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Sore MJ hints at retirement after loss

The NBA is still around?... Who knew?

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Truth is the league hasn't been interesting since they let it become all attitude and no professionalism. I tuned in to see the dunk contest this year despite the lack of names. I turned it off after hearing an announcer (Kenny Smith) yell "That dunk had the flu! That dunk was sick!" I realize it was only the dunk contest, but it was just completely over the top and something so dumb it makes you embarrassed to be watching.

An NBA game doesn't appear to be a serious contest anymore and the players don't treat the game like it has any weight. If they don't appear to care about the game, then why should I?

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CK

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<< you shouldn't have come back anyway. >>



That is as true as it gets. I lost interest in ALL "professional" (notice the quotes?) sports many years ago. Players are no longer "regular Joes" that'll sit down on the sidewalk with the kids and sign baseballs or tshirts. YOu have to schedule an appt w/their agent, ensure CNN is there and a limo provided before they'll speak w/you about last nights' game. What BS.

I refuse to pay for a professional sporting event ticket. I will not help fund their overinflated, egotistical, non-performance-based salaries.

If I get comp tickets or someone has an extra ticket and asks me to go, I'll go, but that's it.
 


<< Retirement...AGAIN!!?? Come on Mike, I love ya and all, but you shouldn't have come back anyway. >>




It is funny how the writer makes it sound like Mike is retiring tomorrow.......They are just doing that to sell the story......If you look at his actual comments, he said:

"This is a sign, obviously, that things are coming to a closure in terms of where my career could be heading"


Notice the word "could" and it is obvious he is career is coming to a close. He's 39....The media makes a big deal out of everything.


 


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<< you shouldn't have come back anyway. >>



That is as true as it gets. I lost interest in ALL "professional" (notice the quotes?) sports many years ago. Players are no longer "regular Joes" that'll sit down on the sidewalk with the kids and sign baseballs or tshirts. YOu have to schedule an appt w/their agent, ensure CNN is there and a limo provided before they'll speak w/you about last nights' game. What BS.

I refuse to pay for a professional sporting event ticket. I will not help fund their overinflated, egotistical, non-performance-based salaries.

If I get comp tickets or someone has an extra ticket and asks me to go, I'll go, but that's it. >>



Guess you've never went to a hockey game then, eh? Every Canadian hockey player I know(good friends with a couple from around here) will do exactly that, do "normal" things a regular joe would do. They're the most underpaid sports professionals today relative to the other sports, and many of them don't give a damn. Sports like basketball, kids grow up in the 'hood thinking if they can just make the NBA, all their money problems will be solved and they'll be "pimpin large". Hockey players want to make it to the NHL so their family can enjoy watching them play, and so they can feel the exact feeling the Canadian team felt last night.
I suggest you watch more hockey, and less "American" sports like football and basketball. 🙂
 


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<< you shouldn't have come back anyway. >>



That is as true as it gets. I lost interest in ALL "professional" (notice the quotes?) sports many years ago. Players are no longer "regular Joes" that'll sit down on the sidewalk with the kids and sign baseballs or tshirts. YOu have to schedule an appt w/their agent, ensure CNN is there and a limo provided before they'll speak w/you about last nights' game. What BS.

I refuse to pay for a professional sporting event ticket. I will not help fund their overinflated, egotistical, non-performance-based salaries.

If I get comp tickets or someone has an extra ticket and asks me to go, I'll go, but that's it. >>



Guess you've never went to a hockey game then, eh? Every Canadian hockey player I know(good friends with a couple from around here) will do exactly that, do "normal" things a regular joe would do. They're the most underpaid sports professionals today relative to the other sports, and many of them don't give a damn. Sports like basketball, kids grow up in the 'hood thinking if they can just make the NBA, all their money problems will be solved and they'll be "pimpin large". Hockey players want to make it to the NHL so their family can enjoy watching them play, and so they can feel the exact feeling the Canadian team felt last night.
I suggest you watch more hockey, and less "American" sports like football and basketball. 🙂 >>


Screw hockey!! I can't fuggin stand to watch these guys hit a little puck around the ice that you can barely see. It just looks so random when you're watching it as they just scramble back and forth to score 2-3 points in a given game.

