Soros donates $100 Million to Human Rights Watch

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Hayabusa Rider

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Wow... Just wow...

Your thread backfired, Phokus. Deal with it. Stop being a whiny little brainwashed bitch and deal with it.

Heh, even better was the woman with 8 kids who was being congratulated for having so many. $1600. Some of the other women said there were going to have more kids so they could get a bigger welfare check and if we had this again in 2010 then they could get more stuff.

Awesome.

Our kind hearted Gov. who couldn't find his ass with both hands heard about all this (which was on all the news station and reported by the biggest businesses) and called it "anecdotal".

The only good thing in this was it became the last nail in Paterson's coffin with the voters.
 

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What a cluster fuck that was. He didn't give $200 for each kid. His money AND the Fed pork did.

Oh, but that got these poor school kids (which qualified everyone with a pre-schooler as well) supplies? Fuck no.

What we found out (this was from 2009, not 2010- it's all over) is that Soros insisted there be no stipulations on how the money was spent. It did not have to go for school supplies or anything else. You just got fast cash. All well and good eh?

Nope. Because of how the grant was written the Fed dollars had to be distributed with the same strings as in none.

So no problem. People would take it and spend it on these kids, right?

Nope.

On the day the checks came out ATMs ran out of cash, liquor and smokes flew off the shelf- HDTVs were sold out along with IPods, PS3s and other gaming consoles.

Guess what was left virtually untouched? School supplies and clothing.

Thanks George, you cost the US taxpayers $175 million out of your stupidity.

Great work.

I guess I read the article wrong. I thought it had said he was GOING to donate this money, not that it had happened. I guess my 'prediction' that it would turn into a cluster seems to have been accurate. I'm guessing I won't have a libel suit coming from the parents of these children any time soon.

I'm guessing I won't be getting an apology from Senseamp. Maybe those using the term 'theft' were accurate since there was U.S. taxpayer money involved.
 

Amused

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Deal with what? That you're a dishonest piece of shit? No, i can deal with that pretty easily, that's your MO.

You trying to equate Soros giving to HRW, which, btw, conservatives bitch about, especially in relation to their stance on US torture and Israel, and Koch giving to arts is laughable.

It's absolutely shameless that you would make such an equivocation when you know damn well Koch's decision to be public or private with his contributions is a matter of self serving interests.

Um, wow. And you call me dishonest?

The Koch's have given to Cancer, the Arts and education. Many, MANY times the amounts that Sorors has donated. And rather than giving to a political body (HRW) and calling it Charity, the Koch's gave their money to actual charities that produce real results.

Your thread backfires, Phokus, and instead of saying, "wow, I didn't know the Koch Family Charities were so generous" you keep foaming at the mouth like some brainwashed fundie who just heard the Bible wasn't fact.

And when it comes to political donations, the Koch's are no more self serving than Soros. Both Soros and the Koch's gave to causes and groups they believe in. The ONLY difference is you don't AGREE with the Koch's, therefore their donations are "evil" and Soros' is good. BULLSHIT. They're the SAME you brainwashed twit.
 

Phokus

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Um, wow. And you call me dishonest?

The Koch's have given to Cancer, the Arts and education. Many, MANY times the amounts that Sorors has donated. And rather than giving to a political body (HRW) and calling it Charity, the Koch's gave their money to actual charities that produce real results.

Your thread backfires, Phokus, and instead of saying, "wow, I didn't know the Koch Family Charities were so generous" you keep foaming at the mouth like some brainwashed fundie who just heard the Bible wasn't fact.

And when it comes to political donations, the Koch's are no more self serving than Soros. Both Soros and the Koch's gave to causes and groups they believe in. The ONLY difference is you don't AGREE with the Koch's, therefore their donations are "evil" and Soros' is good. BULLSHIT. They're the SAME you brainwashed twit.

1) oh, the Koches have given many many times what Soros has? Source? I'm holding you to this, because Soros has given a SHITLOAD of money to charitable causes:

Soros has been active as a philanthropist since the 1970s, when he began providing funds to help black students attend the University of Cape Town in apartheid South Africa, and began funding dissident movements behind the iron curtain.

Soros' philanthropic funding includes efforts to promote non-violent democratization in the post-Soviet states. These efforts, mostly in Central and Eastern Europe, occur primarily through the Open Society Institute (OSI) and national Soros Foundations, which sometimes go under other names (such as the Stefan Batory Foundation in Poland). As of 2003, PBS estimated that he had given away a total of $4 billion.[28] The OSI says it has spent about $400 million annually in recent years.

