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[PistachioByAzul]

Looking at the bigger picture, you can see that over history, one war has only paved the way for another later on. Where can it conceivably end?

Children are the direct products of the adults they are exposed to.

 

[gump47371]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
The war between the two peoples is one thing. The maniac amassing loads of arms with plans to destroy lots off innocent people is another.

Care to give us YOUR idea on what to do with Sadaam?

i think we should have killed him 10 years ago when daddy Bush was runnin things.

We tried.

Next WONDERFUL idea?

Wrong, genius. GHW Bush was given the stipulation from the UN that the only way they would approve him going into Iraq was that he left Saddam in power. Otherwise we would have gotten him.

"We tried." Yeah, they beat us back with the sticks their white flags were on.

 

[Riprorin]

I thought wisdom came with age? Why do they still think war is an answer?

And the answer is? The reality is sometimes war is unavoidable.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: gump47371

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Sometimes, violence is the only way to handle a situation. Look at Deep Space Nine. In startrek, the Federation is all about peace, but they had to fight a huge war with the dominion. Would you rather they just sat there and took it up the rear?

Good point. I don't know much about Star Trek, but everyone thinks that if we ignore the Middle East problem, it will go away. WRONG!!!

OK, geniuses, if war is not the answer, please provide an option to it, because there is a lunatic in Iraq with some nasty sh!t that is crazy enough to use it. So if you have a better answer on how to deal with him, I would love to hear it instead of your b!tching on how bad someone's action against it.

ok ill agree that War is the answer sometimes. but this middleast this DOSENT concern us. mainily speaking about Isrial and palestine. its 10,000 miles away and we should just get the fuk out and mind our busness. if they want to go to war with each other fine. and to the victor go the spoils. simple

Im undecided on thsi Iraq thing havent thought about it enough yet

If the U.S. turns its back on the Israeli/Palestinian issue the Palestinians will cease to exist. People don't seem to understand that we are a restraining force on Israel.

 

[PistachioByAzul]

Where are the weapons and the plans ffmcobalt?

 

[PistachioByAzul]

The reality is sometimes war is unavoidable.

Tell that to Jesus Christ.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: gump47371

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Sometimes, violence is the only way to handle a situation. Look at Deep Space Nine. In startrek, the Federation is all about peace, but they had to fight a huge war with the dominion. Would you rather they just sat there and took it up the rear?

Good point. I don't know much about Star Trek, but everyone thinks that if we ignore the Middle East problem, it will go away. WRONG!!!

OK, geniuses, if war is not the answer, please provide an option to it, because there is a lunatic in Iraq with some nasty sh!t that is crazy enough to use it. So if you have a better answer on how to deal with him, I would love to hear it instead of your b!tching on how bad someone's action against it.

ok ill agree that War is the answer sometimes. but this middleast this DOSENT concern us. mainily speaking about Isrial and palestine. its 10,000 miles away and we should just get the fuk out and mind our busness. if they want to go to war with each other fine. and to the victor go the spoils. simple

Im undecided on thsi Iraq thing havent thought about it enough yet

If the U.S. turns its back on the Israeli/Palestinian issue the Palestinians will cease to exist. People don't seem to understand that we are a restraining force on Israel.

Im gonna get yelled at for this but.... What happened to survival of the fittiest???? isrial obviously being more fit " Better equpied" win and live on. yes its morbid and not morally PC but sometimes thst just the way things work

 

[gump47371]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: gump47371

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Sometimes, violence is the only way to handle a situation. Look at Deep Space Nine. In startrek, the Federation is all about peace, but they had to fight a huge war with the dominion. Would you rather they just sat there and took it up the rear?

Good point. I don't know much about Star Trek, but everyone thinks that if we ignore the Middle East problem, it will go away. WRONG!!!

OK, geniuses, if war is not the answer, please provide an option to it, because there is a lunatic in Iraq with some nasty sh!t that is crazy enough to use it. So if you have a better answer on how to deal with him, I would love to hear it instead of your b!tching on how bad someone's action against it.

ok ill agree that War is the answer sometimes. but this middleast this DOSENT concern us. mainily speaking about Isrial and palestine. its 10,000 miles away and we should just get the fuk out and mind our busness. if they want to go to war with each other fine. and to the victor go the spoils. simple

Im undecided on thsi Iraq thing havent thought about it enough yet

If the U.S. turns its back on the Israeli/Palestinian issue the Palestinians will cease to exist. People don't seem to understand that we are a restraining force on Israel.

Well said. Israel would easily wipe the gypsies out given the word.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: gump47371
OK, geniuses, if war is not the answer, please provide an option to it, because there is a lunatic in Iraq with some nasty sh!t that is crazy enough to use it. So if you have a better answer on how to deal with him, I would love to hear it instead of your b!tching on how bad someone's action against it.