Give me college basketball or F1 racing anyday. Next to hockey, I'd rather watch grass grow or get a root canal.
 


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Screw hockey!! I can't fuggin stand to watch these guys hit a little puck around the ice that you can barely see. It just looks so random when you're watching it as they just scramble back and forth to score 2-3 points in a given game.

Give me college basketball or F1 racing anyday. Next to hockey, I'd rather watch grass grow or get a root canal. >>



It's not a particularily good sport to watch on television, I agree, sometimes the camera work can be pretty confusing for non-active hockey watchers, too bad you guys didn't see the CBC coverage of the game(or did you?).
You wanna talk about "random", man you should watch Aussie rules football!! 🙂 That game is so screwy, it'll be another 15 years before I even understand what they're trying to do!
Different cultures like different sports I guess. Up here, it's an unwritten rule that every Canadian male MUST know how to skate by the time they're 5 years old, and should play on an organized team before the age of 16.
 


<< Next to hockey, I'd rather watch grass grow or get a root canal. >>


I once got a root canal without even knowing it, seriously :Q

I had a little discomfort when he pulled the roots out, but my tooth hurt soooooo bad that I knew something had to be done. I asked the doctor what the heck he just did and he said "Oh, a root canal."
I was like WTF, tell me next time!

Oh, and I like ice hockey.
 
Hockey never really caught on w/me. Just never got into it. I mean, it's OK, but I don't know all the rules and don't know ANY players...so it's kind of pointless for me to watch it.

If I can get together with a bunch of guys, I'll watch a football game. It's fun to hoot and holler and argue over a refs' call. 🙂 It's a "guy thing." Plus, being that I followed football pretty closely, I know all the rules, so the game makes sense to me.

Years ago (mid 80's) I was big into football. I could tell you all the players on the Jets and the Giants. I knew what the points spreads for most of the games were (don't ask) etc, etc.

I got sick of professional athletes' attitudes. The baseball strike a few years ago totally sealed it shut for me. I work two jobs so I can eat food, and some guy that makes $25,000 A GAME is bitching he's underpaid.

Plus, seeing the way the media caters to these overgrown, overblown-ego adolescent jocks irritates the crap out me.

Some scientist discovers a way to recharge batteries using snot and recycled paper, saving the environment and millions of dollars: he gets a tiny article on page 43, at the bottom. Maybe.

Michael Jordan wipes his @ss with Charmin instead of Angel Soft and he's on the front page, holding up the new Charmin "Squishy Soft Brand" and getting paid for it. It's just wrong.
 


<< so they can feel the exact feeling the Canadian team felt last night. >>



The problem with the Canadian's victory yesterday was that 90% of those guys eat in the US, sleep in the US, buy US products (including American Hockey teams) and breathe US Air. They are all Americans in everything but place of birth. The entire Olympic Hockey this year was nothing more than a glorified NHL All-Star tournament. I prefer International play with the Amateurs who are actually living in their country and playing for pride.

The US vs. Russia game was a prime example, as it has been pointed out before, those players all know each other and it doesn't have anywhere near the same feel as before '98 due to the simple fact that back then, you would only play those guys very rarely and it had a 'special' feel to it. The players playing yesterday compete with one another 8 months out of the year.

CK
 


<< The baseball strike a few years ago totally sealed it shut for me. >>



I think that strike affected a lot of people.

I used to collect baseball cards and was into baseball quite a bit. I could probably tell you every player who's card was worth more than $.10.
Once that strike happened I backed away from baseball almost entirely. After the strike ended I just never got back into the swing of things (so to speak) and haven't liked baseball as much since.
Though it probably doesn't help that I live in Minnesota and every off-season you hear that your time is going to be taken away if they don't get a new stadium. :disgust:
 
I love MJ, but unfortunately it was his OVERWHELMING dominance in his prime that started to lead the game down the path its currently on today. Once it was proven that one man COULD single-handedly win a game (and NBA championships) the focus shifted more and more to the individual rather than the team. I know a lot of people will say otherwise and bark about Pippen and company, but at the end of the day it was all about Michael's ability to take over a game virtually at will. Now everybody's trying to emulate that model since the Bulls had so much success with it.

