Sony DVD+RW for $347 AR - NEW INFO - MAY NOT WRITE DVD+R!

dimwit

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From gametalent at FW.

Dell Home has the Sony DRU110A/C1 2.4X/8X DVD+RW / 12X/10X/32X CD-RW Internal EIDE Combo Drive for $441.95. Use their coupon and rebate to get it for $347 Shipped Free. No tax in most states.
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NEW INFO FROM http://www.dvdwriters.co.uk/

DVD+RW Drives Will Not Burn DVD+R Disks! Posted Thursday, 7 February, 2002 by kila_m
If you bought a drive based on the format DVD+RW, then we have some bad news. The current DVD+RW drives (based on the + plus format) on the market will most likely NOT be able to burn DVD+R disks.

"beside Waitec also Philips wants for the first time to present on the CeBIT the once recordable DVD+R and thus the " format war " between DVD-RW and DVD+RW to decide.

The hook: Almost all at present available DVD+RW burners will probably not be able to burn DVD+R blanks. Ricoh, HP and other burner manufacturers took the appropriate specifications of their web pages and to refer to coming successors.

The problem is situated according to Philips in the too weak thermal performance of the laser. Contrary to the other manufacturers Philips's wants to bring out still at the end of of February a firmware update, which is to make the DVD+RW burners of Philips DVD+R able. The scanning rate is to be throttled thereby after HCIcP INFORMATION on single speed. However it is not certain whether the method functions. "

[ http://www.philips.de ]


 

wasssup

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first off, this is a dvd+rw drive, it doesn't burn dvd-r media...and the write once media for dvd+rw drives (ie. dvd+r media) isn't out yet, as far as I know...

Good price on a name brand DVD+RW drive though.
 

wasssup

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so what i mean is you can't "waste" any discs for now since write once media isn't out (stupid page kept timing out whenever i clicked edit)
 

gr8snakee

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DVD+r media has been released....will take some time to get over here. These +rw drives are not confirmed to write to DVD+r ...There is heavy speculation that they will be ready with nero software update or perhaps and more likely firmware update. The lid is being kept tight on this as these are first gen DVD+rw drives.


for more info ...check DVD PlusRW DOt Org


Reguardless this is a great price for these drives. My wife asked me to wait till my birthday to get one of these. 2nd gens are supposed to be showing up any time now.

Also Uncomfimmed are strong reports that even though +r Media is not Widely available it is however much more compatable with existing dvd set-top boxes.

Time will tell.

If you dont have the money wait.!!! If you do...then Dive In!.
 

JimboJones

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Have they decided on the standard yet? I know there was DVD-Ram, which I think got phased out, DVD+RW, and DVD-RW was another I believe.
 

dimwit

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DVD-R is more compatible with set top units than DVD+RW. Too soon to tell about DVD+R.

The "DVD Forum" decided on DVD-R. Sony and ??? decided to go their own way with DVD+RW, not sure why, speculation is that they did not want to pay royalties to the "DVD Forum" for DVD-R.
 

gr8snakee

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SOny , Yamaha, HP, Thompson-RCA, Phillips, Ricoh, to name a few are on the DVD+rw Bandwagon.
 

Chu

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From two posts above:

>>The "DVD Forum" decided on DVD-R. Sony and ??? decided to go their own way with DVD+RW, not sure why, >>speculation is that they did not want to pay royalties to the "DVD Forum" for DVD-R.

>>Sony , Yamaha, HP, Thompson-RCA, Phillips, Ricoh, to name a few are on the DVD+rw Bandwagon.

About the DVD Forum thingie, even though they endorse DVD-R as their standard, once phillips and sony are on the same side, isn't it game over, no matter what anyone else is doing?

-Chu
 

jeepers94

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The best thing about +RW,is that you do not have to erase the whole disc to rewrite.With -RW you do have to erase the whole disc!This makes +RW better for using to back up your programs,or using to edit your videos.Yes the +R media has been released.Also there will be new MULTI format drives,in the next couple of months.These drives handle -R,-RW and DVD-RAM.They do not support +RW.
 

gr8snakee

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<< there is a 15% Dell coupon to be had out there...[/qt


the 15% coupon is for business..doesnt work with the burner...tryed several times for humor:)

I am waitin for 2nd generation drives. will be out before you know it.
 

