sony activation hell

[artemicion]

Sony's software and software policies are and have been abysmal.

No one jumping on the PS4 love-in seemed to remember this. All they could regurgitate was the extra 180 lines of resolution (something that subjectively adds nothing) and anti-MS sentiment (which was deserved, but the reaction was extreme).

Throw in 2 absolutely massive hacks in the last couple years, and it's a wonder people still defend them so blindly.

With that said, in about a decade, I'll own one to play Uncharted.

I don't think anyone "defends" Sony's security practices.

I do think most people don't care because hacks like that affect so few customers and, except for some rare cases, it's fairly painless to deal with (hell, in Sony's case I came out with a profit considering I got a free game out of it).

That said, if what's happening to OP is true, it's good to make a scene so Sony can change their practices regarding console activation.

Though I would say it sounds like OP's account credentials got stolen *somehow* and OP should probably get to the bottom of that:

-Was your password for PSN the same as your password for any other service?
-Did you share that password with anyone else? (e.g., sharing a Steam account, Blizzard/WoW account, Facebook account, etc., and that person could have used that info to try to log into your other accounts without your permission)
-Did you use that password for an account on a less-than-reputable website (use unique passwords for porn sites, son!)?
-Was your e-mail account compromised?
-Was your computer compromised?
-etc.

OP, until you definitively confirm what happened, I'd change all your passwords and maybe even wipe and do a clean install on all your computers.

 

[zerocool84]

This sounds unusual. I've disconnected and reconnected my PS3 to numerous monitors/TV's, numerous internet gateways, and never had this problem.

I don't think it's possible for the device to "re-register" itself based on moving the ps3. Perhaps this occurred while doing something else you weren't aware of?

It's possible, I honestly don't know what happened. But their system is broken if it allows a single device to re-register itself multiple times on a single account.

I've taken my PS3 to a friend's house and everything worked fine. I moved and everything booted up just like I never turned it off. Something else must have caused this. Someone else must have had your login.

 

[sweenish]

I don't think anyone "defends" Sony's security practices.

I do think most people don't care because hacks like that affect so few customers and, except for some rare cases, it's fairly painless to deal with (hell, in Sony's case I came out with a profit considering I got a free game out of it).

That said, if what's happening to OP is true, it's good to make a scene so Sony can change their practices regarding console activation.

Though I would say it sounds like OP's account credentials got stolen *somehow* and OP should probably get to the bottom of that:

-Was your password for PSN the same as your password for any other service?
-Did you share that password with anyone else? (e.g., sharing a Steam account, Blizzard/WoW account, Facebook account, etc., and that person could have used that info to try to log into your other accounts without your permission)
-Did you use that password for an account on a less-than-reputable website (use unique passwords for porn sites, son!)?
-Was your e-mail account compromised?
-Was your computer compromised?
-etc.

OP, until you definitively confirm what happened, I'd change all your passwords and maybe even wipe and do a clean install on all your computers.

I'm not speaking specifically to this case.

In general, Sony's software and software practices blow chunks. Have you ever had to update Eye of Judgment on PS3? Read up on that. There is also a very good reason Sony is the only console maker whose firmware updates get made fun of based on how long they take.

MGS4 install? That's as much on Konami as Sony simply because Sony allowed it.

The fact that Sony got massively hacked twice is a testament to how poor their practices are.

This specific case just highlights how awful their systems are, and how little they care you as a user/customer.

They're just lucky that their exclusive games are so good. The PS4 is still riding the PS2's coat-tails for goodwill.

 

[Fallen Kell]

They're just lucky that their exclusive games are so good. The PS4 is still riding the PS2's coat-tails for goodwill.

Well, that and their hardware plays the current-gen games better than the other consoles on the market...

 

[dabuddha]

I don't think anyone "defends" Sony's security practices.

I do think most people don't care because hacks like that affect so few customers and, except for some rare cases, it's fairly painless to deal with (hell, in Sony's case I came out with a profit considering I got a free game out of it).