I personally think the NBA hit its peak in the 80s (maybe even some in the early 90s) when you had TEAMS like the Celtics, Lakers, Sixers, Pistons, etc., contending for the title every year. Sure, those teams had superstars but they also actually ran half-court offenses. They didn't just clear out one side for a one-on-one matchup like most teams do today. They also didn't rely as much on fast-break offenses and quick cuts to the hole for a dunk. How often do you see a pull up jumpshot these days instead of some guy driving hard to the hole looking for some spectacular dunk? The points count just the same. But most guys today can't shoot worth a flip because all they know is layups and dunks. Granted, the individuals on the court today are so much more athletically talented than those out there 15 years ago that they could absolutely DESTROY them one on one. But it's just so boring watching a game of egos and ball hogs.

I hope MJ finally retires again at the end of this year. I loved watching him play, but the game today just isn't the same anymore.
 


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<< so they can feel the exact feeling the Canadian team felt last night. >>



The problem with the Canadian's victory yesterday was that 90% of those guys eat in the US, sleep in the US, buy US products (including American Hockey teams) and breathe US Air. They are all Americans in everything but place of birth. The entire Olympic Hockey this year was nothing more than a glorified NHL All-Star tournament. I prefer International play with the Amateurs who are actually living in their country and playing for pride.

The US vs. Russia game was a prime example, as it has been pointed out before, those players all know each other and it doesn't have anywhere near the same feel as before '98 due to the simple fact that back then, you would only play those guys very rarely and it had a 'special' feel to it. The players playing yesterday compete with one another 8 months out of the year.

CK >>



I agree with you. 40% of the German team was born in Canada, and at least a quarter of the American team was as well, which makes country loyalties seem almost hipocritical in the Olympics. I was just talking of the joy and proudness they feel when, say, Ryan Smyth for the Oilers will win the Stanley Cup this year. 🙂 That's the feeling Canadian boys play for, having their friends from their hometown see them play and win against....well...the world really(as that is what the NHL is now).
 


<< The points count just the same. But most guys today can't shoot worth a flip because all they know is layups and dunks. >>



So incredibly true... I remember watching a few of those ESPN classic games from mid-70s and it was just amazing to see the passing and jump-shooting accuracy. Could do without the short shorts, though 😛

Also, an excellent point about the Michael-led Bulls being the start of a bad trend. Never really thought about that being a factor in the destruction of the team-based basketball game as we know it.

College basketball has just been massacred by the influx of 1 and 2 year talent into the NBA. I can't blame them, but it flat out ruins the college game.

CK
 


<< I agree with you. 40% of the German team was born in Canada, and at least a quarter of the American team was as well, which makes country loyalties seem almost hipocritical in the Olympics. I was just talking of the joy and proudness they feel when, say, Ryan Smyth for the Oilers will win the Stanley Cup this year. That's the feeling Canadian boys play for, having their friends from their hometown see them play and win against....well...the world really(as that is what the NHL is now). >>



I completely agree, the next time a Canadian team wins the Stanley Cup, especially in these times when salaries have started to climb like in most pro sports, the whole country will party hard.

Unfortunately, it seems that more and more lately that Canadian teams are being considered 'small market' and who knows how long before money factors in strongly enough that we see more examples like the Colorado and Phoenix moves.

CK
 
Damn. I was hoping he'd be able to last all year, and hopefully win the MVP.

And for all you people who have lost respect for athletes' "professionalism..." give me a break. It's about entertainment. That's all sports is, and I'm fine with it. Except baseball, which is boring as hell - I could care less if they strike for the next 80 years.
 
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