Coca-cola Bear

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Ya,
I personally like the DVD-R format more since I use the DVD-R media for video functions. DVD-R was based off the basic DVD video set and that is why it behaves like it does. Just like CD Media. DVD+RW has it's main advantage in data since, it can act like a floppy. Only problem is that it is not as compatible with video set top boxes. Oh and Pioneer and Pansonic are backing the DVD-R format. Another cool thing is a bunch of new Panasonic drives support DVD-RAM and DVD-R. I'm really looking in to this because DVD-RAM has the benefits of DVD+RW plus a capacity advantage while it is still able to run DVD-R for your video apps. Any hoo awesome price on the drive.
 

CyberGirl

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DVD+RW reportedly has better error correcting capabilities than DVD-RAM. At the end of the day though, how many of us use our CDRW drives to burn CDRW disks. CDRs are so cheap now, that I think that's what most people do. If it's data you know you want to keep, why not just use a 1c CDR for the job? Also, CDRs are compatible in everything including your car, just like DVD-R is compatible in 90% of set top boxes.
 

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I think some of you guys really need to read up on these formats before putting out some of the bad information that is showing up in this thread. For instance, the statement above that DVD+RW is "not as compatible with video set top boxes" is inaccurate. In fact, no matter which mode you choose (even the extended 3 or 4 hour), +RW is ALWAYS created as DVD-Video compatible and will therefore play in virtually all players. This is not the case with -RW, which can only create compatible discs up to 2 hours. Also, DVD-RAM will not work in any set-top players, with the exception of some of Panasonic's own newer models. And in the way of some added info. +RW will offer some unique features such as the ability to do partial over-writes of old recordings and they don't need to go through a finalization process when burning like -RW does in order to be compatible. All of this coupled with the fact as mentioned earlier that it is backed by such heavyweights as Sony, Philips, et al will lead to +RW winning the format war.
 

unsped

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i don't think its a matter of dvd-rw reading better than dvd+rw, but dvd-r playing better than dvd+rw. the RW tends to be less reflective, dvd-rw is a good deal less compatible than dvd-r ... I doubt most people use dvd-rw instead of dvd-r for videos (an option dvd+rw drives just don't have at the moment), and there is no news that dvd+rw will burn dvd+r, ive heard that hp will not offer it.

plus there is the issue of disc price, dvd-r will probably be leaps cheaper for at least a good while.

i hope dvd-r/w wins, I say poopoo to proprietary format. I wouldn't call sony a big name in the format war, there minidisc has really set fire in the states.

dvd-rw will clearly win I read it somewhere :)
 

Chu

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>>i hope dvd-r/w wins, I say poopoo to proprietary format. I wouldn't call sony a big name in the format war, there minidisc has really set fire in the states.

I was in Korea and Japan this summer, and minidisks are INCREDIBLY popular over there. Most people have a minidisk player and a CD player. The CD player they use . . . well . . . like a CD player. The minidisk player people use like a cassete player, especially since the higher end models have recording built in. Plus, people have been using them as MP3 players for much longer then MP3 players went mainstream here. The United States != The World, something more people need to keep in mind in this global economy . . .

-Chu
 

dimwit

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I wouldn't call sony a big name in the format war, there minidisc has really set fire in the

Just remember Sony is one who came out with the Betamax! Although it probably was a better format and more popular overseas than VHS, the American creed of "bigger must be better" did in Betamax.
 

unsped

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your right the US != world, however my local walmart doesn't have a big KOREON electronics department.
 

jeepers94

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Unsped,have you checked where most of WMarts electronics was made? Korea,Taiwan and Malasia.Not USA,nor Japan!
 

gtd2000

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Have any of you really checked where most of the stuff you buy anywhere in the USA is made now?

My mum came over to visit me (from the UK) - hell everything she bought had a little "Made in China" sticker on the bottom of it :(

I'm not complaining about China (Lived over there for 6 years) but there seems to be practically nothing to buy that is not sourced from over that way nowadays...

And yes ...I too have that trusty MD recorder :D