trying him for in Pakistan? What charges are there against him in Pakistan?

I should suppose mass murder in any country would equal death.

You shouldn't really expect us to like the Americans after the number of innocent muslims it has killed, tortured, humiliated, the land it has taken from us. A great muslim general once said "The enemy of your enemy is your friend."

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: CPA
And when that happens OP, The Green Bean and his buddies will be pleading for the Americans to come in and help.

I'd rather eat dirt than beg you for help. I've never really seen a less sincere "friend" than America.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: ahurtt
LOL why? So he can be found not guilty by a culture that idolizes him and set free again? He masterminded attacks on AMERICAN SOIL. What crime would you be trying him for in Pakistan? What charges are there against him in Pakistan?

I should suppose mass murder in any country would equal death.

You shouldn't really expect us to like the Americans after the number of innocent muslims it has killed, tortured, humiliated, the land it has taken from us. A great muslim general once said "The enemy of your enemy is your friend."

So It's exactly like I said then. . .You just said it yourself. . .OBL is your friend.
He is wanted by America for crimes of terrorism against America on American soil and so on American soil he should be tried. However, I have absolutely 0 belief that he would ever let himself be captured alive, if he is in fact still alive, so it's really a moot point.

And as far as the killing of innocent Muslims goes, I suppose it's American's who are also strapping explosive laden vests on themselves and blowing themselves up in crowded markets and streets full of yet more innocent Muslims? In Israel, in Palestine, in Iraq, in Afghanistan. . .it's practically a weekly or daily occurrence. There is plenty of blame to go all around here. Neither side is without blood on it's hands. The only difference is, when Islamic extremists kill innocents, even other innocent Muslims, it's not collateral damage. It's fucking intentional.

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: ahurtt
LOL why? So he can be found not guilty by a culture that idolizes him and set free again? He masterminded attacks on AMERICAN SOIL. What crime would you be trying him for in Pakistan? What charges are there against him in Pakistan?

I should suppose mass murder in any country would equal death.

You shouldn't really expect us to like the Americans after the number of innocent muslims it has killed, tortured, humiliated, the land it has taken from us. A great muslim general once said "The enemy of your enemy is your friend."

So It's exactly like I said then. . .You just said it yourself. . .OBL is your friend.
He is wanted by America for crimes of terrorism against America on American soil and so on American soil he should be tried. However, I have absolutely 0 belief that he would ever let himself be captured alive, if he is in fact still alive, so it's really a moot point.

And as far as the killing of innocent Muslims goes, I suppose it's American's who are also strapping explosive laden vests on themselves and blowing themselves up in crowded markets and streets full of yet more innocent Muslims? In Israel, in Palestine, in Iraq, in Afghanistan. . .it's practically a weekly or daily occurrence. There is plenty of blame to go all around here. Neither side is without blood on it's hands. The only difference is, when Islamic extremists kill innocents, even other innocent Muslims, it's not collateral damage. It's fucking intentional.

Yes I agree with you. I never said that what the terrorists are doing is anywhere near acceptable. But if capturing them means the invasion of our sovereignty or more Pakistan deaths then the answer is no.

OBL is our enemy too. He has killed more Pakistanis than Americans. I just have a hard time deciding which of the two is the bigger enemy. However, that choice will be easier to make if America continues to strike within our borders.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Lol an extremist radical Hindu starting an anti-Pakistan thread where he says Pakistan is the epicenter of "Islamist terror." The irony!

Any better than a Pakistani starting an anti-American thread blaming them for all of their nations problems?

Links? I never blamed America for ALL our problems. But we would've been far better off without them meddling in our affairs.

Meddling in your affairs? Cry me a river. Pakistan and the ME has been @#$!@ since the get-go. Well before we "meddled" in your "affairs".

Keep blowing people up and see if I care.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: ahurtt
LOL why? So he can be found not guilty by a culture that idolizes him and set free again? He masterminded attacks on AMERICAN SOIL. What crime would you be trying him for in Pakistan? What charges are there against him in Pakistan?

I should suppose mass murder in any country would equal death.

You shouldn't really expect us to like the Americans after the number of innocent muslims it has killed, tortured, humiliated, the land it has taken from us. A great muslim general once said "The enemy of your enemy is your friend."

So It's exactly like I said then. . .You just said it yourself. . .OBL is your friend.
He is wanted by America for crimes of terrorism against America on American soil and so on American soil he should be tried. However, I have absolutely 0 belief that he would ever let himself be captured alive, if he is in fact still alive, so it's really a moot point.