The problem is that we've trapped ourselves between the proverbial rock and a hard place. Attacking is going to add more fuel to the fire and leaving them alone isnt much of a better plan. Actions have brought us to this situation and actions are the only thing that will help it. The only way that we have a shot of winning the war on terrorism is if we can defeat the ideology that is used to convince the people to take arms against the USA. I heard a very good phrase one time, "it's hard to throw a rock with a full belly". Maybe instead of shipping bombs and troops we should ship over health care workers and food.
I realise how unfeasable this is, but I don't really see any other way, short of genocide.

 

[gump47371]

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: TheEvil1

Originally posted by: gump47371

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Sometimes, violence is the only way to handle a situation. Look at Deep Space Nine. In startrek, the Federation is all about peace, but they had to fight a huge war with the dominion. Would you rather they just sat there and took it up the rear?

Good point. I don't know much about Star Trek, but everyone thinks that if we ignore the Middle East problem, it will go away. WRONG!!!

OK, geniuses, if war is not the answer, please provide an option to it, because there is a lunatic in Iraq with some nasty sh!t that is crazy enough to use it. So if you have a better answer on how to deal with him, I would love to hear it instead of your b!tching on how bad someone's action against it.

ok ill agree that War is the answer sometimes. but this middleast this DOSENT concern us. mainily speaking about Isrial and palestine. its 10,000 miles away and we should just get the fuk out and mind our busness. if they want to go to war with each other fine. and to the victor go the spoils. simple

Im undecided on thsi Iraq thing havent thought about it enough yet

If the U.S. turns its back on the Israeli/Palestinian issue the Palestinians will cease to exist. People don't seem to understand that we are a restraining force on Israel.

Im gonna get yelled at for this but.... What happened to survival of the fittiest???? palistiniens obviously being more fit " Better equpied" win and live on. yes its morbid and not morally PC but sometimes thst just the way things work

That's absurd. They aren't better equipped, they just are more nuts than the Israelis. Do you see the gypsies blowing up buildings? No, they only have themselves as weapons. That is the only advantage they have, is that they are so crazy that they will push a button and put a piece of themselves in every corner of the street.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: EngineNr9
Looking at the bigger picture, you can see that over history, one war has only paved the way for another later on. Where can it conceivably end?

Children are the direct products of the adults they are exposed to.

People, in the past, have tried to placate and work with aggressors. Case in point is Hitler, pre-WWII. Didn't work, did it? He only understood overwhelming military power.

 

[Anubis]

yea i fixed that look atmy post i got them backwards. my bad

 

[gump47371]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: gump47371
OK, geniuses, if war is not the answer, please provide an option to it, because there is a lunatic in Iraq with some nasty sh!t that is crazy enough to use it. So if you have a better answer on how to deal with him, I would love to hear it instead of your b!tching on how bad someone's action against it.

The problem is that we've trapped ourselves between the proverbial rock and a hard place. Attacking isn't going to do any good and leaving them alone isnt going to do any good. Actions have brought us to this situation and actions are the only thing that will help it. The only way that we have a shot of winning the war on terrorism is if we can defeat the ideology that is used to convince the people to take arms against the USA. I heard a very good phrase one time, "it's hard to throw a rock with a full belly". Maybe instead of shipping bombs and troops we should ship over health care workers and food.
I realise how unfeasable this is, but I don't really see any other way, short of genocide.

Um, we are doing that now. It's called "Food for Oil" plan. The only problem is that Saddam takes what food he needs for his inner circle, and then sells the rest or trades it for more weapons. He is supposed to distribute it to his country, but as long as they have enough to be strong enough to hold a gun is all he cares.

Need to update your current event knowledge.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: gump47371

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: gump47371
OK, geniuses, if war is not the answer, please provide an option to it, because there is a lunatic in Iraq with some nasty sh!t that is crazy enough to use it. So if you have a better answer on how to deal with him, I would love to hear it instead of your b!tching on how bad someone's action against it.

The problem is that we've trapped ourselves between the proverbial rock and a hard place. Attacking isn't going to do any good and leaving them alone isnt going to do any good. Actions have brought us to this situation and actions are the only thing that will help it. The only way that we have a shot of winning the war on terrorism is if we can defeat the ideology that is used to convince the people to take arms against the USA. I heard a very good phrase one time, "it's hard to throw a rock with a full belly". Maybe instead of shipping bombs and troops we should ship over health care workers and food.
I realise how unfeasable this is, but I don't really see any other way, short of genocide.

