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"There was another ending, Matt "We're going to win this thing" Servitto told reporters. The last he knew, the scene in Holsten's diner ? which was shot in the real life Holsten?s out in Bloomfield, New Jersey ? went on a little longer and featured one of the menacing figures in the diner dominating the camera. "The scene cut as the guy was advancing towards him, as if he was about to shoot Tony. It was, I think, less ambiguous that Tony was going to get shot."
 
Originally posted by: FiddleDD
Originally posted by: dr150
If anyone remembers back this season when Tony and Bobby where on the boat and and he asks "what do you think happens when you die?" and Tony replies, "nothing, it just goes black."

Tony is dead.
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Very smart
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Also, what is Phil's nephew, Nikki Leotardo (who's a NYC resident btw & obviously gets a lot of face time in this scene) doing in an obscure New Jersey diner at the same time Tony is eating?

....Then....in a great homage to "The Godfather" he goes into the bathroom for the revenge kill of his beloved Phil.

FADE TO BLACK.

TONY is DEAD.

It's fairly ovious that Chase wanted viewers to piece together the ending by paying attention to the details and characters of previous episodes.

The ending writes itself by piecing together the puzzle on your own. It seems like an open-ended closing, but on second glance, it's a close-ended finale.

What's left unsaid is actually said......Clever!

 
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
the whole Nikki Leotardo thing is bogus. already been debunked on other sites.
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LOL. Nope. Actually there's a consenus on other fan sites that it IS Nikki.


The guy at the bar, who went to the bathroom, is credited as NIKKI LEOTARDO. He was at a brief sit down about Vito in Season 6.

The "Trucker" was the brother of the guy robbed by Christopher in Season 2...the DVD players. He had to identify his brother's body.

The Boy Scouts were in the train store, and the "Brotha's" who walked in were the one's who tried to clip Tony in Season 2 or 3, but only clipped him in the ear.

With that many people who had reason to kill Tony, plus the sudden black, it's clear Tony's dead.


Congrats to Mr. Chase on a fine show!
 
Originally posted by: dr150
the "Brotha's" who walked in were the one's who tried to clip Tony in Season 2 or 3, but only clipped him in the ear
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Yeah but at least one of them is dead, so how could it be?
 
Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
the whole Nikki Leotardo thing is bogus. already been debunked on other sites.
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LOL. Nope. Actually there's a consenus on other fan sites that it IS Nikki.


The guy at the bar, who went to the bathroom, is credited as NIKKI LEOTARDO. He was at a brief sit down about Vito in Season 6.

The "Trucker" was the brother of the guy robbed by Christopher in Season 2...the DVD players. He had to identify his brother's body.

The Boy Scouts were in the train store, and the "Brotha's" who walked in were the one's who tried to clip Tony in Season 2 or 3, but only clipped him in the ear.

With that many people who had reason to kill Tony, plus the sudden black, it's clear Tony's dead.


Congrats to Mr. Chase on a fine show!
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There's no consensus, it's just a bunch of people copying/pasting the exact same original post over and over again. Just like you did right there.
 
Well, David Chase is getting exactly what he wanted either way.

He has everyone anzlyzing the episode while at the water cooler.

Mission accomplished.

You take away what you want to take away from the episode.
 
Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
the whole Nikki Leotardo thing is bogus. already been debunked on other sites.
Click to expand...

LOL. Nope. Actually there's a consenus on other fan sites that it IS Nikki.


The guy at the bar, who went to the bathroom, is credited as NIKKI LEOTARDO. He was at a brief sit down about Vito in Season 6.

The "Trucker" was the brother of the guy robbed by Christopher in Season 2...the DVD players. He had to identify his brother's body.

The Boy Scouts were in the train store, and the "Brotha's" who walked in were the one's who tried to clip Tony in Season 2 or 3, but only clipped him in the ear.

With that many people who had reason to kill Tony, plus the sudden black, it's clear Tony's dead.


Congrats to Mr. Chase on a fine show!
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I thought he was credited as "Guy in Members Only Jacket".
 