Time magazine in 2007 cited two specific projects - $100 million toward Internet infrastructure for regional Russian universities; and $50 million for the Millennium Promise to eradicate extreme poverty in Africa — while noting that Soros has given $742 million to projects in the U.S., and given away a total of more than $6 billion.[33]

Other notable projects have included aid to scientists and universities throughout Central and Eastern Europe, help to civilians during the siege of Sarajevo, and Transparency International. Soros also pledged an endowment of €420 million to the Central European University (CEU). The Nobel Peace Prize winner Muhammad Yunus and his microfinance bank Grameen Bank received support from the OSI.

In September 2006 Soros pledged $50 million to the Millennium Promise, led by economist Jeffrey Sachs to provide educational, agricultural, and medical aid to help villages in Africa enduring poverty. The New York Times termed this endeavor a "departure" for Soros whose philanthropic focus had been on fostering democracy and good government, but Soros noted that most poverty resulted from bad governance.[35]

I don't know who said HRW was a charity, but that further proves my point, Soros isn't afraid to broadcast who he supports.

I'm foaming over the fact that the Koch's DON'T publicly talk about all their donations, Soros does.

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Here's your reply Amused, if that's all they've donated, then it's **AMUSED BACKFIRE**

http://www.kochfamilyfoundations.org/FoundationsDHK.asp

Over 200 million to research for Cancer.

Tens of millions to education.

100 million to the arts alone.

And that's just one of four of the Koch Family charitible Orgs...

Shall I go on???

There are three other charitiable orgs by the Koch family that have donated hundreds of millions.

In terms of charitable giving, the Koch family blows Soros out of the water.

Thread backfire...


And to paint the Koch's as "stealthily donate to causes intended to destroy America" only serves to show your bias. The Koch's donate and serve on policy boards that are very much above ground and serve to SAVE what THEY think America stands for. They proudly put their name on their projects. Can't say the same for Soros.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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What's fascinating is how people boast or bitch about what other people give. "Well my rich guy gave X"

Who gives a shit? Just what did YOU do for someone else. If it's little or nothing, then STFU.
 

BoberFett

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So Boberfett, have you stopped beating your wife, or is that still going on?

I've stopped beating my wife. I just wish you had the kind of strength of character I do so you would stop raping children. :'(
 

Phokus

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I've stopped beating my wife. I just wish you had the kind of strength of character I do so you would stop raping children. :'(

Not enough strength of character to not libel Soros though. It's a shame i have to use your own disgusting attacks to show what a libelous bastard you are.
 
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Phokus

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What's fascinating is how people boast or bitch about what other people give. "Well my rich guy gave X"

Who gives a shit? Just what did YOU do for someone else. If it's little or nothing, then STFU.

Normally i wouldn't give a shit, but apparently Amused thinks the Kochs 'blow' Soros out of the water in terms of giving. His assertion, not mine.
 

Amused

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1) oh, the Koches have given many many times what Soros has? Source? I'm holding you to this, because Soros has given a SHITLOAD of money to charitable causes:



I don't know who said HRW was a charity, but that further proves my point, Soros isn't afraid to broadcast who he supports.

I'm foaming over the fact that the Koch's DON'T publicly talk about all their donations, Soros does.

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Here's your reply Amused, if that's all they've donated, then it's **AMUSED BACKFIRE**

I apologize. I meant in comprison to wealth. The Koch Family is worth about 4 billion, just a fraction of Soro's worth. They have donated an average of 10 million a year for the last decade if sourcewatch is correct, with an additional 200 million to Cancer and hundreds of millions to the arts and education.

The Koch's ARE as public as legally required with their donations. They are, however, more private than Soros and tend to not like the public eye. That's not "evil" Phokus. Just because you don't blow your own horn when donating does not make it "evil." In fact, I find it kinda admirable. They give without bragging about it. It's actually kinda hard to find info on even their most charitable gifts.

At any rate your thread backfired still the same.
 

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Yes, i have no rebuttal for what amounts to words from a retard, you are very correct on this point.
You probably have trouble perceiving any person as more than a retard, much as I have no idea who is a true oenophile and who is just a pretentious ass with a lot of money to spend on wine. My ignorance of wine makes it very hard for me to tell the difference...
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Normally i wouldn't give a shit, but apparently Amused thinks the Kochs 'blow' Soros out of the water in terms of giving. His assertion, not mine.