Um, we are doing that now. It's called "Food for Oil" plan. The only problem is that Saddam takes what food he needs for his inner circle, and then sells the rest or trades it for more weapons. He is supposed to distribute it to his country, but as long as they have enough to be strong enough to hold a gun is all he cares.

Need to update your current event knowledge.

I wasn't just refering to Iraq, we are hated throughout the Middle East.
So I take it you don't like my idea that winning the war on terrorism is going to be dependent on defeating their ideology

 

[Riprorin]

The reality is sometimes war is unavoidable.

Tell that to Jesus Christ.

I think He'd understand.

 

[gump47371]

Hate to tell you, but it ain't just us. Anyone that isn't Muslim is who they hate.

Off on a side road for a sec, IMHO, the reason is is that they still live in their 1600's, and they feel that if our culture invades where they live, they will have to start treating women like human beings, along with other things.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: gump47371

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: gump47371
OK, geniuses, if war is not the answer, please provide an option to it, because there is a lunatic in Iraq with some nasty sh!t that is crazy enough to use it. So if you have a better answer on how to deal with him, I would love to hear it instead of your b!tching on how bad someone's action against it.

The problem is that we've trapped ourselves between the proverbial rock and a hard place. Attacking isn't going to do any good and leaving them alone isnt going to do any good. Actions have brought us to this situation and actions are the only thing that will help it. The only way that we have a shot of winning the war on terrorism is if we can defeat the ideology that is used to convince the people to take arms against the USA. I heard a very good phrase one time, "it's hard to throw a rock with a full belly". Maybe instead of shipping bombs and troops we should ship over health care workers and food.
I realise how unfeasable this is, but I don't really see any other way, short of genocide.

Um, we are doing that now. It's called "Food for Oil" plan. The only problem is that Saddam takes what food he needs for his inner circle, and then sells the rest or trades it for more weapons. He is supposed to distribute it to his country, but as long as they have enough to be strong enough to hold a gun is all he cares.

Need to update your current event knowledge.

I wasn't just refering to Iraq, we are hated throughout the Middle East.
So I take it you don't like my idea that winning the war on terrorism is going to be dependent on defeating their ideology

The U.S. has been providing food, medical aid and money to much of the world for many years and everybody still hates us. So much for being a Good Samaritan. I believe it's time to do some ass kicking. Why should we care what people think of us when they have already made it abundantly clear that they hate us?

 

[gump47371]

Originally posted by: EngineNr9
The reality is sometimes war is unavoidable.

Tell that to Jesus Christ.

America was founded on the beliefs of Jesus Christ, and those founders defended themselves from outside threats. I don't see how your argument holds water. Jesus did not intend for us to roll over and play dead.

 

[gump47371]

The U.S. has been providing food, medical aid and money to much of the world for many years and everybody still hates us. So much for being a Good Samaritan. I believe it's time to do some ass kicking. Why should we care what people think of us when they have already made it abundantly clear that they hate us?

Correct. They hate us anyway. What are they going to do if we attack? Hate us MORE?

 

[Zugzwang152]

if you stupid "democrats" can't see that saddam hussein hates the US with a passion, and would do anything to attack its citizens, civilian or not, you need to wake up, stop hugging your stupid trees, and get with the program. ffmcobalt is absolutely right.

 

[PreDatoR]

Originally posted by: EngineNr9
The reality is sometimes war is unavoidable.

Tell that to Jesus Christ.

There always has to be some idiot to bring religion into everything... You must be Mormon...

 

[Zebo]

Dispite what you have been told, people are dumber today as a whole reguarding analytical skills and understanding politics and foreign affairs. This is why Bork was shelled and Carter was canned. Both very smart and had thier heart and mind on the ball. Sound bites sell and niether could preform.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Originally posted by: PreDatoR

Originally posted by: EngineNr9
The reality is sometimes war is unavoidable.

Tell that to Jesus Christ.

There always has to be some idiot to bring religion into everything... You must be Mormon...

Whether he is a Mormon or not, you are a moron. Why do you attack one particular religious belief? Couldn't you just as easily have called him a Christian, Catholic, Baptist or Lutheran?

 

[Zugzwang152]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy

Originally posted by: PreDatoR

Originally posted by: EngineNr9
The reality is sometimes war is unavoidable.

Tell that to Jesus Christ.

There always has to be some idiot to bring religion into everything... You must be Mormon...

Whether he is a Mormon or not, you are a moron. Why do you attack one particular religious belief? Couldn't you just as easily have called him a Christian, Catholic, Baptist or Lutheran?

ditto this isnt about religion.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: gump47371
Correct. They hate us anyway. What are they going to do if we attack? Hate us MORE?

The problem is that violence perpetuates violence. Unless somebody decides to take steps to stop the conflict, we are going to wipe ourselves out as a race, it's only a matter of time.