Soros donates $100 Million to Human Rights Watch

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nonlnear

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Hahahaha, so if i started trading in Forex, then i'm engaging in political activity? You're an idiot.
Trading in the billions, yes.
There's a difference between merely arbitrage hunting and making massive direct bets in Forex though. I would admit that trading to milk arbitrage opportunities in mispriced futures, etc. isn't really political. However that's neither here nor there because that's not the kind of forex that Soros makes his billions in.
Hey, i went from being a libertarian to liberal over the course of a few years, my mind can be changed... it's just, morons hold no sway over me.
You sure do have an insatiable need for flattery. It's kind of sad when you need it so bad you have to give it to yourself. It's rather telling when you're the only person around to tell you that you're smarter than all the morons out there.
 

theeedude

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History and experience of such programs in the past. YOU are using the term thieves.. I'm saying the parents will not use it for its intended purpose. Is that theft? I guess I'll let Soros decide that, its his money being wasted.

What is your history and experience with such programs in the past?
 

Phokus

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Trading in the billions, yes.
There's a difference between merely arbitrage hunting and making massive direct bets in Forex though. I would admit that trading to milk arbitrage opportunities in mispriced futures, etc. isn't really political. However that's neither here nor there because that's not the kind of forex that Soros makes his billions in.

Sorry, just because just one individual trades with billions, doesn't make it political. Does a large group of small investors investing in forex become political just because a lot of money is involved? You just saying it doesn't make it true.

You sure do have an insatiable need for flattery. It's kind of sad when you need it so bad you have to give it to yourself. It's rather telling when you're the only person around to tell you that you're smarter than all the morons out there.

I'm not flattering myself, i'm influenced by people who know what the fuck they're talking about. You are not one of those people.
 

nonlnear

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Sorry, just because just one individual trades with billions, doesn't make it political. Does a large group of small investors investing in forex become political just because a lot of money is involved? You just saying it doesn't make it true.
You seem to be confusing political with partisan. All the best politics are nonpartisan. Just ask a central banker.
I'm not flattering myself, i'm influenced by people who know what the fuck they're talking about. You are not one of those people.
I am greatly relieved to know that I have no influence over you. It would be rather embarrassing if I had! :eek:
 

theeedude

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I guess I read the article wrong. I thought it had said he was GOING to donate this money, not that it had happened. I guess my 'prediction' that it would turn into a cluster seems to have been accurate. I'm guessing I won't have a libel suit coming from the parents of these children any time soon.

I'm guessing I won't be getting an apology from Senseamp. Maybe those using the term 'theft' were accurate since there was U.S. taxpayer money involved.

You made a claim that $0 would go to school supplies, you have no proof of that. There are always "welfare queens in Cadillacs" stories being spread that we later find out are BS, and maybe there is some abuse, but you have no proof that ALL of the money is misspent. You need to apologize for calling all of the recipients thieves.
 

Phokus

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You seem to be confusing political with partisan. All the best politcs are nonpartisan. Just ask a central banker.

Hahahaha, your use of the word 'political' is the most innapropriate i've ever seen. You could make the argument that any transaction is 'political' the way you're using it.

I am greatly relieved to know that I have no influence over you. It would be rather embarrassing if I had! :eek:

Yeah I can't argue with you there, it really would be embarrassing ... for me.
 

nonlnear

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Hahahaha, your use of the word 'political' is the most innapropriate i've ever seen. You could make the argument that any transaction is 'political' the way you're using it.
The structure of society is political. Money is political. I'm not trying to be nebulous although I'm sure you find it to be so. It's so much easier to pretend the truth isn't so fuzzy. Black and white are much easier to deal with than a rainbow and shades of grey. When a donation to a special category of corporations is political, but manipulating a nation's currency isn't. Sometimes I wish for such simplicity, but I just can't find it anywhere. My only hope is to gouge my eyes out. At least then I wouldn't have to see all these damn colors.
 

Phokus

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The structure of society is political. Money is political. I'm not trying to be nebulous although I'm sure you find it to be so. It's so much easier to pretend the truth isn't so fuzzy. Black and white are much easier to deal with than a rainbow and shades of grey. When a donation to a special category of corporations is political, but destroying a nation's economy isn't. Sometimes I wish for such simplicity, but I just can't find it anywhere. My only hope is to gouge my eyes out. At least then I wouldn't have to see all these damn colors.

There's a huge fucking difference between doing something that MIGHT have INDIRECT political consequences and directly engaging in politics. Me buying a Japanese car could be considered 'political' by your standard.
 

nonlnear

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There's a huge fucking difference between doing something that MIGHT have INDIRECT political consequences and directly engaging in politics. Me buying a Japanese car could be considered 'political' by your standard.
You do recall I explicitly used the word billions, right? Or are you posting from Zimbabwe?
 