I really don't care about any of these people except Soros when he screwed us over.

NY then screwed the pooch when they decided to go after the "rich" like Tom Golisano, another philanthropist. That worked really well, because he changed his state of residency. Fortunately he didn't stop donating to Western NY who has been so screwed by the incompetent we have here.

While it's a separate topic, it's sheer idiocy to go after people who can simply change residency to a lower tax state, killing the golden goose. That leaves the middle class here screwed even more.

What a bunch of dopes.
 
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Self-justification is deeply ingrained in each of us.

"The saddest lies are the ones we tell ourselves." - Lucille Clifton
 

Phokus

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I apologize. I meant in comprison to wealth. The Koch Family is worth about 4 billion, just a fraction of Soro's worth. They have donated an average of 10 million a year for the last decade if sourcewatch is correct, with an additional 200 million to Cancer and hundreds of millions to the arts and education.

The Koch's ARE as public as legally required with their donations. They are, however, more private than Soros and tend to not like the public eye. That's not "evil" Phokus. Just because you don't blow your own horn when donating does not make it "evil." In fact, I find it kinda admirable. They give without bragging about it. It's actually kinda hard to find info on even their most charitable gifts.

At any rate

Yeah, i'm sure that's what you meant. *cough*.

And i'm not even sure that's 100% true:

Net worth ▲ $14.0 billion (Forbes)[1]

If you add up the philanthropic donations that soros gave in the copy/paste i put in, that's maybe 11 or 12 BILLION he donated, and that probably isn't all that he's donated, just the ones that are sourced

There's nothing admirable about publicly boasting your charitable donations while keeping silent about your political contributions. Nobody 'boasts' about political contributions like they do charitable contributions, and you know that.
 

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Yeah, i'm sure that's what you meant. *cough*.

And i'm not even sure that's 100% true:

Net worth ▲ $14.0 billion (Forbes)[1]

If you add up the philanthropic donations that soros gave in the copy/paste i put in, that's maybe 11 or 12 BILLION he donated, and that probably isn't all that he's donated.

There's nothing admirable about publicly boasting your charitable donations while keeping silent about your political contributions. Nobody 'boasts' about political contributions like they do charitable contributions, and you know that.

You do know that currency speculation on the billion dollar scale IS political activity, right? Or do you not count that?
 

Phokus

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You do know that currency speculation on the billion dollar scale IS political activity, right? Or do you not count that?

What does your reply have to do with what i wrote? Oh right, more non sequitur retardation from you.
 

nonlnear

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What does your reply have to do with what i wrote? Oh right, more non sequitur retardation from you.
Non sequitur. You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think that it means. (But kudos on finally spelling it correctly!)

Reread the post of yours that I quoted there. You were comparing the charitable versus political activities of the Kochs and Soros. I was just giving you a little bit broader perspective.
 

Phokus

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Non sequitur. You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think that it means. (But kudos on finally spelling it correctly!)

Reread the post of yours that I quoted there. You were comparing the charitable versus political activities of the Kochs and Soros. I was just giving you a little bit broader perspective.

1) Making money off currency isn't 'political'.

2) It doesn't have anything to do with charitable/political contributions

3) You're still a moron
 

nonlnear

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1) Making money off currency isn't 'political'.
You clearly don't have a shred of a clue about money then...
2) It doesn't have anything to do with charitable/political contributions
Yes, a very convenient ploy by you to demonize one self serving tycoon's political activities while turning a blind eye to another's.
3) You're still a moron
I am absolutely confident that there is no way I or anyone could change your mind on that matter. In fact I am quite sure you hold many more opinions that even you are incapable of changing.
 

Phokus

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You clearly don't have a shred of a clue about money then...

Hahahaha, so if i started trading in Forex, then i'm engaging in political activity? You're an idiot.

Yes, a very convenient ploy by you to demonize one self serving tycoon's political activities while turning a blind eye to another's.

See above

I am absolutely confident that there is no way I or anyone could change your mind on that matter. In fact I am quite sure you hold many more opinions that even you are incapable of changing.

Hey, i went from being a libertarian to liberal over the course of a few years, my mind can be changed... it's just, morons hold no sway over me.
 

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Non sequitur. You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think that it means. (But kudos on finally spelling it correctly!)

Reread the post of yours that I quoted there. You were comparing the charitable versus political activities of the Kochs and Soros. I was just giving you a little bit broader perspective.

He doesn't care about broader perspectives, it's only liberal good, conservative bad.