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z1ggy

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I'd vote Musk 2020 for sure, unless he wants/says some real crazy shit.
 

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If being an entertainer is now a prerequisite for the position we could do worse.

It's not even so much about being an entertainer as much as is it is being able to connect, which entertainers naturally do well. Reagan made the leap from actor to Governor. Then president. Stewart has been involved in political commentary for 15+ years. It's not a replacement for actual experience, but it's certainly more than Trump.
 

NTMBK

Lifer
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Boris Johnson. He was born in New York, is still a US citizen, and has the hair to rival Trump.

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K1052

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It's not even so much about being an entertainer as much as is it is being able to connect, which entertainers naturally do well. Reagan made the leap from actor to Governor. Then president. Stewart has been involved in political commentary for 15+ years. It's not a replacement for actual experience, but it's certainly more than Trump.

I was being somewhat tounge-in-cheek. I don't think that such a thing is anything close to an impossibility.
 

Ken g6

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What about John Hickenlooper? Two-term Democratic Governor of Colorado. Before that he was a small business (restaurant) owner. He was also chairman of the National Governors Association, from 2014-2015.

Hillary reportedly considered him for VP, but he turned her down. He's term-limited and he'll be out of office in 2018, just in time to run for President.

Musk isn't eligible due to being born on Mars.
Close. Musk isn't eligible due to being born in South Africa.
 

DrunkenSano

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Not only the Democratic Party, but the Republican Party needs a complete change. They need to remove all the old politicians, kick them out of the party and replace it with much younger people who have a different vision. This Trump victory was a loud message, not that he is a good candidate but that the American people are fed up with those currently in office. A much younger generation needs to replace the current, old incumbents. Whichever party does this the fastest will have the best outlook in the next election.
 

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DNC could get a dark horse like this if she was ever interested:

http://www.beckershospitalreview.co...ngs-to-know-about-epic-and-judy-faulkner.html

Faulkner is the CEO of Epic systems. She's worth 2.5 billion. She's a STEM nut, a millennial friendly Green'ish leaning socialist that also runs a software company that rivals Microsoft. She's based out of Wisconsin, and runs the largest healthcare software company in the world with a ton of ties into that industry.
 

DrunkenSano

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The other problem is that a lot of smart, qualified people out there wouldn't want to stick their foot in the current muck that is our political system. Right now, those people may have amazing ideas and qualifications, but getting those ideas pushed through is a mess. Especially with the behind closed door deals and corruption that is in the current system.
 

hal2kilo

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They need to nominate an outsider with no political experience. Maybe another CEO. Trump vs Zuckerberg 2020, the showdown of a lifetime.
That's for sure. Actually, having a record of accomplishments in politics is the kiss of death.
 

ElFenix

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As a GenX'er, I'll be curious to see when we finally take over the majority in political power and what the landscape of politics looks like then.
Never. Boomers will continue to vote and once they start dying off all the millennials will have reached their participatory years.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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What about John Stewart as a younger Bernie? He's like a cheekier, socialist leaning version of Trump.

I was thinking the exact same thing on the way to work this morning. No that entertainers are qualified, why not? The right hates his guts, but to what? They also claim to hate Trump's guts but they still elected him.

Stewart could be like a Trump candidate but with a gooder brain and more better words and things.

The next option would be Bill Maher. Think about it: hates Islam and PC bullshit, pretty much dem/libertarian. Nasty, condescending attitude. Trump fans probably love the guy if he just sticks to the right points for them.
 

momeNt

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DNC - DO NOT blow your load on 2020 election.

Anybody you think is a strong candidate in 2020 just have them wait until 2024.

America is too smooth of a machine to not re-elect incumbents.

So if you want to feel better about yourself because your team won 2024 is the one that matters.
 

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I've been surprised at this point that we haven't seen a legitimate contender come from the health care industry. I'm not talking about Carlson or Bachman. They are loons. I'm talking about the CEO/President of a major health care system (multi-state, 30k-50k employee) kind of gig that comes in with a solid grasp on health care costs, business acumen and a vision on how to begin addressing spiraling health care costs.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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I don't know about leading, but Tulsi Gabbard needs to brought into the fold and given the chance to rise.

I liked her until I learned that she's kinda Pence-light when it comes to sociopathic policies re: abortion and women's health. At least, I think that was the issue. There was something very distasteful in there that make her a poor fit for liberals.