Originally posted by: Chris
Nikki Leotardo rumor debunked:

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-...-06092007-1360360.html

Colandrea, 47, describes his role as simply ?mystery man,? a guy who walks into a diner and locks eyes ominously with Tony, who's sitting at a table with wife, Carmela, and son, A.J. Colandrea sits down at the counter, stares at Tony again, gets up to go the bathroom, and ...
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I don't know who the guy was but you can't base anything off what the (first-time) actor reports. He very well could be a relative of the Pope sent from the Vatican to assassinate Tony in a vicious plot as a result of Tony not donating to the church in a long time and the actor could have been kept in the dark about. If you were David Chase <shudder>, would you tell some no name guy that you're the man who kills Tony Soprano if the scene is never actually filmed? I would think you would keep that on a need to know basis and the actor wouldn't need to know.
 
Along with other people, I had thought something had broken with my setup - be it tv or cable box or whatnot.

I felt kinda let down although they did a great job of giving the viewer the impression that something bad was about to happen. If those characters were from minor plot lines in other episodes - its hard for me to understand. How is someone supposed to remember someone from one episode in season 3 or whatever it was and be able to tie it into the finale.

But it is what it is - and it was still a great series
 
Originally posted by: Raiden256
Pretty sure the whole conversation where he was talking to Bobby a while back and one of them said "They say you never hear the one that kills you." was foreshadowing here.

Also, did I miss the part where Pauli got whacked?
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No Pauli didn't get whacked, they killed Bobby & Sil was in a coma & not expected to wakeup.

Also that ending was just pathetic.
 
Originally posted by: dr150
Originally posted by: FiddleDD
Originally posted by: dr150
If anyone remembers back this season when Tony and Bobby where on the boat and and he asks "what do you think happens when you die?" and Tony replies, "nothing, it just goes black."

Tony is dead.
Click to expand...

Very smart
Click to expand...


Also, what is Phil's nephew, Nikki Leotardo (who's a NYC resident btw & obviously gets a lot of face time in this scene) doing in an obscure New Jersey diner at the same time Tony is eating?

....Then....in a great homage to "The Godfather" he goes into the bathroom for the revenge kill of his beloved Phil.

FADE TO BLACK.

TONY is DEAD.

It's fairly ovious that Chase wanted viewers to piece together the ending by paying attention to the details and characters of previous episodes.

The ending writes itself by piecing together the puzzle on your own. It seems like an open-ended closing, but on second glance, it's a close-ended finale.

What's left unsaid is actually said......Clever!
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I disagree. I don't think Tony's dead. I think the audience got whacked. It went to black for us, not Tony. Since the Soprano's will continue to live their lives, the only way for Chase to end the series was to whack the viewers, which is why it went to black so suddenly that people actually thought it was the cable box. Even the closing credits were silent.
 
i wonder how many people called their cable companies thinking their box got whacked the last few moments
 
Originally posted by: dr150

With that many people who had reason to kill Tony, plus the sudden black, it's clear Tony's dead.


Congrats to Mr. Chase on a fine show!
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I think it's pretty arrogant of you to say it's "clear" that something happened in an intentionally ambiguous ending.
 
I liked the ending. There really will be no ending to the crises in the family and the risk Tony is always and will always be under.
 
Paolo Colandrea, a 47-year-old owner of a pizza joint in Penndel, Pa., played the mysterious man wearing a Member's Only jacket sitting at the bar. He was shown going to the bathroom -- a way station of assassination to fans of "The Godfather."

When a relative of Colandrea's picked up the phone at his pizza shop, he exclaimed: "You're trying to get in touch with him? Everyone's trying to get in touch with him!"

But if Colandrea's character was there to kill Tony Soprano, the actor who played him isn't saying.

"I do have an idea, but I cannot really talk," Colandrea said Monday. "I have papers signed that I can't make any comments on that."

Colandrea, who was born in Naples, auditioned for the role after a casting agent stopped for a bite at his shop. He claims to know definitely his character's intent and what happens following the episode's conclusion, but won't divulge it. (A bit of trivia: Colandrea's character wears a Member's Only jacket; the first episode of the final season was titled "Member's Only.")

http://www.calendarlive.com/tv...ry?coll=cl-tv-features
 
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