BoberFett

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Hey, i went from being a libertarian to liberal over the course of a few years

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Phokus

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You do recall I explicitly used the word billions, right? Or are you posting from Zimbabwe?

Hey, guess what, take the millions of Americans who have bought Japanese cars, and that probably exceeds what Soros has been dealing with. Still doesn't make it "Political".

You even explain yourself why you're an idiot: the 'political vs. partisan' post you made. Clearly Soros' and Koch's partisan donations are far different than Soros' business dealings, which, at best, is INDIRECTLY political.
 

nonlnear

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Hey, guess what, take the millions of Americans who have bought Japanese cars, and that probably exceeds what Soros has been dealing with. Still doesn't make it "Political".
One person buying millions of cars would be political. So what was your point about the cars?
You even explain yourself why you're an idiot: the 'political vs. partisan' post you made. Clearly Soros' and Koch's partisan donations are far different than Soros' business dealings, which, at best, is INDIRECTLY political.
Care to define political then, so as to dispel my idiocy?
 

Phokus

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One person buying millions of cars would be political. So what was your point about the cars?
Care to define political then, so as to dispel my idiocy?

Your idiodicy is that you were equivocating donating to political causes with doing business transactions that might have indirect political consequences. That's why you're dumb.
 

BoberFett

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Your idiodicy is that you were equivocating donating to political causes with doing business transactions that might have indirect political consequences. That's why you're dumb.

So if business transactions that might have political consequences are OK in your book, then I guess it's fine if everyone keeps buying those products made by Koch owned companies.

Right?
 

Phokus

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So if business transactions that might have political consequences are OK in your book, then I guess it's fine if everyone keeps buying those products made by Koch owned companies.

Right?

Not when they DIRECTLY pollute the earth and intentionally steal oil from people. And then try to vote in assholes who will overlook that shit. Nice try (just kidding).
 

nonlnear

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Your idiodicy is that you were equivocating donating to political causes with doing business transactions that might have indirect political consequences. That's why you're dumb.
Actually I made no use of the term "might". That's your sloppy language. George Soros' Forex movements are made with the full knowledge that they WILL have political consequences. In fact, it is the presence of those political consequences that makes them profitable. Those are the "known weaknesses in the international financial system" that he exploits.
 

Kirby

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What's this thread about? Ego masturbation over the fact that someone you identify with donated some money? Is that supposed to persuade someone else to convert to your ideologies?

Whoopty-fucking-doo. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates have donated more and I like cheeseburgers too!

Me, Bill, and Warren > vegetarians
 

Phokus

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Actually I made no use of the term "might". That's your sloppy language. George Soros' Forex movements are made with the full knowledge that they WILL have political consequences. In fact, it is the presence of those political consequences that makes them profitable. Those are the "known weaknesses in the international financial system" that he exploits.

Oh REALLY, care to show where he's crashed economies recently with his forex trades? So it's a GUARANTEE that every time he makes a trade, it'll have negative consequences?
 

Phokus

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It amusing to watch double standards unfold. Keep up the good work Jokus.

It's amusing you can't see the difference between intentionally stealing oil and intentionally polluting the earth with someone make a forex transaction. You're retarded.
 

nonlnear

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Oh REALLY, care to show where he's crashed economies recently with his forex trades? So it's a GUARANTEE that every time he makes a trade, it'll have negative consequences?
I never said he trades with an intention of crashing economies. He knows that there are institutional agents in the currency market who will pour money in to push currencies in directions that the market wouldn't naturally go. These are generally central banks trying to slow currency movements in order to protect domestic markets from sudden price shocks, but it can be for a variety of reasons. Betting for or against these forces (as appropriate) can be very profitable.
 

Phokus

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I never said he trades with an intention of crashing economies. He knows that there are institutional agents in the currency market who will pour money in to push currencies in directions that the market wouldn't naturally go. These are generally central banks trying to slow currency movements in order to protect domestic markets from sudden price shocks, but it can be for a variety of reasons. Betting for or against these forces (as appropriate) can be very profitable.

Actually I made no use of the term "might". That's your sloppy language. George Soros' Forex movements are made with the full knowledge that they WILL have political consequences. In fact, it is the presence of those political consequences that makes them profitable. Those are the "known weaknesses in the international financial system" that he exploits.

You didn't answer the question, you made an absolute. I want proof of this. How often has Soros made a trade that had these consequences? Sounds like he should be crashing everything every time he hits the 'submit' button.