And as far as the killing of innocent Muslims goes, I suppose it's American's who are also strapping explosive laden vests on themselves and blowing themselves up in crowded markets and streets full of yet more innocent Muslims? In Israel, in Palestine, in Iraq, in Afghanistan. . .it's practically a weekly or daily occurrence. There is plenty of blame to go all around here. Neither side is without blood on it's hands. The only difference is, when Islamic extremists kill innocents, even other innocent Muslims, it's not collateral damage. It's fucking intentional.

Yes I agree with you. I never said that what the terrorists are doing is anywhere near acceptable. But if capturing them means the invasion of our sovereignty or more Pakistan deaths then the answer is no.

OBL is our enemy too. He has killed more Pakistanis than Americans. I just have a hard time deciding which of the two is the bigger enemy. However, that choice will be easier to make if America continues to strike within our borders.

But here's the thing. . .America is not trying to make a home in Pakistan. The Taliban and OBL's AQ buddies ARE. They will stay there for good, as long as you let them. America wants simply to eradicate them and then go away. America will leave once it has achieved it's goal, the terrorists will never leave until they are hunted down and killed. It is in neither countries best interests to side with these bastards or just leave them be to their own devices. Not ours, not yours. It is unfortunate that they have brought the fight to your country. But now that the fight has come to you, you have to pick a side. You don't have to particularly like either one. But you have to decide which is the lesser of two evils to you. Because the terrorists are there whether you invited them or not. And they MUST be dealt with one way or another. Either drive them back into Afghanistan yourselves where American forces are already waiting for them with open arms and then seal them out of your borders and prevent them from reentering, or help us root them out. This doesn't have to be a confrontation. But resistance will be met with force because we simply MUST get these bastards. There is no other choice. We will not permit them to hole up there and plan out ways to slaughter us. You don't always get to choose your battles in life. Sometimes the fight comes to you. On 9/11 it came to America. Now those same ones that brought the fight to American soil on that fateful day, are bringing it to Pakistani soil. Will you let them? It is up to you.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Lol an extremist radical Hindu starting an anti-Pakistan thread where he says Pakistan is the epicenter of "Islamist terror." The irony!

How about a non-radical Deist American who agrees with him? Pakistan IS one of the world's centers for violent Islamic extremists.

The Taliban and Al Qaeda -- two of the world's most violent Islamic organizations -- are both headquartered in YOUR country.

Imagine that.

Don't like that truth? Then get off your collective arses and get rid of them.

Proof? You give us your intelligence proving where the taliban are and we will take them out. I was going to say more but it will definitely hijack this useless thread and make it last longer than it should.

LOL!!!! Did you seriously just ask for proof that AQ and the Taliban reside in Pakistan?! Is that supposed to be some sort of joke!?

You know g'damn well who is there, where they are, and what they're doing.

So you really do get brainwashed with all that your media and government feed you without any facts. There maybe a few elements of both organizations fleeing into our country due to your failures but that certainly doesn't mean either are headquartered here as you claim them to be.

Do you have proof their not headquarted there, or are you the one being brainwashed?

Seriously, how is your word any better then Palehorses?

Stop going outside the laws of logic. The accuser has to bring proof not the accused.

stop dodging the question.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Lol an extremist radical Hindu starting an anti-Pakistan thread where he says Pakistan is the epicenter of "Islamist terror." The irony!

How about a non-radical Deist American who agrees with him? Pakistan IS one of the world's centers for violent Islamic extremists.

The Taliban and Al Qaeda -- two of the world's most violent Islamic organizations -- are both headquartered in YOUR country.

Imagine that.

Don't like that truth? Then get off your collective arses and get rid of them.

Proof? You give us your intelligence proving where the taliban are and we will take them out. I was going to say more but it will definitely hijack this useless thread and make it last longer than it should.

LOL!!!! Did you seriously just ask for proof that AQ and the Taliban reside in Pakistan?! Is that supposed to be some sort of joke!?

You know g'damn well who is there, where they are, and what they're doing.

So you really do get brainwashed with all that your media and government feed you without any facts. There maybe a few elements of both organizations fleeing into our country due to your failures but that certainly doesn't mean either are headquartered here as you claim them to be.

No clown, I've been there, and I've seen them myself. I have literally looked through binoculars at Taliban/AQ terrorists who were looking through their own set of binos at me.

They rest there, train there, plan there, recover there, and then launch their attacks throughout the world -- including attacks against the US and our allies in Afghanistan.

Both organizations have many camps located throughout northwest Pakistan, and you damn well know it.

Stop playing games. This is not a joke. The Taliban and AQ must be captured or destroyed, and Pakistan will soon have to decide whose side they're on.

I'll modify something once said on this subject: You're either with us, against us, or you need to stand aside while we take care of our fvcking business. Period.

pure ownage, so beautiful