That said, if what's happening to OP is true, it's good to make a scene so Sony can change their practices regarding console activation.

Though I would say it sounds like OP's account credentials got stolen *somehow* and OP should probably get to the bottom of that:

-Was your password for PSN the same as your password for any other service?
-Did you share that password with anyone else? (e.g., sharing a Steam account, Blizzard/WoW account, Facebook account, etc., and that person could have used that info to try to log into your other accounts without your permission)
-Did you use that password for an account on a less-than-reputable website (use unique passwords for porn sites, son!)?
-Was your e-mail account compromised?
-Was your computer compromised?
-etc.

OP, until you definitively confirm what happened, I'd change all your passwords and maybe even wipe and do a clean install on all your computers.

1) It's never been. I use a different format for my PS password than I do for my other stuff (banks/work stuff/etc)
2) Never shared my account. I'm the only one with a PS system out of my circle of friends
3) Never have
4) I can't say for sure but I haven't seen any signs of it happening. Plus I change my primary email address's password somewhat frequently (every 2 months or so if I remember to)
5) That I can say hasn't happened.

I did change my PSN password as soon as I saw the PS3s on there for what it's worth. One other thing to note (which I forgot to mention in the OP), I've had $32 in credit in my PSN wallet for the last 8 months or so. I got a refund on some crap my 2 year old ordered on my PS vita and the money has been sitting there. It's still untouched which makes me think it's not a hacked account and that it's a problem on their end

 

[dabuddha]

I'm not speaking specifically to this case.

In general, Sony's software and software practices blow chunks. Have you ever had to update Eye of Judgment on PS3? Read up on that. There is also a very good reason Sony is the only console maker whose firmware updates get made fun of based on how long they take.

MGS4 install? That's as much on Konami as Sony simply because Sony allowed it.

The fact that Sony got massively hacked twice is a testament to how poor their practices are.

This specific case just highlights how awful their systems are, and how little they care you as a user/customer.

They're just lucky that their exclusive games are so good. The PS4 is still riding the PS2's coat-tails for goodwill.

hah so true. Hell, I just got shadows of Mordor couple of nights ago and I went downstairs all excited to play it. 6 fucking hours to download/install it. Texted a picture of the download screen to my friend and his response, "I guess your not playing tonight." lol

 

[artemicion]

hah so true. Hell, I just got shadows of Mordor couple of nights ago and I went downstairs all excited to play it. 6 fucking hours to download/install it. Texted a picture of the download screen to my friend and his response, "I guess your not playing tonight." lol

6 hours to download and install a firmware update, or 6 hours to download and install Shadows of Mordor?

 

[dabuddha]

6 hours to download and install a firmware update, or 6 hours to download and install Shadows of Mordor?

Good point, 6 hours for shadows. But this was being installed from a physical disk

 

[mmntech]

hah so true. Hell, I just got shadows of Mordor couple of nights ago and I went downstairs all excited to play it. 6 fucking hours to download/install it. Texted a picture of the download screen to my friend and his response, "I guess your not playing tonight." lol

Dishonored took nearly three hours to download and install the other night. It's only 6 GB. For some reason, PSN is always super slow on my connection. Maybe 5-10mbps tops. Steam manages to max out my 25mbps pipe so I know it's not a connection issue.

The absolute worst part is once you finally get it installed, then it wants you to download all the patches. Why isn't the latest version just included with the initial download?

 

[dabuddha]

Dishonored took nearly three hours to download and install the other night. It's only 6 GB. For some reason, PSN is always super slow on my connection. Maybe 5-10mbps tops. Steam manages to max out my 25mbps pipe so I know it's not a connection issue.

The absolute worst part is once you finally get it installed, then it wants you to download all the patches. Why isn't the latest version just included with the initial download?

Yep definitely not a connection issue. Other servers/services I max out my connection with no problems. Just with them it crawls.